AbandonedTrolley
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No and there is no real ETA yet. But it's being worked on
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Alienation |OT| They're coming outta the goddamn walls!
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No and there is no real ETA yet. But it's being worked on
Just asked them on Twitter, they are targeting next month: https://twitter.com/Housemarque/status/733626245448097793?s=09
Went back to my bio-specialist after playing my saboteur for a while... and I don't think I can go back to not having that mobility. She also seems to struggle with survivability at the same level in comparison to my saboteur and I'm not sure if that's because of the fact that I can easily zip in and zip out which the bio-specialist can't do at all.
And of course, I have no 12 slot legendaries on my saboteur with two on my bio-specialist. Really wish there was a shared vault!
And of course, I have no 12 slot legendaries on my saboteur with two on my bio-specialist. Really wish there was a shared vault!
It's probably tough to work out, since players aren't restricted to the same screen in the base game.
bagandscalpel
Member
Rolled a revolver with "shoot enemy: electric."
Was expecting a respectable AOE weapon, but the effect only randomly procs every now and then.
Rather disappointed.
Was expecting a respectable AOE weapon, but the effect only randomly procs every now and then.
Rather disappointed.
Crimson_Gold
Member
How high is your gear score?
bagandscalpel
Member
autoduelist
Member
I just got mine. First mission farming.
This is after doing the Ark about 10 times, because i thought that would increase my chances. Bah. Farmed the first mission 3 times tonight and scored.
Ark is much easier with 4 than 1 or 2, and obviously you want everyone high level if possible -- not just because they have more hp, but because they're more likely to have weapons that do 1mil+ to cut through stage 4 and 5 a bit faster.
I am 30/233 and just got my 12 slot. Yes, 30/233. I was done playing this f'ing character about 100 levels ago, at least... veteran is a joke, and the ark doesn't even get hard till basically the final battle due to my hit points and a gear power rating over 5mil.
And now I have hardcore to look forward too. If only i wasn't already burnt out.
Heh, reminds me of the time I and a roommate were gunning for the top 10 of Co-Op in Superstardust HD. It required making near zero mistakes while playing for several hours straight. Fuck up during the first hour and you might as well start over...
Hard cap at 30 with Hero levels having zero effect on the scaling. Ark Ship -ready characters are, or at least shoud be, totally OP even on Veteran as you quickly pass to much higher levels in the Ark Ship. Lv 50 fodder enemies on the last floor are no joke.
That's the only way to play SS!
Yea, Ark stage 5 much more manageable once you've got an 11ish slot primary and/or secondary. My 11 slot revolver is dope.
There is absolutely nothing random about it proccing. All of the shoot enemy procs are timer based (they even seem to share the timer, so you can't exploit it by weapon switching). After X amount of time, your next shot *will* have the proc effect.
The Lightning is actually more of a heavy killer feature. Boomerang is the horde-killer with massive AoE, but with far less damage on the primary target. See my earlier post on the matter
Pestilence11
Member
Got a saboteur and tank both to 30/50+ but struggling with boredom on the bio-specialist at around level 15. Hopefully new content/modes come out soon.
autoduelist
Member
Anyone have tips on how to best survive hardcore mode? I just did the first stage twice and am level 4... don't think i was hit a single time. While I don't mind going deeper to get more experience, i don't want to accidentally lose a level 20 character either.
would having a friend in world 1 that's high level work? like, coop with them, try to stay safe and try to get high level weapon drops?
would having a friend in world 1 that's high level work? like, coop with them, try to stay safe and try to get high level weapon drops?
bagandscalpel
Member
Ah, thanks for the info and your research.
I could only base my own observation by comparing the "shoot enemy" to "melee enemy" perks. The latter of which seemed to activate on every first hit, which caused me to look unfairly upon the first.
Strangelove77
Member
How's the loot for this game? Decent amount?
I'm a sucker for loot and a good long end game.
I'm a sucker for loot and a good long end game.
The game rains loot on you, but right now it lacks diversity - same goes for the end game content. Housemarque are usually very good in supporting their games post launch, but if you don't feel you'll get your money's worth unless you can keep going at the end game it might be worth holding off.
Personally I've more than got my money's worth. I think I've played 50+ hours already (levelling all three classes to 30+) and there's still HC to go as well as trying to max out weapon slots in each - it's just tough to motivate myself to play the same content over and over.
It also sucks that I've had the best drops on the character I find least fun to play.
Personally I've more than got my money's worth. I think I've played 50+ hours already (levelling all three classes to 30+) and there's still HC to go as well as trying to max out weapon slots in each - it's just tough to motivate myself to play the same content over and over.
It also sucks that I've had the best drops on the character I find least fun to play.
Are you guys finding people to co-op with?
Ever since the update I am rarely finding anyone running missions. Maybe the player base has shrunk, but when I see anyone it is only on the first mission of any of the first areas and never on the later levels. And I have hardly had someone join me.
Ever since the update I am rarely finding anyone running missions. Maybe the player base has shrunk, but when I see anyone it is only on the first mission of any of the first areas and never on the later levels. And I have hardly had someone join me.
AbandonedTrolley
Member
Ok so here's the thing with Hardcore, when I was doing (only for the trophy because I hate the idea of losing everything on death in this game) I did the following:
1) Bio-Engineer class. The recovery options are second only to the Tank and the Bio has a much better primary than the tank.
2) Start on Professional until level ~8, jump to Veteran if you can handle it especially when you know you'll level up in the next run.
3) If your weapons aren't basically one shotting enemies drop difficulty. You can abort a mission and restart it on a lower difficulty.
4) If you can stand repetition just run the first mission until level 30. You never get the world level increases which add scarier enemies (Sentinels, FUCK those guys) and the +1 to global levels with each bump. The loot will take longer to get good but the enemies will never present a threat until bosses start showing up with three abilities. If possible skip bosses with Buglord, Shield, Regenerate. Unless you get the drop on them with a high powered Rocket Launcher these guys are super scary. Bugs are a meat shield, their shield is basically indestructible, and they regenerate. Fuck that.
It took me 12 hours of farming level 1 doing the above but I got the trophy.
If you want to cheese it apparently you can back up your save and restore it if you die. I didn't know about this until after I had done my thing though.
bagandscalpel
Member
It's not; unfortunately there's really no incentive to farm any other level for gear other than Alaska-1 because it's so short.
Yeah, I tried to find some games the other day, and nothing.
So people are just running this mission - getting the three chests and completing the objectives or also going for the events? The end game is not good, which is a shame as I absolutely adore the gameplay.
Pestilence11
Member
That's what I was doing before I got bored and quit playing. There's really no reason to replay any other mission, besides the objective things to kill 20 whatever, but that's very little incentive.
AbandonedTrolley
Member
Got caught in the scenery last night, bang goes my lvl 22 tank on Hardcore
gutterboy44
Member
They should make the later missions have a higher drop rate and XP buff. More people would play the harder missions if it meant more rewards.
Yeah, that would be a start. I often run Nebraska-3 because it starts at one extreme of the map and has a good enemy variety (for the UNX assignments) so it's easy to sweep across the map (and you can easily call in the evac with your 3 chests) - two of my characters almost trivialise the content so I kind of enjoy gathering huge followings of the harder enemies.
autoduelist
Member
So... I got the hardcore trophy the other night, and here are my trophy tips:
1) Stay on Alaska 1-1. I had no problem doing veteran the entire time (over double the experience speeds things up). If your gun gets a few levels behind, then yeah, drop to professional or rookie.
You won't get -- sentinels, leapers, flamers, etc. which ups survivability a lot.
2) If you go in a group of 4, you'll get a ton more experience [faster leveling] but you -must- stay together. Get separated and a sudden hoard or whatever will slaughter you... the extra hp enemies have in coop is dangerous.
3) The game -will- start to feel more difficult in the mid and late 20s, especially if your gun is underpowered. I got lucky and a guy who was 30/50+ joined me and basically escorted my character from 26 through 30. [thanks!]
I saw a lot of mid-20 characters join my game and die... thankfully i'm good at dual stick shooters and survived where they didn't.
4) You get a lot of bonus experience for finishing a level, so the best way to farm exp is to finish 1-1 as fast as possible, only stopping for obvious bosses/lewt but not searching the map for them.
5) Bio-specialist. All the way. Healing is essential.
6) Personally, I prefer being host to ensure speed runs for best experience gain, but if you find a good host, that's just as good.
AND....
the best part... once you're level 30, you can now quickly and easily play through the game on rookie and get the 'beat game w/ bio specialist trophy'. I never even came close to dying.
Now I'm just leisurely playing through with a Tank for the plat with a saved 30/something HC and a seriously OP 30/233 saboteur ready for any DLC.
1) Stay on Alaska 1-1. I had no problem doing veteran the entire time (over double the experience speeds things up). If your gun gets a few levels behind, then yeah, drop to professional or rookie.
You won't get -- sentinels, leapers, flamers, etc. which ups survivability a lot.
2) If you go in a group of 4, you'll get a ton more experience [faster leveling] but you -must- stay together. Get separated and a sudden hoard or whatever will slaughter you... the extra hp enemies have in coop is dangerous.
3) The game -will- start to feel more difficult in the mid and late 20s, especially if your gun is underpowered. I got lucky and a guy who was 30/50+ joined me and basically escorted my character from 26 through 30. [thanks!]
I saw a lot of mid-20 characters join my game and die... thankfully i'm good at dual stick shooters and survived where they didn't.
4) You get a lot of bonus experience for finishing a level, so the best way to farm exp is to finish 1-1 as fast as possible, only stopping for obvious bosses/lewt but not searching the map for them.
5) Bio-specialist. All the way. Healing is essential.
6) Personally, I prefer being host to ensure speed runs for best experience gain, but if you find a good host, that's just as good.
AND....
the best part... once you're level 30, you can now quickly and easily play through the game on rookie and get the 'beat game w/ bio specialist trophy'. I never even came close to dying.
Now I'm just leisurely playing through with a Tank for the plat with a saved 30/something HC and a seriously OP 30/233 saboteur ready for any DLC.
Still hunting for that 12 slot legendary. It's all I need for the platinum. My play sessions have to be solo (I have a 6-month old so I need to be able to drop whatever I'm doing) so I run Alaska-1 until I get 10 UFO keys, burn 9 of them (saving one so I can join others if I feel the need to) and repeat. I've snagged 11 slot legendaries in every slot but I can't get a 12 slot one to drop at all. I'm a 30/103 tank and still getting no RNG love.
If they do make harder missions more rewarding (better loot) then I'd absolutely change farming locations. I don't even bother with the objectives anymore because I don't need the cores. I'd run the Ark but I don't know how much time to block off and don't really want to run solo.
If they do make harder missions more rewarding (better loot) then I'd absolutely change farming locations. I don't even bother with the objectives anymore because I don't need the cores. I'd run the Ark but I don't know how much time to block off and don't really want to run solo.
John Rabbit
Banned
My first super close call on HC veteran. The level where you first discover the force field then have to run away from the mortar fire? Thought I'd play it smart and clear my way down to the evac point (which works, by the way, the run down there was empty) but the fucking ambush I got there was insane. Both a goliath and a brute, multiple flamers and of course all of the phasing mutants and dragoons/seekers.
Not a happy sight seeing second wind proc on HC! D:
Not a happy sight seeing second wind proc on HC! D:
Yes, probably. But they should've had this in mind since start of designing the game.
To implement it afterwards is obviously quite difficult.
Eurogamer has a feature on the future (and past) of Housemarque.
I made a thread for it here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1225165
I made a thread for it here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1225165
Just completed "Into Dark Places", on HC veteran (one of the missions I was really worried about - though this is the first time I realised that you didn't actually have to rush out after setting it off). Soon I'm going to need to make the decision of whether I'm brave enough to move into world 2...
So apparently I am... wish me luck! D:
30.
You can continue to level up your "Hero Level" after that, although that wont give you skill points.
sorry I meant the hero level system, I heard 250. Is this right ?
ExitPlanetDust
Member
I just got my weekly email from Play-Asia and it looks like Alienation will be getting a physical release on June 20th... Possibly just in Asia though: http://www.play-asia.com/from-dead-nation-to-alienation-physical-release-june/5f/747s1
Yep at HL 250 you'll have the maximum HP your class offers.
I managed to beat world level 2 on HC (Rookie) I'm not brave enough for Veteran on HC.
I spent maybe 6 more hours trying for a 12 slot legendary only to end in failure. I figure I'll limit myself to an hour a night trying since it's all I need for the platinum.
dreamstation
Gold Member
Has there been any news on the local co-op patch and when it's coming?
gotstrangepowers
Banned
dreamstation
Gold Member
Thanks for that. Hopefully they get it out this month as I've put it on hold until they do. I finished world 2 with my tank and have about 110 hero levels but want to level the other classes with my partner. Don't want to burn myself out before they add it.
Crimson_Gold
Member
I need news on expansions/DLC