MightyHedgehog
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Man, those vids are difficult to watch because they're so damned dark. From what I could tell, the content is excellent, though. Hyped.
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Alan Wake - The First 12 Minutes (German)
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GillianSeed79
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Alright, so I saw this thread earlier in the week and concluded it was stupid bitching about resolution and sub-HD.
What about the giant elephant in the room no one is talking about? I honestly think this game looks great graphics wise and story wise, but the actual gameplay looks boring as all hell. What is impressive about this light/spotting enemies mechanic we've been shown? Again, story wise this looks great, but it's hard to get excited about the actual gameplay footage.
What about the giant elephant in the room no one is talking about? I honestly think this game looks great graphics wise and story wise, but the actual gameplay looks boring as all hell. What is impressive about this light/spotting enemies mechanic we've been shown? Again, story wise this looks great, but it's hard to get excited about the actual gameplay footage.
CadetMahoney
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Poimandres said:
Lots of games have rendered video? Unless the dev claimed it was realtime.Yasae said:
LordPhoque
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Spanish magazine reviewed the game, they gave it 9.3/10. According to them, graphics are amazing. They found it to be short, even if they say that it's 10-16h, which is great imo.
Relaxed Muscle
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LordPhoque said:
That magazine is awful and never to be trust in reviews, is like our Famitsu, but without all the things that made Famitsu worth.
Actually 10h is cool in my book, and they say some manuscript pages can only be found in the higher difficult levels, so replayability is not bad...
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
10 hour game length as a con :lol
10 hour is like double the length of an average action/adventure game these days. Oh well. They didn't sound too hot on exploration, that will probably vary depending on the player I guess.
10 hour is like double the length of an average action/adventure game these days. Oh well. They didn't sound too hot on exploration, that will probably vary depending on the player I guess.
nilam01 said:
This issue you mean? Sure
Lost Planet 2 (PS3, 360): 92
Monster Hunter Tri (Wii): 93
Alan Wake (360): 93
Grand Theft Auto IV: Episodes from Liberty City (PS3): 93
Splinter Cell Conviction (360): 90
Dead To Rights Retribution (PS3, 360): 80
FIFA World Cup 2010 (PS3, 360): 89
Super Street Fighter IV (PS3, 360): 95
Infinite Space (DS): 82
Fat Princess: Fistful of Cake (PSP): 87
Might and Magic: Clash of Heroes (DS): 90
Sam and Max: Season Two (Wii): 78
Nier (PS3, 360): 74
Way Of The Samurai 3 (PS3, 360): 64
Dead Or Alive Paradise (PSP): 55
Prison Break (PS3, 360): 60
Supreme Commander 2 (360): 77
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Though AW isn't a sandbox title (not anymore at least 
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The lack of replay incentive is a more worrying point from that review in comparison to the game length imo.
)The lack of replay incentive is a more worrying point from that review in comparison to the game length imo.
LordPhoque
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Jigsaw said:
I bet you didn't say the same thing when the lenght of UC2 or GOW3 was revealed.
And Yakuza/GTA IV are the perfect examples of long games filled with shitty and boring missions.
When I read this kind of post, I understand why the game is currently having 1.9/10 of userscore on metacritic :lol
Relaxed Muscle
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Pistolero said:
Then they already failed...., I doubt we'll have a game that will be able to top SH2 in those aspects in a long time....
10-16 hours is perfectly fine for the genre...It took me about the same time to finish RE4, of which every minute was a delight. Not to mention that this generation has lowered expectations of games' lenght so far.
Between some angry PC fans who can't forgive Remedy's decision and a couple of that other constructor's zealots who fear AW might rival their top tier games, there will be a LOT of harsh criticism. Of course, once the game comes out, consensus will prevail!
I hope this remark isn't directed at me, because comparing any game to SH2 is a fu***** compliment...
Between some angry PC fans who can't forgive Remedy's decision and a couple of that other constructor's zealots who fear AW might rival their top tier games, there will be a LOT of harsh criticism. Of course, once the game comes out, consensus will prevail!
I hope this remark isn't directed at me, because comparing any game to SH2 is a fu***** compliment...
Pistolero said:
It might be a closest thing but it is not an survival horror game. It doesn't try to create atmosphere of a Silent Hill so it's stupid to even compare them together. Remedy has proven that they can create great atmosphere with Max Payne games and I have full confidence that they have created great atmosphere for Alan Wake too.
Windom Earle
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The darkfalls (or whatever called) preview episodes look very cool. Even though David Lynch could sue them for straight out copying Twin Peaks :lol
Waiting for Xbl hd version though.
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But yeah, we shouldn't compare SH2 to AW too much I think, the games are just too different.
Edit: Yeah, 10 hours would be a bit disappointing. 2 hours per year, lolz.
Waiting for Xbl hd version though.
Relaxed Muscle said:
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But yeah, we shouldn't compare SH2 to AW too much I think, the games are just too different.
Edit: Yeah, 10 hours would be a bit disappointing. 2 hours per year, lolz.
Always-honest
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10 hours is long enough.
I think GoWIII took me around 9-10 hours which was perfect for me. And that was a game I enjoyed all the way through. Some games like SC Conviction were even shorter but I didn't really want to play them longer. (around 6 hours for Conviction)
Also I just noticed that the LE packaging is like a hardcover book. Could be pretty nice looking if it's done well. (have the LE preordered since it was cheap at Zavvi)
Also I just noticed that the LE packaging is like a hardcover book. Could be pretty nice looking if it's done well. (have the LE preordered since it was cheap at Zavvi)
I really hate this trend of having pre-rendered cutscenes and not having them real time. Cheapens the graphics for me so much. Yes, sometimes it works, but every single time? FFXIII and Uncharted 2 do this and it just screws my experience with the game.
On the other hand, I already have this pre-ordered. Should be a great ride
On the other hand, I already have this pre-ordered. Should be a great ride
REMEMBER CITADEL
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Pistolero said:
I don't think SH2 had a particularly good story. Great premise, sure, and some genuinely brilliant elements (Pyramid Head), but overall, it was quite cheesy and heavy-handed.
I preferred the atmosphere (and pretty much everything else but the story, which was even worse than in SH2) of SH3.
GillianSeed79 said:
You could take 5 minutes of footage from a lot of games and say it makes it look boring. But really, as I'm sure I've said before, Alan Wake is going to be one of those games where the whole experience, the journey from beginning to end, is what makes it special (I hope) rather than any individual element. I mean, GAF has a hard on for Silent Hill 2 but when you break everything down the gameplay elements like combat and puzzles aren't very good really, the love for the game comes from the story, atmosphere and overall experience.
Besides, the previews have suggested the combat is quite satisfying, but I don't think anyone is claiming that the combat is going to be what people remember once the game is over, really.
No,my comment wasn't aimed at you at all Pistolero. Comparing a game to SH2 from a story/atmosphere side is definitely not an insult.
I was just refering to the general nitpicking and negativity in this thread, which is pretty amazing.
Knowing Remedy I expect the gunplay to be pretty damn solid at least..personally, their games have been mostly memorable thanks to the mechanics. Max Payne 2 is still the most fun 3rd person shooter if you ask me.
I was just refering to the general nitpicking and negativity in this thread, which is pretty amazing.
Knowing Remedy I expect the gunplay to be pretty damn solid at least..personally, their games have been mostly memorable thanks to the mechanics. Max Payne 2 is still the most fun 3rd person shooter if you ask me.
Playing Uncharted 2 I didn't even realise they weren't real time. They're all done with the game engine anyway so there's no jarring difference between the cut scene and real time stuff. What difference does it make if the end result is the same? How does it 'cheapen' anything?
chandoog said:
What? Most action/adventure games fall in the 8-10 hour range. And these ones usually have multiplayer too. I said a lot of pages ago but I really hoped Alan Wake had a little more meat, considering its offline only aspect, its lowered resolution and the fact that it took five hundred years to come out. As my most anticipated 360 game, I am a little disappointed. Hoped it would come in at 15 hours or so. Not a game killer, as long as that content is packed with quality though.
Also, heads up: I am going to start cracking down on people who toss out troll accusations (NiGHT-). The mods will take care of legitimate trolls (like Jigsaw). I don't care to hear your opinion on who you think is a troll. If you think someone is breaking the rules, PM the mods. All your bitching and moaning ever serves to do is ACTUALLY kill threads.
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LordPhoque
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Reviewer says it's 10-16h. The truth probably lies in the middle. I except the game to be something like 12hours, which would be great if replayable.
Amir0x said:
Another reviewer has commented off the record that his final play time was 16:38 exploring the environments a bit, and this review could have been made on Easy for all we know since it's pretty early. I'm not saying some people won't be able to finish the game within 8 hours, just that this magazine is like the Spanish Famitsu, their reviews are pretty much PR bulletpoints strung together with some "cool! awesome!" and a few facts about the actual game.