Gumbie
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Some people are already running Titans in their X51s
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4GcD5UjBZ-o
Edit: Nevermind just noticed he's using an external power supply.
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Alienware X51 thread of 2.56TFLOPS comfy couch gaming at 180W in a console size box
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Some people are already running Titans in their X51s
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4GcD5UjBZ-o
Edit: Nevermind just noticed he's using an external power supply.
Why not just build a small form factor PC?
You're essentially abandoning every reason to get one of these in the first place with your proposed modifications. Might as well step up to a proper CPU/motherboard so you can OC that as well.
diffusionx
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I would just buy a different case and build one from scratch.
diffusionx
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I upgraded from a GTX 555 to a 660ti. The 3Dmark score more than doubled. It also made a lot more games playable at 1080p. I feel like it kind of unlocked this computer's potential.
Apocryphon
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I'd consider the 670@ £288 - http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00829L3W0/
For the stereoscopic 3D in the Occulus to run at 60fps effective, your games will need to be running games at 120fps, so the more power you have available the better.
EDIT: Or not. I'm not actually sure you would need 120fps. Maybe just 1280 x 800 @ 60fps is all you need to render, even in 3D!?
Hmm, yeah I just looked at the 3Dmark benchmarks and the difference is pretty big even to the 660. 660ti and 670 are even more impressive.
Yeah it just uses a single 1280x800 frame so you can get away with 60fps. Unlike active shutter glasses where you'd alternate between a full-res left eye and full-res right eye image @ 120fps. Still, would be nice to beef it up a bit.
That card is certainly tempting, not sure if I want to spend that much but I'd certainly consider it now that I'm not a student.
Chittagong
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Oh man, I love FreshyDeff, only he would be crazy enough to try a Titan in the X51.
He's a really sweet guy who loves to tinker with PC parts. In fact, he's the main reason why this thread even exists. When I modded my X51 it wasn't clear at all that a 7870 would run in it. He made the first video showing it does, that clip gave me confidence to buy one. It was really hard to angle it in, so I commented on one of his videos and he was nice enough to make a tutorial video for me on how to angle it in, he even calls me out on it. Super nice guy. No idea how he funds all the kit he orders.
I was pissing myself watching his Titan video - running a second massive PSU just for the Titan, then kicking Fan #2 out altogether to make space for the card (it's a shit fan that does little for cooling but is solely responsible for the 'jet engine effect' in a stock X51 anyway), yet the system still somehow sounding like a hoover, all shot in portrait mode, incredible, haha.
Well 120Hz in a normal 3D shutter glass scenario is just to accommodate the extra frame needed every second. So you're still only effectively getting 60Hz in your average 3D gaming setup, unless you've got a 240Hz monitor and run in 3D on that. Which I've never tried; probably looks awesome but sounds expensive. But it would be nice to have 120Hz OR though.
Chittagong
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Chittagong, I sense a strong modder's heart in you. Before long, you'll be doing this:
Good lord, what is that
If it wasn't for aesthetic and noise I would be there right now, which is sad considering the X51 is pretty ugly and not whisper quiet either
Can't handle 60?
Understandable, now that I can't handle 30 after only a few months of pure 60Hz
The whole point of watercooled builds is that you can spin 120mm fans under 1000RPM to have a basically silent PC. Sure, you get a bit more OC headroom, but it's more about reducing noise.
Here's the case in question.
Here's the case in question.
yodathesoda
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I ordered my X51 from Amazon and they sent me an Aurora R4 by accident for the same price. Other than the massive size of this thing in terms of price paid I should be happy yes?
lol, what specs did you get in the Aurora R4?
Definitely. You got a spec upgrade for free.
yodathesoda
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i7-3820
16 gigs of Ram
GTX 660
2TB Harddrive
All good for 899.00 but god damn this thing weighs a ton.
Got damn.
Deal of the century right there. You certainly can not build a 3820 + 660 PC for $900.
What kind of cooler on it? Could you take a pic of the motherboard area?
ShinobiFist
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Dude, thats a fucking steal, keep that shit. And you can upgrade the GPU with no hassle.
On that Titan Vid. How the fuck did he run a different power supply on that X51 for that Titan? Very curious about that.
Chittagong
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It seems like he runs a second PSU directly to the video card, he seems to have a small opening for the cable to run out from the back to the ginormous PSU with fan you see behind the unit. So instead of drawing the X51 mobo for power, he runs the video card with a separate PSU. This is pretty a clever way to overcome the power requirement without using an unsanctioned PSU directly with the X51. Of course it negates the whole idea of a X51. I will be interested to see whether heat becomes an issue.
I was gonna buy this but after adding a blu ray drive, office premium and a monitor i'm looking at spending over $1,800.00. i was going to go with the Dell 24" ultrasharp and that is over $500. Any other good deals on a 24" monitor that anyone knows of. i guess i could always just play downstairs on the plasma and get a monitor at a later time. Either way I'm spending at least $1200 on this.
Here you go:
I'd add the ASUS VG248QE as the best 24" monitor to buy at the moment.
And what the hell does TN, VA, e-IPS, IPS, and PVA mean?
[BUDGET]
$150 - ASUS VS229H-P
And any $100-$120 monitor that has decent reviews and is not an lesser brand. Many of the higher monitors also go on steep discounts.
[STANDARD]$170 - ASUS VH236H . . . . .
$185 - ASUS VS247H-P . .
$185 - ASUS VS239H-P
[ENHANCED]$250 - ASUS VG23AH . . . . .
$300 - Dell U2412M (16:10, no 1:1 scaling)
ASUS VG23AH if you don't wear glasses or glasses with any sort of filters/polarizers. It might be IPS/PLS but it has the best 60hz performance of ANY monitor on the market and can be driven to run at 72hz or 75hz with this program and these settings. Go for the Dell if you want 16:10 and super crisp colors.
[120Hz]$250 - ASUS VG236H . . . . .
$400 - BenQ XL2420T . .
$250-400 Samsung S23A700/750D
120hz monitors can be hard to find right now, possibly due to an upcoming refresh from ASUS and Samsung. 700D has dual link DVI only for 120Hz, 750D has displayport only. BenQ has the worst colors of the three, but a matte screen and a great stand.
[2560x1440 IPS]
~$500 Crossover 27Q LED-P
$800 - Viewsonic VP2770-LED
Crossover is available through Ebay, pixel perfect versions come at a premium. It has the same panel as the Apple Cinema Display. The VP2770 has a lower input lag at 7ms. Both are 1440p.
I'd add the ASUS VG248QE as the best 24" monitor to buy at the moment.
Soyongdori
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Is there any deal going on for X51?
Raitosaito
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1000 up gets 250 off instantly and get another 50 with this code DT5MVGF4411B0P
whitemex88
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http://www.logicbuy.com/deals/dell-xps-desktop-bundle/41876.aspx
I was wondering what you guys thought of this deal. I need a new monitor and this one is good size and a great value.(FREE) obviously the graphics card is no good but at that price its easily upgradable.
I was wondering what you guys thought of this deal. I need a new monitor and this one is good size and a great value.(FREE) obviously the graphics card is no good but at that price its easily upgradable.
Soyongdori
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Do you know when the promotion expires plus the code?
Raitosaito
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Not sure. Just tried it and it works. Guessing sometime next week?
Soyongdori
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LOL, tried the coupon but with the "promotion" + coupon, the price is exactly the same as initial pricing. I'm not sure but I don't think that promotion is going through for me.
I stopped buying console games about a year or so ago due to the graphics falling so far behind their PC counter-parts, was hoping just to hold off until the next gen systems but it's now looking like I'll be missing too many great games so want to get something to tide me over.
Thinking of picking up the current middle spec system (i5/8gb/GTX660) - Any idea how this will handle Bioshock Infinite (also X-Com and Dota2)? Or will the performance not really be much better than if I just gritted my teeth and picked up the console versions.
Thanks in advance!
Thinking of picking up the current middle spec system (i5/8gb/GTX660) - Any idea how this will handle Bioshock Infinite (also X-Com and Dota2)? Or will the performance not really be much better than if I just gritted my teeth and picked up the console versions.
Thanks in advance!
Chittagong
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I have had literally zero issues with Windows 8. Zero. Also I find the metro UI great for sofa use. Creating tiles is more hassle than it needs to be, but considering that most online opinions lead you to believe W8 gives you cancer at the very least, it's not too shabby.
liquidfox00
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I'll second this. I haven't had any compatibility issues with windows 8. I have the i7/660/8gigs model and it's been fairly smooth sailing besides my complete PC noobiness when it comes to certain things. I couldn't be happier with this little system.
I do think i'm going to upgrade the 660 to a 670ftw in the near future though. I bought this for couch gaming and it complements my 360 very well. I basically use the 360 for COD with friends and the x51 for everything else. I'm also pretty sure that Steam sales, GMG and other sites have saved me probably close to $500 since I bought the system last December on games that I would have bought anyway for the 360.
Highly recommended if you're just getting into PC gaming.
If you buy the receiver afaik they'll work fine.
Edit - Despite what Amazon say the reviews are reporting that the receiver isn't official, bummer.
You need the wireless dongle and they don't sell it separately any more. You might be able to find one if you look around.
what about this?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0076GYM50/?tag=neogaf0e-20
edit: beaten by kharma. thanks!
AHA-Lambda
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000HZFCT2/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Has better reviews although apparently isn't official.
He's American.
Marty Chinn
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Just beware of third party ones like this; it doesn't use the standard driver so you'll have to install their version even though it will all be compatible. Thus, make sure you keep a copy of that install around in case you ever need to reinstall.
Get someone from PC GAF to build it for you or help you build one.
The other SFF PC's out there have either really strange specs or are really overpriced.
Here are pics of the most popular SFF cases.
Fractal Node 304:
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Silverstone FT03 Mini:
BitFenix Prodigy
Silverstone SG05:
Some new high end ones, first is a TripT CC Compact Splash, second is the CaseLabs Mercury S3
Wait people in the PC Gaf threads are building PCs for fellow gaffers now ?
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