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[SlimySnake]

The greatest leak of all time. insane sales for Days gone and DriveClub. I dont understand Sony.

According to this reddit comment the cutoff date for this sales data is last week of Feb 2022!

 

[N1tr0sOx1d3]

Jesus, Sony is haemorrhaging information.

 

[BoxFresh123]

 

[DeepEnigma]

If true, both were successful and sold a lot more than people assumed/speculated.

Even TLoU2 is over 10m at the time of this sheet.

 

[Darkkahn]

Can't stop, won't stop.

 

[Gameplay Gods Bless]

The greatest leak of all time. insane sales for Days gone and DriveClub. I dont understand Sony.

This is huge for Bloodborne data. Finally we get numbers.

 

[John Bilbo]

Release Bloodborne on PC and let's make it 20 million you bastards

 

[nial]

Just when I started to do some research on PS4 and PS5 first-party games sales yesterday. No Astro Bot Rescue Mission is lame, though.

 

[Gaiff]

Uncharted Legacy of Thieves: 569K. And people were expecting it to sell 10M copies on PC when the sales completely dried up even on Playstation. Hell, didn't it actually sell more on PC than on PS5?

 

[Mr Reasonable]

Jim Ryan left the keys in the door as he walked out.

 

[Elbereth]

I should send Sony my resume. They need some serious cybersecurity help.

 

[Banjo64]

Lost Legacy over 5m and the Nathan Drake collection over 10m jumps out at me. Strong.

 

[GHG]

So basically if they stuck with them Driveclub and Days Gone would have had potential to grow into much bigger franchises. Meanwhile Predator should have served as a warning that GAAS was not the way to go but yet they doubled down on it.

Now that Jimbo is gone, Hulst needs to be gone soon as well. The idea that the only way a game gets a second opportunity is if it does more than ~10 million units is fucking stupid.

 

[Robb]

Some of these sold waaaay more than I thought. 7M of Days Gone and they didn’t want to make a sequel?

 

[Sleepwalker]

Look at those digital splits Thick Thighs Save Lives rofif And all my other physical brothers, so much for this being the last gen with discs.

 

[nial]

Returnal million seller confirmed.

 

[Punished Miku]

This is a dog catching the tail moment. "OH MY GOD SO THAT'S WHAT BLOODBORNE AND DRIVE CLUB SOLD!!!!"

"... anyway."

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

So basically if they stuck with them Driveclub and Days Gone would have had potential to grow into much bigger franchises.

Now that Jimbo is gone, Hulst needs to be gone soon as well. The idea that the only way a game gets a second opportunity is if it does more than ~10 million units is fucking stupid.

Driveclub' studio wasn't closed by Jim or Hulst and Days Gone 2 wasn't canceled by them as well. It was a studio internal decision confirmed by the previous CEO of Bend Studio but sure...fire those 2 lmao

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Look at those digital splits Thick Thighs Save Lives rofif And all my other physical brothers, so much for this being the last gen with discs.

Yo, those ratios are crazy! Let me tell you that all digital bros are in shambles.

 

[Sleepwalker]

So basically if they stuck with them Driveclub and Days Gone would have had potential to grow into much bigger franchises. Meanwhile Predator should have served as a warning that GAAS was not the way to go but yet they doubled down on it.

Now that Jimbo is gone, Hulst needs to be gone soon as well. The idea that the only way a game gets a second opportunity is if it does more than ~10 million units is fucking stupid.

So fucking stupid to can a new IP that sold over 7m.

Theres only so much horizon, gow, tlou and spiderman we can take before we bounce from it.

Makes no sense to me.

 

[Dane]

Ghost of Tsushima is probably their biggest net profit for a new IP.

 

[GHG]

Driveclub' studio wasn't closed by Jim or Hulst and Days Gone 2 wasn't canceled by them as well. It was a studio internal decision confirmed by the previous CEO of Bend Studio but sure...fire those 2 lmao

Jimbo is going anyway and Hulst has given us fuck all but safe sequels of late.

So yes, fire him.

 

[nial]

Uncharted Legacy of Thieves: 569K. And people were expecting it to sell 10M copies on PC when the sales completely dried up even on Playstation. Hell, didn't it actually sell more on PC than on PS5?

You could do a $10 upgrade if you owned only one of the two games, of course it wasn't gonna be a big seller, at all.

 

[Bojji]

Some of these sold waaaay more than I thought. 7M of Days Gone and they didn’t want to make a sequel?

It was "problematic" according to some reviewers (Sony is very woke since then) plus metacritic wasn't very high.

Buy yeah, they could make sequel that would be better in every way (like Uncharted 2) and sell millions.

 

[Sleepwalker]

Driveclub' studio wasn't closed by Jim or Hulst and Days Gone 2 wasn't canceled by them as well. It was a studio internal decision confirmed by the previous CEO of Bend Studio but sure...fire those 2 lmao

Yeah fire the Bend guy too for good measure.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Skimming the data, some things I noticed:

- The middle columns are sell-through
- Ballparking it, if you look at Net Sales / copies sold, most games trend to around $30-40 NS per copy (excluding budget games and remasters which are lower)
- Digital games have edged up to 44% for 2021 games. For older games it was in the mid 30s
- Regionally, Sony USA (I think that would include Canada and Latin America) has the highest sales portion, it's growing each year and the $$$ portions are even higher. So it means people in North America region pay the highest prices

 

[jm89]

WTF some of those sales are way more then i expected.

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Jimbo is going anyway and Hulst has given us fuck all but safe sequels of late.

So yes, fire him.

Hulst's work won't be seen for a while and literally most of his decisions aren't games we currently know. What safe sequels? lmao.

 

[BrunoCoel]

When the document with engagement numbers will leak?

We need the really important data here.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

The greatest leak of all time. insane sales for Days gone and DriveClub. I dont understand Sony.

5 mil and 7.5 mil ain't what it used to be, especially when we know a large percentage of those numbers don't come from full priced copies.

You really need to be targeting 10, 15+ million plus for modern AAA.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

The greatest leak of all time. insane sales for Days gone and DriveClub. I dont understand Sony.

Cheers, Op! Imma keep this one real close whenever an dumbass on the internet reees that physical sales are dead on Sony machines.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

i see a buch of numbers and percentages....

 

[DeepEnigma]

5 mil and 7.5 mil ain't what it used to be, especially when we know a large percentage of those numbers don't come from full priced copies.

You really need to be targeting 10, 15+ million plus for modern AAA.

It's all budget based, you know this. Bloodborne did NOT carry the same budget as TLoU or Spider-Man.

 

[Fake]

Days Gone and Ghost did well for a new IP.

edit: Driveclub is my favorite. Dude, this game did well after all even with that shit launch.

 

[SlimySnake]

Look at those digital splits Thick Thighs Save Lives rofif And all my other physical brothers, so much for this being the last gen with discs.

Cheers, Op! Imma keep this one real close whenever an dumbass on the internet reees that physical sales are dead on Sony machines.

Sorry bro but these are mostly PS4 era sales. Pre 2022.

Latest figures from Sony's own fiscal year reports state that the digital split is now 75% for their first party games.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

5 mil and 7.5 mil ain't what it used to be, especially when we know a large percentage of those numbers don't come from full priced copies.

You really need to be targeting 10, 15+ million plus for modern AAA.

in another leak ≈5 M its seems to be the bare minimum to break even for this AAA games

 

[onQ123]

Just as I suspected Last Of Us 2 went woke & could only sell 10 million the people responded with their wallets that will teach them.

 

[xrnzaaas]

Returnal with only 1 million is pretty much what I expected.

 

[Saber]

Lmao LoU2 sold less than Lou Remaster, and probably costed waaaaay more to develop

Demon Souls should be ashamed of just selling that poor, but I guess it appeases the graphic whores. Meanwhile Elden Ring wipes the floor yet it didn't need realistic visuals, just a stunning art direction.

Kudos to GoT and Days Gone for selling that way even though were new IPs. Specially Days Gone since it was from a time people annoyingly complain about the "zombie apocalipse" being tired setting

 

[rapid32.5]

Horizon outsold TLOU huge surprise to me.

 

[Gaiff]

How did R&C 2016 manage 7M+ but Rift Apart will probably struggle to break 4M?

Maybe they should have continued with the reboot after all.

 

[RoboFu]

Almost 8 million for Bloodborne and no sequel in sight.

 

[Snowdonhoffen]

Would like to see how much The Last of Us show boosted the franchise sales.

 

[GHG]

It was "problematic" according to some reviewers (Sony is very woke since then) plus metacritic wasn't very high.

Buy yeah, they could make sequel that would be better in every way (like Uncharted 2) and sell millions.

Days Gone pisses me off more than anything else on that list. It's brimming with potential and the ending set it up nicely for a sequel.

Instead let's get 10 more Spiderman games.

 

[Fake]

We need to know the total cost of TLOUSpart2, because 10m don't look that good for the amount of PR this game did and spend.

 

[Woopah]

I wish this is the sort of information that actually got reported regularly.

Ghosts and Bloodborne did really really well. The average sale price and digital splits are also super super interesting.

 

[jm89]

12.7 Million for GT sport am i reading that right?

 

[Thirty7ven]

5 mil and 7.5 mil ain't what it used to be, especially when we know a large percentage of those numbers don't come from full priced copies.

You really need to be targeting 10, 15+ million plus for modern AAA.

Not with first games. Nintendo wasn’t selling 30 million copies of Zelda before.

Absolute shit show from Sony here. If they expect new IP to hit 10 million out of the gate then lol

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Sorry bro but these are mostly PS4 era sales. Pre 2022.

Latest figures from Sony's own fiscal year reports state that the digital split is now 75% for their first party games.

Wait, that doesn't make sense since we know from their latest report that the digital split is 67% for software that sells both physically and digitally (3P + 1P). Don't have the 1st party split on hand but surely it's not 75%?

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

It's all budget based, you know this. Bloodborne did NOT carry the same budget as TLoU or Spider-Man.

Exactly. And the RoI from Bloodborne wasn't deemed high enough to greenlight a sequel.

It's just simple math.

Too many people are willing to believe untrue things just because they personally liked a game.