Skyfireblaze
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So if I get this right I can't use VSR yet but should still get a performance boost on my 7970 (280x?) right?
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AMD unveils major GPU driver update, Catalyst Omega
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Yeah, seems like an overall improvement. Even if small.
Skyfireblaze
Member
I see, thanks. Small is better than nothing and I'm happy with the card as it is
If the Pixel Clock Patcher for 75hz still works too with Omega I have nothing to complain about.Last Baron
Member
As a 7850 user, should I be getting this update?
another test with comparisons and so on (German, again...)
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/AMD-R...pecials/Catalyst-Omega-Test-Download-1144699/
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/AMD-R...pecials/Catalyst-Omega-Test-Download-1144699/
Corpsepyre
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Will i get boosts on my 270x?
Ivory Samoan
Gold Member
Pretty weird the 285 getting VSR, when the 7970 blows it's doors in terms of performance...
The 285 uses a more modern GCN architecture.
Ivory Samoan
Gold Member
Damnit. Was really hoping we would get it. It's basically 280X
Skyfireblaze
Member
It might come in the next driver, if I remember correctly, on the Nvidia-side Downsampling was also initially only available to a very limited amount of GPUs.
As for the driver itself it installed without a hitch with my 7970 and the Pixel Clock Patcher for 75hz works too still
What exactly is a Pixel Clock Patcher? Does it increase your monitor's refresh rate? If so, is it easy to install and is there any risk of installing it? I have a Yamakasi Catleap monitor fyiIt might come in the next driver, if I remember correctly, on the Nvidia-side Downsampling was also initially only available to a very limited amount of GPUs.
As for the driver itself it installed without a hitch with my 7970 and the Pixel Clock Patcher for 75hz works too still
You can still downsample from 1800p. That should still give you a pretty crisp IQ at a playable frame rate for most games
Skyfireblaze
Member
Hmm well I will just quote the creator:
It allows me to get my monitor running at 1920x1080@75hz along with Custom Resolution Utility. Without the Pixel Clock patcher I only manage 70hz before my GPU clock gets stuck on high values even while idle.
The only downside is the patcher completely breaks hardware acceleration for any kind of video content :/ But since I don't watch that many videos I'm fine with Flash and Youtube in CPU mode.
And you can read more about it here if you want
http://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-AMD-ATI-Pixel-Clock-Patcher?page=1Parhelion69
Member
Is there any optimization for troublesome games in this driver? (specially AC Unity, which runs like crap on my 7950, and CoD AW, which has lots of stuttering for my friend's 290x!)
ieptbarakat
Member
Would there be any benefit for the HD 6770 cards?
Installed anyways.
Installed anyways.
When they say frame pacing improvements, do they only mean for CF, or for single GPU's as well?
abracadaver
Member
Do you have to uninstall the old drivers first before installing the omega drivers?
Skyfireblaze
Member
It's not 100% necessary but I always recommend uninstalling your current ones with Display Driver Uninstaller in Safe Mode and then installing the new ones.
exmachina64
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Last time I did that was 2003 or something. Unless you run into troubles, it's not worth the hassle. It's basically a myth that you need/should do it.
Projectjustice
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Where are the VSR options in the control center? I cant seem to find the. I have a R9 290.
Edit: i got it!
Edit: i got it!
metalhead79
Neo Member
Any chance this driver improves VCE so Steam In Home Streaming doesn't suck with AMD cards?
I'm using a work around now to force Quicksync for the encoder. I'd rather use my R9 290 for the encoding. But it's considerably slower than Quicksync.
I'm using a work around now to force Quicksync for the encoder. I'd rather use my R9 290 for the encoding. But it's considerably slower than Quicksync.
Projectjustice
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Available resolutions across GPUs as of now:
Has AMD said they can fix this with future updates? I got a 290.
Computerbase did an article on VSR.
Most surprising to me are the severe limitations in terms of supported resolutions:
[Edit: removed image, already posted]
Apparently they are using a hardware scaler instead of simply scaling in software, which also limits them to a fixed filtering type.
Basically, in terms of options/flexibility GeDoSaTo > DSR > VSR, and in terms of compatiblity DSR = VSR > GeDoSaTo.
Most surprising to me are the severe limitations in terms of supported resolutions:
[Edit: removed image, already posted]
Apparently they are using a hardware scaler instead of simply scaling in software, which also limits them to a fixed filtering type.
Compared to the current implementation of VSR, and talking only about downsampling (GeDoSaTo does more than that), GeDoSaTo gives you both a lot more flexibility in terms of rendering resolution, and higher quality filtering options.
Basically, in terms of options/flexibility GeDoSaTo > DSR > VSR, and in terms of compatiblity DSR = VSR > GeDoSaTo.
They said they are going to be releasing "phase 2" of the Omega driver early next year. AMD also suggested support for more cards here.
Here is a quote from the article:
exmachina64
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I thought this way. When I went to install the 14.11.2 Beta in November, I checked the driver version for some reason. It hadn't actually updated the drivers in months. I was still on 14.9 even though I (thought I had) installed every beta driver. After uninstalling the driver and installing the 14.11.2 beta again, it displayed the proper driver version.
Yes, this is still a problem.
Projectjustice
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Awesome dude! Thanks!
What is this magical Riva Tuner frame pacing solution here?
Which usually means that they'll have a beta out pretty soon for it and then the WHQL in that time frame.
Very happy that AMD users are getting this support, even though I left team red this fall (for now).
Guys, I want to hear about the performance improvements. The Far Cry 4 one sounds amazing.. report back!
IchigoSharingan
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zephervack
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What are you talking about?
Limiting the framerate with Riva Tuner Statistics Server?
ambar_hitman
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VSR or not, the Omega drivers are epic. Playing AC Unity at 1080p, Ultra High Quality, Textures High, Shadows High, SSAO On, Bloom On and FXAA applied, FPS is way better. Never drops below 27-28 and remains mostly above 30, and on rooftops around 40. Game looks great and is finally playable. Earlier FPS used to drop to 15-16 in heavily crowded areas.
R9 280 user here.
R9 280 user here.
Skyfireblaze
Member
You are right and I used to simply install new drivers over the old ones before too but ever since Mantle released this gave me some oddities. Whenever I would update more often then not my Mantle version would stay on the old version and a clean install gives me a peace of mind in that regard. I agree it's a hassle though as this way I have to reboot three times but with how rarely I install new drivers I can live with the 5-10 minutes extra.
I'm downloading the FC 4 patch right now. I'll report back when I can.
Also, the fluid video setting is amazing! Apparently it can be used in conjunction with Smooth Video Project to eliminate artifacts while playing interpolated video, it looks awesome, so smooth!
Thanks for the reply, but I know about flexibility and all the options in GeDoSaTo (which are all unmatched). But what I meant with my question was in terms of quality of the downsampling - since Gedosato allows for bicubic and VSR only bilinear, how much better is Gedosato assuming one is using the same resolution?
290 is supported. Mine certainly is working.
RazorbackDB
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I think the performance improvements were made on the cpu overhead, that's why you see improvements only in some games, and unity is supposedly a very cpu intensive game.
There is some cpu efficiency benchmarks on the article durante linked.
There is some cpu efficiency benchmarks on the article durante linked.
Just read - thought it was 285x AND 290x. Didn't read it was through those cards.
Awesome. Thanks!
Question: sorry for the silly question, but can I use this in conjunction with GeDoSaTo? Hell, can I even use GeDoSaTo at all? I remember trying a few months ago, couldn't get it to work and gave up.
Locuza
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Interesting, thanks for that. I'm surprised I have not heard of this program before. I'll play around with it this weekend. I don't use hardware acceleration for videos anyway because I get screen tearing in them for some reason if I do.Hmm well I will just quote the creator:
It allows me to get my monitor running at 1920x1080@75hz along with Custom Resolution Utility. Without the Pixel Clock patcher I only manage 70hz before my GPU clock gets stuck on high values even while idle.
The only downside is the patcher completely breaks hardware acceleration for any kind of video content :/ But since I don't watch that many videos I'm fine with Flash and Youtube in CPU mode.
And you can read more about it here if you want