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Amelia Earhart Mystery: Newly Found Photo

ClosingADoor said:
The combination of them both and the airplane in the picture makes this more believable then I thought it would be when opening the thread.


Would there be records of those kinds of things though?
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I mean if she was contracted as a spy for the US gov there has to be some amount of records of that. Not to mention any possible documents and intel that then informed the Gov that she was captured and imprisoned or killed by the Japanese.
 
I want to believe but shadows in a picture like this can play all sorts of tricks on what the camera actually captured. It does give me hope that experts have looked this over and think it might be genuine.
 
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Proteus said:
I want to believe but shadows in a picture like this can play all sorts of tricks on what the camera actually captured. It does give me hope that experts have looked this over and think it might be genuine.
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That's what stands out here, experts in photographs like this have stated the features on Noonan match pretty much exact. Could be an insane coincidence, but the fact that she was only 200 miles from her destination, close in proximity to the island in question, then there just happen to be two people that match their features pretty closely, one with a front look on what could be Noonan, with a plane that looks like Earhart's in the photo.
 
I'm having a hard time to tell whether the "navigator" is an actual person or just something partially covered by a pole.

I can't seem to figure out his silhouette completely other than the face.
 
Manu said:
I'm having a hard time to tell whether the "navigator" is an actual person or just something partially covered by a pole.

I can't seem to figure out his silhouette completely other than the face.
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He seems to be leaning against the pillar behind him and holding the sign like thing in front. He seems to be at an angle, but his whole body is distinguishable.
 
Manu said:
I'm having a hard time to tell whether the "navigator" is an actual person or just something partially covered by a pole.

I can't seem to figure out his silhouette completely other than the face.
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I tried outlining him in MS Paint.
This is how I see him:

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Does this help?
 
BFIB said:
That's what stands out here, experts in photographs like this have stated the features on Noonan match pretty much exact.
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Well...

The person they're claiming is Earheart seems to be wearing the same clothing as the guy standing behind her/him. The guy supposed to be Noonan is wearing very similar clothing to the people he's standing near. Their conclusions seem specious, at best.

Also: Why in the 9 circles of hell would the US - locked into total war with Japan - sit on any evidence they had that the IJN had captured and killed them? Considering the propaganda America used against Japan, that would have been something they would have absolutely shared with the public during WW2, had it existed.
 
Enduin said:
I mean if she was contracted as a spy for the US gov there has to be some amount of records of that. Not to mention any possible documents and intel that then informed the Gov that she was captured and imprisoned or killed by the Japanese.
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Isn't it possible some official just asked her to take pictures over dinner, and specifically didn't create a paper trail?

And on the same note, isn't it plausible that the US government received no intel about her capture and/or death?

Just wildly speculating as one should in any conspiracy theory thread.
 
5taquitos said:
Isn't it possible some official just asked her to take pictures over dinner, and specifically didn't create a paper trail?

And on the same note, isn't it plausible that the US government received no intel about her capture and/or death?

Just wildly speculating as one should in any conspiracy theory thread.
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This picture is from Office of Naval Intelligence
 
The Broken Ska Record said:
vsaintlo said:
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We should ask the time traveller he will know...
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What was the story with that guy?
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From wikipedia
A photograph from 1941 of genuine authenticity of the re-opening of the South Fork Bridge in Gold Bridge, British Columbia, was alleged to show a time traveler.[5] It was claimed that his clothing and sunglasses were modern and not of the styles worn in Their Past Lives Here, produced and hosted through investment by the Virtual Museum of Canada (VMC).[6]
Further research suggested that the modern appearance of the man may not have been so modern. The style of sunglasses first appeared in the 1920s. On first glance the man is taken by many to be wearing a modern printed T-shirt, but on closer inspection it seems to be a sweater with a sewn-on emblem, the kind of clothing often worn by sports teams of the period. The shirt is very similar to the one that was used by the Montreal Maroons, an ice hockey team from that era. The remainder of his clothing would appear to have been available at the time, though his clothes are far more casual than those worn by the other individuals in the photograph.[7]
Debate centres on whether the image genuinely shows a time traveller, has been photomanipulated, or is simply being mistaken as anachronistic.[7] The "Time Traveling Hipster" became a case study in viral Internet phenomena in museums which was presented at the Museums and the Web 2011 conference in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.[8]
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bonesmccoy said:
Well...

The person they're claiming is Earheart seems to be wearing the same clothing as the guy standing behind her/him. The guy supposed to be Noonan is wearing very similar clothing to the people he's standing near. Their conclusions seem specious, at best.

Also: Why in the 9 circles of hell would the US - locked into total war with Japan - sit on any evidence they had that the IJN had captured and killed them? Considering the propaganda America used against Japan, that would have been something they would have absolutely shared with the public during WW2, had it existed.
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Many reasons.

If she was told to spy(take photos), then was captured. Roosevelt is in a terrible spot. If he confirmed that she was spying, and was killed. The nation would have gone crazy and this was four years before Pearl Harbor when we were trying to stay out of War.
 
Jme said:
From wikipedia
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That's exactly what they want you to think. Just like that lady on the cell phone in the Carlie Chaplin video right...
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What was Jay-Z doing in 1933? Some say he was planting the keys for his success,,,
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Why do you think no one ever really knows what Jay is talking about...
 
bomb said:
Many reasons.

If she was told to spy(take photos), then was captured. Roosevelt is in a terrible spot. If he confirmed that she was spying, and was killed. The nation would have gone crazy and this was four years before Pearl Harbor when we were trying to stay out of War.
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Believe they are talking about withholding info after Pearl Harbor and the start of the war, not before. The only reason I could see them not releasing this info was if they weren't sure she was dead at that point and or they felt the public would blame them for putting her in danger and letting her die. But even that feels like a stretch to me as at that point no one was going to question the gov, let alone put the blame on them over the Japanese. The tragic capture and death of a beloved American icon would have been prime wartime propaganda.
 
Enduin said:
Believe they are talking about withholding info after Pearl Harbor and the start of the war, not before. The only reason I could see them not releasing this info was if they weren't sure she was dead at that point and or they felt the public would blame them for putting her in danger and letting her die. But even that feels like a stretch to me as at that point no one was going to question the gov, let alone put the blame on them over the Japanese. The tragic capture and death of a beloved American icon would have been prime wartime propaganda.
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but then Roosevelt would have been blamed heavily for Pearl Harbor because it would have come out that he knew the whole time that Amelia was captured and killed.
 
Uhh isn't this sorta big news if true?!

I mean, I like how the guy explains all casually "Amelia Earhardt is buried in Siapan the Japense killed her, She crashed on an atol and a ship took her to Siapan."
 
FinKL said:
Uhh isn't this sorta big news if true?!

I mean, I like how the guy explains all casually "Amelia Earhardt is buried in Siapan the Japense killed her, She crashed on an atol and a ship took her to Siapan."
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Of course but its flimsy evidence at best. I mean if you held a gun to my head and said is that a woman in the picture I'm not sure I'd even say yes.
 
bomb said:
but then Roosevelt would have been blamed heavily for Pearl Harbor because it would have come out that he knew the whole time that Amelia was captured and killed.
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That doesn't make sense, it was a surprise attack but not like we were best pals up to that moment. Everyone knew things were getting extremely tense. Amelia going missing 4 years prior isn't some declaration of war or gotcha moment in hindsight explicitly leading to war. And again the fervor and hatred during the wartime for Japan was so huge pretty sure the public would just be raging that the Japanese killed a famous white lady and not really the why or culpability of the Gov in sending her to spy and keeping secret of her capture and death.

Plus some people already still claim and blame FDR for Pearl Harbor and insist he and the military knew when and where it was happening and did nothing so they would have their cause for war. Which is so fucking dumb on so many levels.
 
The amazing thing about this photo isn't just the Amelia lookalike (which in that place at that time would be rare), but that a Noonan figure is also present in the same shot. The two of them together means even if the plane is a stretch that this seems very real
 
In so far as this is being made by the History Channel, I have very little stock in it leading to anything close to a conclusion about Earhart.
 
If true, this is amazing discovery. She may have actually made it out alive. If fake, well at least it looks realistic enough I guess.
 
why were these 2 apparent American spies who crashed their spy plane and were taken into Japanese custody just allowed to randomly lounge around the dock area and not be under any sort of guard as their crashed spy plane was towed to shore over the course of (I assume) many hours?
 
Grym said:
why were these 2 apparent American spies who crashed their spy plane and were taken into Japanese custody just allowed to randomly lounge around the dock area and not be under any sort of guard as their crashed spy plane was towed to shore over the course of (I assume) many hours?
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I don't really see them as lounging here per se, more like waiting. We also don't know the timeline here, this could very well be before they were accused of being spies.
 
Grym said:
why were these 2 apparent American spies who crashed their spy plane and were taken into Japanese custody just allowed to randomly lounge around the dock area and not be under any sort of guard as their crashed spy plane was towed to shore over the course of (I assume) many hours?
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Wasn't the ship a fishing vessel? They are en route to Saipan to turn them over to the Japanese government.
 
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