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[Shauni]

It stacks , so you can add to a current sub. Best bet is to sign up for a trial on xbox or ps4 , if i recall they are giving you two months free. In that time you can start picking up points and just add to the current sub

Oh, it's not a free thing? Okay, well, I'll have to look into it.

 

[Skilletor]

Does this mean I can watch Walking Dead weekly instead of waiting for it to be put up on Netflix by season?

 

[TheSeks]

In which AMC seriously underestimates how incredibly important Netflix was to the success of Breaking Bad, Mad Men, and The Walking Dead

Making it exclusive is really the problem. It should be available on both, hell all video-on-demand services day-of.

 

[Shauni]

Does this mean I can watch Walking Dead weekly instead of waiting for it to be put up on Netflix by season?

One would assume so, yes

 

[systematic]

What i wonder is if they'll only upload them before the new season begins or shortly after airing. Hulu is different than netflix in that they post episodes shortly after airing.

If it's anything like the deal they signed with FX and Turner, it won't be shortly after airing:

It’s worth noting Turner retains in-season stacking rights to the shows, which will remain available to pay-TV subscribers via on-demand, on Turner’s sites and through TV Everywhere services with cable, satellite and telco TV providers before they go to Hulu.

The ability to "stack" is pretty much the reason certain networks are going with Hulu instead of Netflix:

Studios, however, are balking — at least for now — at letting networks pile up all episodes of a season on streaming and VOD, or “stacking,” as it's called in the industry. Studio execs say Netflix has made it clear that it will pay significantly less for streaming rights to stacked shows. This, even though the networks say they only want to stack current seasons of a show for a window that wouldn't even overlap with when Netflix takes it over. (FX, for instance, is looking to run a season online and on VOD until 30 days after the finale.) These executives say Netflix brass have said they believe that any expanded online exposure of a season makes it less special when it finally goes live with them. Last month, the streaming giant's chief content officer Ted Sarandos all but confirmed this to The Wall Street Journal, saying, "The less exploited shows are through on-demand services, the more valuable they are to us." The amount Netflix penalizes producers for stacked shows varies widely: In some cases, it might go as high as only paying half as much as it otherwise would for a show that's been stacked, but one person familiar with Netflix deals says that the penalty is frequently about 20 percent per episode. That means if a thirteen-episode unstacked drama fetches $500,000 per episode from Netflix, a studio could lose out on $1.3 million for the season in Netflix revenue if the network is given full-season streaming and VOD rights. A studio exec who has previously worked on the network side was incredulous at the FX/TNT demands: "Why would we do a show with them when we're limiting our upside?" he says.

FX, Turner, and Netflix Face Off in a Battle of the Binge

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

In which AMC seriously underestimates how incredibly important Netflix was to the success of Breaking Bad, Mad Men, and The Walking Dead

They are both services that do exactly the same thing. Hulu has been bleeding for a long time, even with Hulu Plus. I see no problem with this deal.

 

[fixedpoint]

dunno man. Hulu has lots of currently airing shows right? That's the appeal. If you pay for cable TV you pay Comcast or whoever and also see ads.

Netflix seems to be losing it's luster. I bet the content providers weren't happy with how much power they were getting.

It's worth noting that NBCUniversal, one of the three partners behind Hulu, is 100% owned by Comcast. Which is one of the reasons Hulu will likely never be a competitive streaming option.

 

[WaffleTaco]

Why am I paying to have my show interrupted by advertisements for things I probably don't need? It also doesn't help that you'd sometimes see the same ad 2-3 times an episode, at least from the few times I used Hulu.

Because you are probably watching shows that are currently on the air at the moment, which is completely different from Netflix which puts shows up almost a year later. If it's older shows than they should have less ads in my opinion and I agree that a greater variety of ads would be a lot better.

 

[Mammoth Jones]

As long as Hulu still put ads in the content I'm paying a monthly fee for it won't matter. I'll never re-subscribe.

I'll just have to cope with Netflix and their great original content.

 

[Shauni]

If it's anything like the deal they signed with FX and Turner, it won't be shortly after airing:



The ability to "stack" is pretty much the reason certain networks are going with Hulu instead of Netflix:


FX, Turner, and Netflix Face Off in a Battle of the Binge

Ah, I spoke too soon I guess. Well that is kind of disappointing then, if they aren't going to be like other shows and come out directly after airing.

 

[joe2187]

Oh, it's not a free thing? Okay, well, I'll have to look into it.

No. BING Rewards is free.

if you have an Xbox account you can signup for Bing rewards no issue. Basically BING rewards gives you points to for using it's search engine.

you can redeem these points for giftcards and enter contests and shit.

Im interested inthe automated program that the other guy was talking about so I dont have to manually search everyday.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

Hulu Plus needs to trash ads on all non-new material. Fine, put ads on next-day material, but if it's been up for like 6 months just don't run ads.

 

[16BitNova]

Awesome. Keep bringing the awesome to Hulu. Also, I can't really understand the hate of "ads" on Hulu. It's literally like 30 seconds at most. Sometimes less. Really you anger yourselves over 30 seconds? It's likely thanks to these ads that Hulu is so cheap and getting good content.

 

[ryseing]

That simply means I won't be watching any AMC shows.

AMC's golden age is over anyway if you don't like TWD (camp I'm in).

Turn sucks and Halt and Catch Fire, while interesting, is incredibly niche.

Where has mid 00's AMC gone .

 

[Shauni]

No. BING Rewards is free.

if you have an Xbox account you can signup for Bing rewards no issue. Basically BING rewards gives you points to for using it's search engine.

you can redeem these points for giftcards and enter contests and shit.

Im interested inthe automated program that the other guy was talking about so I dont have to manually search everyday.

Oh, okay, cool. I'll do that then. Glad I saw this, if it means I can basically get Hulu Plus free from time to time, great score.

 

[Tobor]

If it's anything like the deal they signed with FX and Turner, it won't be shortly after airing:



The ability to "stack" is pretty much the reason certain networks are going with Hulu instead of Netflix:


FX, Turner, and Netflix Face Off in a Battle of the Binge

You didn't read that correctly. Stacking is about being able to keep an entire season available on VOD or Hulu rather than the last 5 episodes. When the episodes debut on streaming isn't impacted.

Ah, I spoke too soon I guess. Well that is kind of disappointing then, if they aren't going to be like other shows and come out directly after airing.

It's going to be like other shows. Better, in that Hulu will be able to keep the entire season up.

 

[dork]

Hulu? Fuck that. When i found out they still play ads when you pay for it, I was like 'nope.

same

 

[Shauni]

AMC's golden age is over anyway if you don't like TWD (camp I'm in).

Turn sucks and Halt and Catch Fire, while interesting, is incredibly niche.

Where has mid 00's AMC gone .

What? You thought Mad Men's End of an Era tagline was just for the show? Nah man, it's taking the whole network with it.

 

[badblue]

Well I guess I'll be waiting for the DVDs then... Because torrenting would be illegal.

Would be nice if Canada would get some streaming love too.

 

[bonesmccoy]

Streaming rights deals are different from country to country, so I don't see this impacting Netflix Canada etc getting future AMC shows.

Though that just means they'll end up on Crave or Shomi.

 

[n0razi]

I don't like this future where I'm going to need to sign up for a bunch of different audio and video streaming services to get access to everything I want to watch/listen to.

its pretty much the same deal gamers have to deal with.. ie if you want to play mario, halo, and uncharted...

 

[Bobby Roberts]

As long as they still have ads with their paid subs, I'm not using it. I don't care what shows they get.

This is my stance as well.

 

[Shauni]

It's going to be like other shows. Better, in that Hulu will be able to keep the entire season up.

Oh well, good then.

 

[Ultima_5]

i like hulu. it lets me watch the daily show.

the fact it has ads needs to stop though. atleast just do small banner ads randomly instead of 2/3 commerical breaks and episode

 

[Mortemis]

What? You thought Mad Men's End of an Era tagline was just for the show? Nah man, it's taking the whole network with it.

After I stopped watching TWD a few seasons ago, BB ended, all I watched from them was mad men.

Now that its ending I don't really care for AMC shows tbh, this deal doesn't bother me much.

 

[wenis]

After May 17th, what shows?

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

Well, honestly, to compare:

Hulu:

• An increasing number of shows I wanna watch
• Fucking Ads constantly
• $10 a month on top of internet fee

Cable:

• A decreasing number of shows I wanna watch
• Fucking Ads constantly
• $60 a month on top of internet fee

That's about the only justification I use

 

[Captain.Falafel]

After May 17th, what shows?

Exactly what I was wondering. Maybe they aren't feeling too optimistic about their coming exclusives and wanted to cash in as best they could?

 

[Calamari41]

Awesome. Keep bringing the awesome to Hulu. Also, I can't really understand the hate of "ads" on Hulu. It's literally like 30 seconds at most. Sometimes less. Really you anger yourselves over 30 seconds? It's likely thanks to these ads that Hulu is so cheap and getting good content.

30 seconds per episode? Per individual commercial break?

Maybe when you're just starting a series. Once you're a bunch of episodes in, you'll be hit with closer to ten minutes of commercials over the course of a show. I am, at least.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

I only use Hulu for new episodes of Flash and Arrow. Maybe I should cancel.

 

[Enduin]

After May 17th, what shows?

At this time just Halt and Catch Fire S2 has a released date end of May, but Fear the Walking Dead comes out this summer and Humans is debuting sometime in June. Plus the final season of Hell on Wheels is also sometime this summer. Then there's Into the Badlands, whenever that premiers maybe in the fall, and the original TWD in the fall as usual.

I think they're still going ahead with Preacher so that'll probably come out next year and I'm sure they have a bunch of other unannounced projects going on as well like most networks do.

 

[gdt]

Not like AMC has any hotness coming up anyway.

 

[Tabris]

The internet streaming space is really annoying due to so many split content between all the different services.

I wonder if these companies are doing this on purpose and are being funded by cable companies to do this.

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

Lord I hate Hulu.

I haven't watched anything on AMC since BB so I doubt Ill be missing anything.

 

[bishoptl]

Well...good luck with that, AMC.

 

[NastyBook]

Guess I should go ahead and finish Breaking Bad before it expires early or something.

 

[Omegasquash]

I think they didn't think this one through.

 

[Kaladin]

Fuck Hulu and thier shitty ads.

Would much rather have Hulu's 90 second commercial breaks over broadcast TV's 5 minute breaks.

 

[Fury451]

Does this mean I can watch Walking Dead weekly instead of waiting for it to be put up on Netflix by season?

Most likely, which is the only positive.

Otherwise you're still dealing with ads like any normal broadcast situation, though they are shorter.

I don't like the idea of it being completely Hulu exclusive though- Netflix by season and Hulu weekly would be fine, but it's a competitive business. I don't really see this working out too well, but we shall see.

 

[Man]

Well...good luck with that, AMC.

.

 

[bigkrev]

It makes sense for the different Streaming companies to try and differentiate themselves. Netflix does it through original series, Amazon does it by including music, books, and shipping in their service (The HBO catalog was also a selling point before HBONOW), and Hulu is going to try and get their hands on any TV show it can.

This isn't going to change. This is the a la carte future.

 

[Xav]

I live in the UK. What's Hulu?

 

[Cybit]

I'm fine with this; Hulu's existence means that the networks won't screw Netflix by simply refusing to add new content to any streaming service until Netflix bleeds out of existence. The networks still have the nuclear option of just all making their own VOD service ala CBS and crushing Netflix in the process.

Hulu will easily make its money back; and IIRC almost all of the hulu stuff is also on the website for free - I got Hulu Plus only because it lets me watch stuff on my xbox / iPad.

 

[E the Shaggy]

If you still get ads with Hulu plus, what exactly are you paying for? Just a bigger library?

 

[Husker86]

No. BING Rewards is free.

if you have an Xbox account you can signup for Bing rewards no issue. Basically BING rewards gives you points to for using it's search engine.

you can redeem these points for giftcards and enter contests and shit.

Im interested inthe automated program that the other guy was talking about so I dont have to manually search everyday.

I use YABRB on Android. Never checked if there is an app on iOS for it.

There are Chrome extensions, too.

 

[systematic]

You didn't read that correctly. Stacking is about being able to keep an entire season available on VOD or Hulu rather than the last 5 episodes. When the episodes debut on streaming isn't impacted.

They are impacted for FX and Turner networks. Hulu only gets to stream their exclusive shows once stacking exclusivity on VOD ends.

Additionally, you can look forward to streaming future comedy, drama and event series from FX Productions exclusively on Hulu. Titles that will be exclusive to Hulu subscribers after their first seasons include:

Hulu Signs Landmark Agreement with FX Productions

It’s worth noting Turner retains in-season stacking rights to the shows, which will remain available to pay-TV subscribers via on-demand, on Turner’s sites and through TV Everywhere services with cable, satellite and telco TV providers before they go to Hulu.

Hulu Pacts With Turner for Exclusive Rights to Cartoon, Adult Swim, TNT, TBS Shows

 

[Cybit]

They are impacted for FX and Turner networks. Hulu only gets to stream their exclusive shows once stacking exclusivity on VOD ends.


Hulu Signs Landmark Agreement with FX Productions


Hulu Pacts With Turner for Exclusive Rights to Cartoon, Adult Swim, TNT, TBS Shows

My biggest fear is that if you have more ISP / Cable / Entertainment company mergers ala NBC/Comcast; that they crush Netflix & Hulu by instituting bandwidth caps and offering cable TV services as a way to watch VOD to get around them.

 

[bigkrev]

If you still get ads with Hulu plus, what exactly are you paying for? Just a bigger library?

If you aren't paying, you are limited to a SD image, only on Computers, and some shows may not be available (for example, WWE Smackdown isn't on the free version). Paying gives you device access, HD quality, and every show on the service.

 

[Maximus.]

Well that is pretty lame :/ Breaking Bad for instance got its huge start from streaming on Netflix...

 

[Blader]

Wow, I knew that Hulu would be spending some serious money to make themselves a real contender against but Netflix and Amazon but I didn't expect they'd be spending this much.

Interesting.

Now if they could only invest some of that money into their actual video player.