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Amazon's first three PC games unveiled: New World, Breakaway, and Crucible
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nuclearaddict
Banned
New world sounds like it's trying to be Ultima Online.
PLEASE BY ALL THAT IS HOLY IN THE WORLD BE FUCKING TRUE.
RICHARD GARRIOT HAS LET ME DOWN, DON'T PLAY WITH MY HEART BEZOS.
My Dark Age of Camelot Armsman's armor color scheme was a tribute to a blacksmith in UO :]
decoyplatypus
Member
They all sound like promising concepts to me (well, Breakway is pretty close to multiple proven game designs, so it has that going for it). I'll look forward to more information about New World.
IcyRhythms
Member
Seems their all multiplayer/competitive. Not interested. zzzzzzzzz More of a single player guy these days.
bonesmccoy
Banned
Crucible sounds like it could be fun except:
- the whole WHO CAN YOU TRUST thing gets old ultra fast. Regular horde-mode co-op is better.
- 12 is too many
- Game master idea sounds good on paper, but will be awful in praxis
The others, eh.
- the whole WHO CAN YOU TRUST thing gets old ultra fast. Regular horde-mode co-op is better.
- 12 is too many
- Game master idea sounds good on paper, but will be awful in praxis
The others, eh.
Forerunner
Member
New World sounds good, the other two are eh.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Thats my take too. Consider me interested.
I also like how these are post-Gen 7 AAA ideas too. The old scars, they heal.
Breakaway is much weirder than I thought, although I imagine this poor man's plunder is just one mode of many. That was not an all that exciting match to watch, I couldn't really tell what were most characters doing or what was going on.
Their games seem to be pretty creative at least.
Their games seem to be pretty creative at least.
piratepwnsninja
Member
Yeah, I actually think all three of these concepts sound like they have potential. We'll have to see on the execution, though.
IgotElbows
Member
I thought literally the exact same thing when I saw him. lol
CamHostage
Member
Separate thing, but (as I'm sure you know) Amazon does have (or had??) a mobile initiative that has published games on iTunes; not sure if any of those made it to Google Play or only were on the Amazon App Shop. And they have worked out means of selling digital codes on Amazon by working with Sony (PS3 and PS4) and MS (only Xbox 360?) to sell digital titles. So as the program goes on, they could.
That said, all three games seem to brag about their livestreaming feature (which is a market Amazon is very interested in finding killer apps for) and surely use other Amazon commerce methods that are layers that might be difficult for MS or Sony to allow onto their box. (Even Google makes some Amazon apps difficult to get on Android because it's outside of their revenue system.)
So my guess is that like these three are unlikely to be anywhere but PC, but future Amazon products might play the field a little more?
Just reading this description before seeing any screenshots, I absolutely pictured this in my head with UO-like graphics
MikeE21286
Member
Crucible sounds the most interesting.
New World could be good too, but I think that largely depends on its business model (Freemium vs. Buy once)
Breakaway seems like a blatant shot at something like a Rocket League with non-traditional sports. Not sure it grabs me right away.
New World could be good too, but I think that largely depends on its business model (Freemium vs. Buy once)
Breakaway seems like a blatant shot at something like a Rocket League with non-traditional sports. Not sure it grabs me right away.
GuitarAtomik
Member
New World: Sounds cool. Also sounds pretty ambitious. Need to see more details before I can get excited.
Crucible: Really need more details before I can be interested. Basically sounds like Deathmatch Hunger Games and that could be awesome, but it really depends on execution.
Breakaway: Not sure why everyone is so down on this. Looks like it could be an interesting and unique take on the arcadey sports genre.
Crucible: Really need more details before I can be interested. Basically sounds like Deathmatch Hunger Games and that could be awesome, but it really depends on execution.
Breakaway: Not sure why everyone is so down on this. Looks like it could be an interesting and unique take on the arcadey sports genre.
Will probably be similar to The Culling (check it out that game is really fun)
IgotElbows
Member
Crucible sounds like THE CULLING. Hopefully they learn from the mistakes of that game.
It's weird, when The Culling was out, it was super hot. There were so many people playing it. Now it's forgotten pretty badly. (Only a matter of time before it's F2P or goes in a Humble Bundle)
The Culling is one of the few games I bought and played for only like 3 days before dropping it. It's one of the few games I'd rather be watched played, than play myself.
It's weird, when The Culling was out, it was super hot. There were so many people playing it. Now it's forgotten pretty badly. (Only a matter of time before it's F2P or goes in a Humble Bundle)
The Culling is one of the few games I bought and played for only like 3 days before dropping it. It's one of the few games I'd rather be watched played, than play myself.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
It's cool conceptually and I want to check it out, but the art style is doing nothing to help it stand out for me.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
So THAT'S what Double Helix has been doing.
I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. Strider is fantastic and Killer Instinct is this gen's best fighting game.
I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. Strider is fantastic and Killer Instinct is this gen's best fighting game.
Troubled Bat
Member
Crucible sounds awesome actually.
Worth pointing out that Amazon has been scooping up developers from all over Seattle, poaching quite a few from ArenaNet;
Quite a few others, but those four are really the big ones. Since the Guild Wars 2 expansion ended up being a disaster amidst rumors of internal problems, there's been a steady flow of people out of ArenaNet and into Amazon, so I'm not surprised some kind of MMO was in the works. I'm fairly certain all four of them were involved with the original Guild Wars, which should be good news to a lot of fans.
All of that makes me very curious to see what the New World is all about.
Eric Flannum (former Game Director, now Creative Director at Amazon)
Colin Johanson (former Game Director, no job title but LinkedIn says he's at Amazon)
Jeff Grubb (former Game Designer, now Senior Narrative Designer at Amazon)
Jon Peters (former Game Design lead, now Senior Combat Designer at Amazon)
Colin Johanson (former Game Director, no job title but LinkedIn says he's at Amazon)
Jeff Grubb (former Game Designer, now Senior Narrative Designer at Amazon)
Jon Peters (former Game Design lead, now Senior Combat Designer at Amazon)
Quite a few others, but those four are really the big ones. Since the Guild Wars 2 expansion ended up being a disaster amidst rumors of internal problems, there's been a steady flow of people out of ArenaNet and into Amazon, so I'm not surprised some kind of MMO was in the works. I'm fairly certain all four of them were involved with the original Guild Wars, which should be good news to a lot of fans.
All of that makes me very curious to see what the New World is all about.
Interficium
Banned
There's a lot of ex-343i guys as well.
Forerunner
Member
Seriously. Sounds amazing.
Specialmias
Member
These two know the truth.
I don't think to date there has been a game that comes close to the "idea" of Ultima Online. In it's humble 2d graphics it decided to allow:
1) Player towns
2)Player houses
3) Player vendors
4) Completely useless skills that were there for fun.
5) Sailing the open oceans of the world for fishing which could actually net you good money
But the true, amazing part of Ultima Online is how it let other players fuck you over any chance they got.
You could as a skill, steal inventory from other players. If you died they could loot everything on you. Griefing was built into the game and the game rewarded you by making those players who act like little assholes as targets for you to hunt down. Targets that, by all means were more fun to hunt down than NPCs. That is what made it special, that is why it is missed by many. A great deal many "sandbox" mmos lack that special magic charm.
Breakaway as far as I can tell.
mysteriousmage09
Member
Very interested in New World.
YES, that's the other team I was thinking of, I knew it had something to do with Microsoft but since I couldn't remember I didn't include it. Cheers!
Yeah, if it's an MMO and we're just getting little details now, it could be years away. Peters was there 16 months ago, Flannum for 13, Grubb for 8 months. Probably a year into development, so yeah... quite a ways off, unless the game was already in development and they were just vetting who to bring in to manage it, but still... not much earlier than that.
Then again, Amazon has the infrastructure in place, a ton of money and a lot to prove; maybe they're moving along at a really good pace. Still, I wouldn't hold my breath.
Interficium
Banned
Not a fan of this approach. Too many failures to count amongst games that have done the hard push for streaming and esports right of the gate. 343i basically triple-downed on eSports on an IP with HUGE brand name recognition and was promptly rewarded with a game with significantly less than half the sales of their previous sequel, what makes Amazon/Double Helix think it'll work for an unknown IP?
All the biggest games in streaming and eSports grew organically from the bottom up, starting with a fun game with broad appeal. The 1-percenter types (popular streamers/esports personalities) will emerge from that audience, not the other way around.
Team Filler
Member
I'll remain skeptical of the game until I can actually play it, but I really love the setting they are going after with New World. There's a lot of rich imagery and lore possibilities to pull from the myths and folklore of various native tribes.
BronzeWolf
Banned
All of these 3 games look very interesting!
GuitarAtomik
Member
Amazon doesn't have a whole lot of incentive to make purely single player games. Notice how these all have a big Twitch component (which they own) or the potential to be streamed, and can run on their Amazon cloud servers.