LiquidSolid
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So Microsoft? Because I assume they think it is a good thing for them.
Microsoft have thought a lot of things would be good for them over the last year or two and how have they worked out in the end?
So Microsoft? Because I assume they think it is a good thing for them.
Same reason they don't go after China for currency manipulation, they're powerless when it comes to doing anything against a country that provides you with cheap-ass labor, and now they have a bit of spending power every other country is lusting after that consumer market, they don't understand the concept of intellectual property rights and they don't share the same values (moral or otherwise) as those the western world do.
I've been to Mexico, so yes I have, er...well stores filled with pirated games at least.
In Shanghai I went to a mall that I think was about 9 stories, lol. The scale of piracy (well, everything really) in China is pretty overwhelming.
It's not overwhelming, it's the norm.
Which is a bigger problem then overwhelming.
There is a market in China, and the first company that breaks through will reap untold fortunes. I can't really fault any company for trying, but it will be difficult.
I doubt the XBOX ONE will be the breakthrough product, (un)fortunately.
Anyways, please keep making games American McGee! I've never played any of them and probably never will, but I want to have a reason to say "Spicy Horse" for many decades to come. (It's probably the best company name of all time, after all!)
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/china-2013-video-game-market-668542Client-based PC games earned $8.87 billion (53.66 billion yuan), while browser games earned $2.11 billion (12.77 billion yuan) and mobile games pulled in just $89.39 million (541 million yuan). Console-based games accounted for a small percentage of the total, just $14.87 million
Same reason they don't go after China for currency manipulation, they're powerless when it comes to doing anything against a country that provides you with cheap-ass labor, and now they have a bit of spending power every other country is lusting after that consumer market, they don't understand the concept of intellectual property rights and they don't share the same values (moral or otherwise) as those the western world do.
That last part interests me the most. Some fresh development blood is always welcome.
Yes, I'm sure Microsoft (and Sony likewise) have not thought of all those things. Thankfully, we can always rely on the supreme insight of American McGee to show us the way. If those companies are investing large sums of money in launching in China, they're probably doing it for a reason, and not oblivious to the plainly obvious challenges of the market.
The market and income for foreign movies, Apple products, sportswear, clothing and accessories (watches, bags, etc.), have still skyrocketed in China even in the face of a "piracy norm."It's not overwhelming, it's the norm.
Which is a bigger problem then overwhelming.
Yes, I'm sure Microsoft (and Sony likewise) have not thought of all those things. Thankfully, we can always rely on the supreme insight of American McGee to show us the way. If those companies are investing large sums of money in launching in China, they're probably doing it for a reason, and not oblivious to the plainly obvious challenges of the market.
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The market and income for foreign movies, Apple products, sportswear, clothing and accessories (watches, bags, etc.), have still skyrocketed in China even in the face of a "piracy norm."
Where is next gen Alice, McGee?
Forget it Fool, block that dream. Abandon that memory, it's unproductive. Go... to F2P.
They're doing it because its seen as a growth market. No one can blame them, there are a lot of consumers there.
Whether or not they've carefully assessed the suitability of their product in the marketplace is a different story.
Where is next gen Alice, McGee?
Clearly the market growth for gaming in China is significantly leaning towards the PC-master race. Consoles will struggle in China by virtue of what it is.
It's no different from how 'console gaming is dead in Japan' narrative gets played out.
Well yeah it's extremely easy to get a console off the "grey market" there and for not much more than what official retailers would sell them for.
Yes, I'm sure Microsoft (and Sony likewise) have not thought of all those things. Thankfully, we can always rely on the supreme insight of American McGee to show us the way. If those companies are investing large sums of money in launching in China, they're probably doing it for a reason, and not oblivious to the plainly obvious challenges of the market.
Hahahaha. Not going to happen.Don't agree with him. If Microsoft (or Sony) take a more localized approach to China (cheaper console and games, localized content and partnership with local companies) I think they can build a market albeit not a tens of million market.
Yes, I'm sure Microsoft (and Sony likewise) have not thought of all those things. Thankfully, we can always rely on the supreme insight of American McGee to show us the way. If those companies are investing large sums of money in launching in China, they're probably doing it for a reason, and not oblivious to the plainly obvious challenges of the market.
Don't agree with him. If Microsoft (or Sony) take a more localized approach to China (cheaper console and games, localized content and partnership with local companies) I think they can build a market albeit not a tens of million market.
I'd argue the biggest issue is censorship and/or how much western games appeal to the chinese.
That last part interests me the most. Some fresh development blood is always welcome.
wtf?
How can the Chinese pirate games on the Xbox One. It's not possible.
I think what the others meant is that "Chinese won't care (for consoles) if they can't play pirated games (on them)."
He not only lives in China, he also founded a game development studio in China (Spicy Horse, which gave us the excellent Alice: Madness Returns... and a handful of not so great smaller games). So it stands to reason that he does know a bit more about the Chinese market than most other people commenting on the topic, or at least has a valid perspective on it.I agree with a lot of what he's saying but before finding out that he lives in China, my first reaction was, "why the fuck are we listening to American McGee for on this subject."
I wish MS(and probably Sony) all the best in China but I would be surprised if they do well. They should have just released the Xbox 360 there for super cheap and see how it does.
BesTV is in Shanghai which is a government sponsored/mandated next generation TV/Internet CATV region. The current STBs are $185. Family Friendly STB with Kinect and a MMORPG games model has been offered as the successful strategy. Educational and casual Indie games are coming. Parents can justify spending for early education via TV/Internet => XTV.Having lived with Chinese exchange students for over a decade now, I can assure American McGee that they find time for both gaming and study.
:lol
The trick is going to be getting pricing structure right. There isn't a preexisting massive console market so they will have to think about what they're offering seriously. But it's certainly not an automatic financial disaster.