oneils
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We'll have to get Alo working on Hannah Montana and Mary-Kate and Ashley. Who knows what is in those games.
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Am I crazy or did Geist have nudity
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We'll have to get Alo working on Hannah Montana and Mary-Kate and Ashley. Who knows what is in those games.
ichtyander
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Wow, it looks like I was right, the UV map shows those polys are using pieces of the belt part of the texture.
UV of the polys.
UV, zoomed in.
The weird thing is, it looks like the UV mapping was deliberately placed like this, like how the polys conveniently take up the edge of the lower part of the belt, forming the black space around the belt pixels when stitched together. Either that, or a mistake on the mapper's part, but it's a bit too convenient to be honest.
Alo81, you're an inspiration to us all.
UV of the polys.
UV, zoomed in.
The weird thing is, it looks like the UV mapping was deliberately placed like this, like how the polys conveniently take up the edge of the lower part of the belt, forming the black space around the belt pixels when stitched together. Either that, or a mistake on the mapper's part, but it's a bit too convenient to be honest.
Alo81, you're an inspiration to us all.
SeventhSon
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I saw this thread when it went up last night... good work, guys!
Azure Dream
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Reminds me of Tomb Raider Legend. Not on Lara herself, but in the club scene, the dancers are actually the same model dressed up differently. Moderately clever for the time. But on the earliest printings (I believe the European ones), the unclothed texture for the figure had at least nipples, I'm not sure about down below.
Somebody pointed it out, and the devs called him a liar/faker. So he pointed to the exact files and how you could look it up yourself, and they got very quiet after that. The European PC version got a quick patch. (I'm sure all copies sold afterward were pre-patched.)
Unfortunately, trying to Google it now just leads to a bunch of bad nude mods.
Edit: It was just a nipple, but here's an article (in Dutch, Google Translation)
Somebody pointed it out, and the devs called him a liar/faker. So he pointed to the exact files and how you could look it up yourself, and they got very quiet after that. The European PC version got a quick patch. (I'm sure all copies sold afterward were pre-patched.)
Unfortunately, trying to Google it now just leads to a bunch of bad nude mods.
Edit: It was just a nipple, but here's an article (in Dutch, Google Translation)
For what it's worth, it's pretty much confirmed to be intentional by the post below.
Okay I think this is gonna be my last post, so we truly know what happened and how.
I narrowed it down to being this texture, specifically the black trapezoid on the left. I made it 4x the size so you can really see well.
To figure out that was the texture and the spot, I replaced the texture with a different color. You can see it below here.
The result?
So now we know the culprit. It's a separate part of the texture, rendered only in that spot, and when it's changed it only changes that area.
Case closed.
That small black trapezoid is placed separately from the rest of the texture, it's applied exactly in the area, and when it's color is changed, the only thing on the character that changes is the crotch area.
That black trapezoid was pretty likely intended to be used to get the appearance that it does. If not, it would have just been a flat flesh color.
Valjean Lafitte
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But in laymans terms, what exactly is going on with Jill's model in those YT videos? Are players somehow conveniently getting the model to clip in that area?
It means we're seeing a bit of the belt texture surreptitiously placed such that it looks kinda maybe like a vagina, if we squint right.
Otherwise, the youtube videos aren't doing anything special - you can navigate around the models yourself in a similar fashion.
SapientWolf
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I think it was meant to be a shadow to cover everything, and the crease is just an unfortunate side effect. At that angle, it's located where the back of her legs would be.
Here's my thoughts.
If it was meant to just be a shadow, and we can tell from the texture that someone specifically placed that part of the texture there for the purpose of being displayed on that part of the model, then that means someone made that texture and took the time to see how it looked on the model, saw the crease and decided "That's exactly how that should look."
At this point, that seems like way to big of a coincidence for me to think that it wasn't intentional. I'm not saying it was 100% done on purpose, just that it realllly really seems like it was.
Messofanego
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Oh, so that's why this thread blew up!
IdreamofHIME
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So I get get a lawyer and sue Nintendo for this, right?
Just like hot coffee?
Just like hot coffee?
"Texture Issue" they said.
:Motorbass
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Oh I recognize that face. It is from a nude foto model. I don't think it's porn but more for "art" reference as she stands in various poses (for example the 3D-Model "unrigged" pose) and angles. If I remember correctly
SomedayTheFire
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This thread got so much better. Great work.
WAR recon zero
Banned
Plot thickens
Porcile
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Is it from 3D.sk or something?
LordMuffin
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I knew it deep inside that Geist had hidden potential, the press wasn't quick to pick it up 8 years ago.
At last we got to some Jill sandwich.
The way those random textures are placed conspicuously here, it's clear that it was the intent of the modelers to put it so that it looks that way.
ichtyander
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ichtyander
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It's come full circle, since now OP can see the actual woman on which the game model was based, in full nudity.
And then we will find out she has a GAF account.
How did you know this? I'm impressed, not calling you a creep.
Porcile
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3D.sk models are pretty well known in 3D modelling circles. You do look at them for hours on end after all. Especially when learning. Wasn't hard to guess it came from there!
Fine Ham Abounds
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We are such a den of pathetic nerds, and I mean that in the most affectionate way possible. These types of threads are always the best.
ichtyander
Member
And it's actually the OP.
Procile commented on Motorbass' post about a free stock photo model on 3d.sk, googled "3d.sk" on google images and the girl was on the first results page. Turns out it's from a russian website with download links to full sets from 3d.sk and it mentions the name of the girl. The rest was easy, searched the name on 3d.sk, skimmed through the photos of her face and found several that seemed to match the game texture, this one matched perfectly.
A personal journey of discovery and nude stock photographs.
If you'r a game artist, for example, it's a site you'll already be extremely familiar with. And using touched-up real faces is a very common shortcut for many games.
PandaPedinte
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I remember seeing this thread Saturday's night, and I was wondering why it reached 9 pages. Goof job detectiveGAF.
SeventhSon
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LeadenStride
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Easily the best thread in a while. I followed it all the way through since saturday. You guys are unbelievable.
Same here. It wasn't bad but it was a dissapointment after all of the hype.
My favorite part was at the beginning when you were possessing animals. I thought that was going to be a mechanic of the game where you could go through a forest and play with the animal creatures. Then it turned into Killzone (the other supposed Halo at the time) with scare people segments.
The game had potential though. To bad it was never realized.
The collective knowledge of GAF astounds me 
We went from the vague wondering of whether there was nudity in Geist, find out it's not exactly that but the hunch was correct, doing so by ripping the textures from the game, and now we've gone so far that we know the real life person the model is based on and there is in fact nudity involved with that real life model. Everybody is satisfied.
We went from the vague wondering of whether there was nudity in Geist, find out it's not exactly that but the hunch was correct, doing so by ripping the textures from the game, and now we've gone so far that we know the real life person the model is based on and there is in fact nudity involved with that real life model. Everybody is satisfied.MiniBossBattle
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Holy crap, you guys can get access to texture maps on console games?!
O_O
O_O
ichtyander
Member
You'd be surprised the lengths people go to just to see naked 3d models of ingame characters.
I remember there was talk of modding in Kratos from the Vita version of Mortal Kombat into the PC one. Don't know what became of that, but yeah, depends on the engine used and from game to game, there are custom written tools to open various formats.
I remember crouch walking through her hologram and thinking that the merging of polygons looked suspiciously like a vagina, and back then I was recording play throughs of all my games on (VHS of all things) when I saw it, but unfortunately the tapes have been long gone for years. Wish I could dig it out to show you guys. I still have the game though.
Nealand Liquor
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speak for yourself
Using the Dolphin emulator (Gamecube and Wii) it has an option to dump textures as you play. So every texture the game loads, it dumps into a folder as a PNG file.
Then, you can edit the PNG file and place the edited textures into a "load" folder and Dolphin will load your custom textures instead of the games default textures.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Same here. Thought for sure nothing would come of it, but it's always a sign when a thread is still going several days later.
I await your response, Nintendo.
SwiftDeath
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Nintendo: Well everyone was complaining our games weren't mature enough so there you go
