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Amazon: Deus Ex Human Revolution Director's Cut (Wii U/$50) - May 7

I just checked out videos of this game on youtube. I'll probably be buying this game too. :) It's new to me. I can understand folks that got it on PS360 not buying it on the WiiU though. Especially at 50 bucks. How much does this game go for now on PS360? That would be the other problem if it can be had around 20-30 bucks.
 
But seriously though, why is there so much excitement for improved ports of GCN (Wind Waker) and Wii (MH Tri) games, while an improved port of one of the best PS360 games is met with open scorn? Am I missing something here? I honestly want to know what's the conceptual difference, other than WW and MH being exclusive. MH4 isn't coming out on Wii U last I checked. Maybe this isn't the right topic for this.

I'm certain people would be far more positive about this port if it were to be heavily expanded in the way that MH3U is to vanilla MH3. For example 17 small monsters vs 22; 18 large monsters vs 50; etc. I can see the point you're trying to make, but they are not really that relevant.
 
One of my favorite games from the last few years. Not sure what Nintendo fans are upset about. That box art is hilariously bad though.

It remembers me of The Conduit's.

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But seriously though, why is there so much excitement for improved ports of GCN (Wind Waker) and Wii (MH Tri) games, while an improved port of one of the best PS360 games is met with open scorn? Am I missing something here? I honestly want to know what's the conceptual difference, other than WW and MH being exclusive. MH4 isn't coming out on Wii U last I checked. Maybe this isn't the right topic for this.

There's a difference in a remake and a port. Remaking a GCN game (one or two generations old depending on your definition) and a game that was only available on one console that didn't sell particularly well is nothing like porting over a game that was widely available on PS3 and 360 and has been $5 on PC MULTIPLE times over the last year or so.

The difference in the experience from Wind Waker to the remake will (hopefully) be dramatic and offer a new experience to people. The port of Deus Ex will likely run worse than the PS3/360 versions and certainly worse than the PC version and offer nothing meaningful over the existing versions.
 
Hopefully there's enough "new" to warrant a repurchase. I really loved the game, but I'm not planning on re-buying it unless there's some meaningful new content.
 
There's a difference in a remake and a port. Remaking a GCN game (one or two generations old depending on your definition) and a game that was only available on one console that didn't sell particularly well is nothing like porting over a game that was widely available on PS3 and 360 and has been $5 on PC MULTIPLE times over the last year or so.

The difference in the experience from Wind Waker to the remake will (hopefully) be dramatic and offer a new experience to people. The port of Deus Ex will likely run worse than the PS3/360 versions and certainly worse than the PC version and offer nothing meaningful over the existing versions.

Why do you thinks so? The game coming out half a year after Wii U's launch probably means that it isn't a rushjob-launch port. I tend to believe this will actually look best of all the console versions.
 
I might consider it if they fixed the awful boss fights. I never beat the game because I got stuck on some stupid chick who I didn't have enough ammo to kill.
 
Why do you thinks so? The game coming out half a year after Wii U's launch probably means that it isn't a rushjob-launch port. I tend to believe this will actually look best of all the console versions.

I love my Wii U so don't think I'm a hater, I'm just basing it on all the other ports that have come out recently (Need for Speed MWU the most recent and most painful), very few of them have looked better than 360 PS3 at all, many have been worse.

I don't consider that a reflection on the Wii U, just a bi-product of the porting process.

Bottom line though, even if the graphics are 'better' it will a very negligible difference that I doubt many people would be able to identify. Certainly not on par with the difference between GCN Wind Wake and the Wii U remake. That was really my larger point.
 
But seriously though, why is there so much excitement for improved ports of GCN (Wind Waker) and Wii (MH Tri) games, while an improved port of one of the best PS360 games is met with open scorn? Am I missing something here? I honestly want to know what's the conceptual difference, other than WW and MH being exclusive. MH4 isn't coming out on Wii U last I checked. Maybe this isn't the right topic for this.

Because one is the remake of one of the best games of all times that is 10+ years old and (hopefully) will look incredibly better than the original while the other is an huge expansion of the original with also enhanced graphics.
Deus Ex will probably be the same game with the same graphics with only the DLC bundled in and support of the gamepad.
 
... Well, damn

Was expecting this, but still, it stings.

Oh, well, I have never played DE:HR, so I guess this will be my chance to play it. Hey, trying to think positive here
 
I wonder if Square will be giving Wii U owners any other Japanese games like Final Fantasy, etc.

Can't say I'm disappointed that this is the game, I knew it for a while now.
 
Box art is terrible.

"Hey, these guys are fighting at each other. I should pose in front of them like this...yeah. You got that? Good."
 
I absolutely would buy this if I hadn't bought it on my 360 two years ago.

I do hope Square-Enix will provide more support than just this.
 
But seriously though, why is there so much excitement for improved ports of GCN (Wind Waker) and Wii (MH Tri) games, while an improved port of one of the best PS360 games is met with open scorn? Am I missing something here?


Can't speak for anyone else, but Wind Waker came out in 2003, and the last time I played it was in 2006 (According to my memory cards!). That, and (in the UK at least), a used copy of wind waker is going to run you very close to full RRP anyway, so it's a good time for a full hd remake.

Whereas, I could simply play Deus Ex for virtually nothing (It was £4.99 in a recent steam sale, I believe). If I was interested in the game, it's very very likely I already have a copy at a fraction of the price the wii u version will be, and played through it relatively recently, and any wii u version changes are realistically likely to be miniscule.

That, and there are plenty of other Square games that I would like to hear of Wii U versions of, but a two year old port is quite a way down that list. A zelda remake isn't ideal, but we've already been promised a new one is in the works to go alongside it.
 
The game is incredible and definitely worth playing. It's been on sale for PC for like $7 though so uh, unless they jam pack it full of content I can't see it being worthwhile.
 
One of my favorite games from the last few years. Not sure what Nintendo fans are upset about. That box art is hilariously bad though.

Well, is all about expectations. S-E has many new and upcoming games that many Wii U owners would appreciate for the platform. Instead they are getting a 2 year old game with dubious "upgrades".

As for me, is hard to justify paying $50 for a game I payed ~$10 on a Steam sale last year.
 
Theres arent even words to describe the failure this is especially when Thief 4 show s EM wont be doing a Wii U version of Deus Ex 4. I dont even blame Square for this mess
 
This is Enix testing out not only the level of port they can accomplish but also see if there is a market in the new console for titles like these.

I just like how they apparently figure the people that own a Wii U are also people that haven't already played the game.
 
Bingo. Someone gets it.

Its the same as releasing Mass Effect 2 for PS3 which came out a year after 360's version, and then Mass Effect 3. The sales warranted them to port the original to PS3 and release Mass Effect Trilogy. If the game sells well, they will release the sequel for it. If it doesn't, they won't.


This is Enix testing out not only the level of port they can accomplish but also see if there is a market in the new console for titles like these.

Mass Effect 2 was released on Ps3 because EA was the publisher for the title and 3rd party publishers love money, also bioware was a part of EA and Dragon Age was available at the same time with the Xbox 360 version even the sales were not on what they have hoped for.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/ea-holiday-sales-slip-25-dragon-age-ships-32-million-6249940

Plus if we take as proof the insane sales forecast for Dead Space 3 to reach 5 million copies to be profitable it was one way to port the game even on 3DO if they could. Costs of productions of Mass Effect franchise pushed to break the exclusivity and microsoft was not willing to money hat the game(logical move) as it was not a system seller.

Same thing is happing with Deus Ex Human Revolution Square-Enix are not willing to invest on Wii U because they are not sure about the early adopters of the console, which the majority are pure nintendo loyalist which they did not cater with them since the SNES saga, so they make a cheap port to make a quick buck and take advantage the early launch window drought. Nothing more nothing less.

Here, I'll break it down for you:
  • Sony and Microsoft release HD systems in 2005/2006.
  • Audience is established and grows over the course of 7 years.
  • Nintendo finally release a system in 2012 comparable to the other HD consoles, with no real incentive for people to transition from the PS3 or 360.
  • The Wii U has an abysmal launch and software sales; ergo, it has a highly limited installed comparative installed base and even smaller audience within that installed base.
  • The audience for publisher's core titles is still on the PS3 and 360. The limited audience on the Wii U is not worth the additional investment - if they're really interested in these titles they will have a platform which can play them.
If as someone said earlier, "I only want GTAV if it's on the Wii U." then no, you don't really want GTAV.

Lets elaborate on the bold comment you made. Do you know anything about the power of the Wii U? Do not post the CPU/GPU threads here on GAF there are only speculation comments. Is there any big budget game tailored for the console? Is there any first party Killer App game on the console yet? And what anything have to do with the power of the console for the port of Deus Ex Human Revolution?

The rest of the list I agree with. There is no real reason NOW to immigrate from Ps3 or Xbox 360 to Wii U, as there will not be a reason for Ps4 or Durango when they will come out. If 3rd party publishers continue with the cross gap releases. As you ,correct, make point about user base and limited audience is a serious hurdle to jump ship yet from Ps3 and Xbox 360 gen for the publishers investments. See watch dogs, thief, assassins creed and other big 3rd party hitters. The production cost severely destroyed most of the middle tiers publishers this generation, massive closure of studios all over the world because of the capitalistic crisis(so much for crisisproof industry some evangelist said in 2009).

That's why We see a port of a 2 year old game on Wii U rather than a new multiplatform IP. Because of the cost to develop for the console that the publishers have no idea how it will perform plus the studios have no idea how to take advantage the power of the console(other being lazy, others are hard at work like criterion but need time) plus the risk to make something unique with the controller that would be difficult to port on the other consoles. IF by any miracle Wii U perform better than the Ps4/Durango maybe we will see special games for Wii U from risky publishers but my opinion is that even then Wii U will get straight ports.

Also I have not yet played the game and already own a PC, Xbox 360 and Ps3. I wanted the game the first time it was announced but other stuff got in the way. Maybe as myself is late to the party if this port is as good as mass effect 3 which was the definite edition I will dip even at the full price. I do not say that is good that they release a 2 year port at full price IF IT IS JUST A PORT that you can find cheap on a cheaper system but IF IT IS the BETTER VERSION with WII U PAD EXTRAS then the extra work should be rewarded.
 
I just checked out videos of this game on youtube. I'll probably be buying this game too. :) It's new to me. I can understand folks that got it on PS360 not buying it on the WiiU though. Especially at 50 bucks. How much does this game go for now on PS360? That would be the other problem if it can be had around 20-30 bucks.

You can get it for about £7 in England. Disgusting to release this on the Wii-U for full price
 
I wonder if Square will be giving Wii U owners any other Japanese games like Final Fantasy, etc.

Can't say I'm disappointed that this is the game, I knew it for a while now.

I remember ShockingAlberto saying something about a terrible MMO from Square Enix possibly coming to the Wii U.

Not that anyone, other than Square Enix, of course, cares about Final Fantasy 14 anymore.
 
I just checked out videos of this game on youtube. I'll probably be buying this game too. :) It's new to me. I can understand folks that got it on PS360 not buying it on the WiiU though. Especially at 50 bucks. How much does this game go for now on PS360? That would be the other problem if it can be had around 20-30 bucks.

$14 new PS3 on Amazon.
 
But seriously though, why is there so much excitement for improved ports of GCN (Wind Waker) and Wii (MH Tri) games, while an improved port of one of the best PS360 games is met with open scorn? Am I missing something here? I honestly want to know what's the conceptual difference, other than WW and MH being exclusive. MH4 isn't coming out on Wii U last I checked. Maybe this isn't the right topic for this.

MH Tri and WW satisfy a rare niche, a port of HR really doesn't.
 
Well played, SE... Well played...

But not.

Would consider if it was around £15-20. But not for this price. Why not Tomb Raider or even FFXIII:LR?
 
I never asked for this.

But seriously, like many others I imagine, I got this on Steam for a bargain, I'm not going to buy this on the Wii U for $50.

This is not good support.
 
I remember ShockingAlberto saying something about a terrible MMO from Square Enix possibly coming to the Wii U.

Not that anyone, other than Square Enix, of course, cares about Final Fantasy 14 anymore.

The fixed version of Final Fantasy 14 looks better, the only other MMO I know Square is doing is DQX so it would be interesting it they bring Final Fantasy 14 to Wii U.
 
I'll actually pay some attention to this game. If there are some actual content additions, I think I may double dip. If GamePad support is the only new content, I'm not quite sure I can justify it.
 
But seriously though, why is there so much excitement for improved ports of GCN (Wind Waker) and Wii (MH Tri) games, while an improved port of one of the best PS360 games is met with open scorn? Am I missing something here? I honestly want to know what's the conceptual difference, other than WW and MH being exclusive. MH4 isn't coming out on Wii U last I checked. Maybe this isn't the right topic for this.
Wind Water and MH3: Ultimate are in HD and actually look way different than the original releases. This is a port of a 2 year old game with probably a few slight changes. I can get the same experience elsewhere for much less.

Also, the MH audience in North America is starved and the series itself was in jeopardy of not coming to North America. The Zelda audience is also really massive and they've been clamoring for an HD upgrade. I doubt many of the Deus Ex fan base was wanting a more expensive version of the same game they already got with a few slight changes and Game Pad gimmicks.
 
But seriously though, why is there so much excitement for improved ports of GCN (Wind Waker) and Wii (MH Tri) games, while an improved port of one of the best PS360 games is met with open scorn? Am I missing something here? I honestly want to know what's the conceptual difference, other than WW and MH being exclusive. MH4 isn't coming out on Wii U last I checked. Maybe this isn't the right topic for this.

First of all both of those games are going from SD to HD, and WW is gonna get a complete overhaul its like an HD remake, MH is adding about 50% more content its plus going HD. Where as Dues Ex is just adding game pad stuff and is pretty much the same game you can find for 10 bucks on other consoles.
 
If Nintendo fans are so bitter about getting a port from one of the best games of recent years. I really hope they just don't get anything at all in the coming future.
 
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