I know you all are just dying for more analyst numbers...
http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=14540
http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=14540
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Analyst: Sony Shipped Just 125K to 175K PS3s in North America
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Link648099
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Normally I would agree Wario, but it isn't that hard to contact retailers and figure things out from an analysts point of view
Son of Godzilla
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Missing 125K sold to Iran. TIME TO LIBERATE OUR PS3S
Jack Tratton from Sony has a different version:
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/business/16035820.htm
Sony expects to have fewer units on store shelves today than the 400,000 it previously forecast, Jack Tretton, co-chief operating officer of Sony Computer Entertainment America, said Thursday. The company probably won't hit that mark for another week, meaning that the total number of PlayStation 3s on store shelves will be ``tens of thousands'' short of what the company expected, he said.
So the launch day shipment was between 300-400k and with the second shipment this week they should have shipped the promised 400k.
But maybe he's lying and this analist is correct.
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/business/16035820.htm
Sony expects to have fewer units on store shelves today than the 400,000 it previously forecast, Jack Tretton, co-chief operating officer of Sony Computer Entertainment America, said Thursday. The company probably won't hit that mark for another week, meaning that the total number of PlayStation 3s on store shelves will be ``tens of thousands'' short of what the company expected, he said.
So the launch day shipment was between 300-400k and with the second shipment this week they should have shipped the promised 400k.
But maybe he's lying and this analist is correct.
Hiro_Kunimi_80
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ownedElios83 said:
He sounds like he's saying they'll be "tens of thousands" short of the 400k target another week from now. Wasn't 400k supposed to be day one? If they are still going to be short of that two weeks after launch, a 200k initial launch allocation doesn't sound too far off.Elios83 said:
Jesus. I'm floored.
Ynos Yrros
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I'm sure SONY is lying. They just shipped 2 units for each store, multiply that by 1000 stores that were able to get any at all, and you get it all.
mckmas8808
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GhaleonEB said:
Don't you mean one week after launch? More than likely they will hit at least 350,000 PS3s shipped by the end of the week.
GhaleonEB said:
Umm no he's clear on that,he was interviewed just before the launch last week and he said they won't reach the 400k for an other week, which means that by the end of this week they should have shipped the expected 400k units.
This means that November NPD PS3 numbers should be around 350k (considering that Canada gets shipments too).
Elios83 said:
That was also 5 days ago, and he was estimating how many they would be able to get out. But Sony's version technically doesn't say anything concrete - "tens of thousands" could mean 20k or 300k. If we saw Sony come out and say how exaclty how many they had shipped, that would be one thing, but these vague PR announcements don't mean Jack (sorry about the pun Mr. Tratton).
Zombie James
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NPD > Analysts.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
who's going to go even lower? seems like the predictions just keep falling and falling in numbers
and when the REAL numbes come out, they're never held accountable. ytf do we have to have these threads...
and when the REAL numbes come out, they're never held accountable. ytf do we have to have these threads...
Barry Lightning
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on par with NA ps2 shipments. jolly good show.
Zombie James
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urk said:
Yea, because of the 650K recall.
DarkJediKnight
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Why don't these analyists just call Best Buy?
I've seen the letter Sony sent to Best Buy. It clearly stated that due to circumstances, Sony reduced the amount of systems available to 280k. That's how many were available for shipment. It's very possible that about 240k or so were shipped launch day, and the remaining units we're seeing coming into stores now are the remaining 40k.
I've seen the letter Sony sent to Best Buy. It clearly stated that due to circumstances, Sony reduced the amount of systems available to 280k. That's how many were available for shipment. It's very possible that about 240k or so were shipped launch day, and the remaining units we're seeing coming into stores now are the remaining 40k.
Stumpokapow
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neojubei said:
Analyst: Sony Shipped Just 125K to 175K PS3s in North America
Neojubei: nexgenwars says they sold >260,000
ok
Let me get this straight. Nintendo said they were shipping a million for launch... then wound up shipping just barely above as many as Sony was planning on shipping instead.
No frickin' wonder Wiis are so hard to find. They launched at about 66% the number that the GCN did.
I wanted to blame Gaffer for the ill-advised notion that I could walk in and buy one launch day, but now I definitely see who the real culprit is.
(It's Nintendo, in case anyone didn't read that.)
No frickin' wonder Wiis are so hard to find. They launched at about 66% the number that the GCN did.
I wanted to blame Gaffer for the ill-advised notion that I could walk in and buy one launch day, but now I definitely see who the real culprit is.
(It's Nintendo, in case anyone didn't read that.)
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
urk said:
I don't think you understood my post. Neojubei was saying this analyst was wrong or somehow non-credible, and then cited the 260k number which I've heard from no source other than nexgenwars, which is the least credible source we could possibly have about sales.
Well, right now there doesn't seem to be any credible information at all. The only sure thing is that Sony did not initially ship enough systems to meet preorder demand. Whether or not that means they shifted those over to larger box retailers or simply did not have enough systems on hand in the states is anyone's guess.
Personally, shipments below 300k don't seem too far fetched given the reductions in early Sony predictions, along with reduction in the Japanese markets and complete unavailability of the system in both markets.
Personally, shipments below 300k don't seem too far fetched given the reductions in early Sony predictions, along with reduction in the Japanese markets and complete unavailability of the system in both markets.
This is true, BTW.
A friend does some marketing consulting for Target, and they told him this...
1. Target got 14k PS3s nationwide.
2. Sony told Target that was 11% of the total U.S. shipment.
So, if you do the math...
...That means there were about 127k PS3s shipped at launch.
A friend does some marketing consulting for Target, and they told him this...
1. Target got 14k PS3s nationwide.
2. Sony told Target that was 11% of the total U.S. shipment.
So, if you do the math...
...That means there were about 127k PS3s shipped at launch.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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urk said:
The real question is will the shortage continue.
Shaved Moustache
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"tens of thousands"
Bookmark time. :lol
Bookmark time. :lol
Deja-vu? I thought parts of this news piece was posted yesterday without the first pagraph discussing Sony's shipments.
In anycase, concerning the discrepancy, it appears both Sony and Nintendo split up their shipments. 125k on launch day and another 125k before 'black' Friday would mave ~ 250k units ships for Sony, and ~500k on launch day and another ~500k before Friday for Wii would make 1 million shipped.
It is plausible both companies may infact have ~250k and ~1million units respectively in the supply chain on launch day, buth only about half were actually sold to consumers. So they kept their word, sorta.
Here's my comment for this thread. Sony continually missing their promised targets is going to hurt their credebility with gamers and with the business community from retailers up to the money people. from 400k down to 280k (i guestimated 300k last weekend) is not good news.
In anycase, concerning the discrepancy, it appears both Sony and Nintendo split up their shipments. 125k on launch day and another 125k before 'black' Friday would mave ~ 250k units ships for Sony, and ~500k on launch day and another ~500k before Friday for Wii would make 1 million shipped.
It is plausible both companies may infact have ~250k and ~1million units respectively in the supply chain on launch day, buth only about half were actually sold to consumers. So they kept their word, sorta.
Here's my comment for this thread. Sony continually missing their promised targets is going to hurt their credebility with gamers and with the business community from retailers up to the money people. from 400k down to 280k (i guestimated 300k last weekend) is not good news.
Rhazer Fusion
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Wasn't Sony talking about 1 million by the end of the year? At this rate they are doing good for 400,000.
Crackerman16
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People should realize by now. Sony, Nintendo, and MS uses the media and word of mouth craze during system launches as a huge marketing scheme to promote their new consoles... almost for free:
1. Create buzz and promise a decent launch number.
2. Cut shimpent number by around half (whether intential or not), thus creating a shortage on supply, when people expect much more (demand).
3. Watch as the media's coverage (commercials) on people camping out for that "hot, new system that everyone wants, but can't get."
4. Ship more systems a week or two later, after eBay has worked it's magic, boosting the "street value" of your system by several times it's original price... so that you don't piss off TOO many people that can't/won't pay ridiculous eBay prices and actually want to buy the system to play and not sell.
5. Laugh at "analysts," newspaper writers, the media in general, and forum users as they squabble over your initial launch numbers like they actually mean something. :lol
1. Create buzz and promise a decent launch number.
2. Cut shimpent number by around half (whether intential or not), thus creating a shortage on supply, when people expect much more (demand).
3. Watch as the media's coverage (commercials) on people camping out for that "hot, new system that everyone wants, but can't get."
4. Ship more systems a week or two later, after eBay has worked it's magic, boosting the "street value" of your system by several times it's original price... so that you don't piss off TOO many people that can't/won't pay ridiculous eBay prices and actually want to buy the system to play and not sell.
5. Laugh at "analysts," newspaper writers, the media in general, and forum users as they squabble over your initial launch numbers like they actually mean something. :lol
I don't think Nintendo and Sony cut their final stated (or unstated) shipments. It just got split up in the channel.
Worth noting that when Nintendo ships their next batch (well they already shipped it as its friday) they would have just hit their 6th day on the market, less than a week.
Next monday will probably be PR proclaiming 800k to 1 million in 1 week or something to that extent, a major feat under any circumstances if they hit that mark, and I think they will.
Worth noting that when Nintendo ships their next batch (well they already shipped it as its friday) they would have just hit their 6th day on the market, less than a week.
Next monday will probably be PR proclaiming 800k to 1 million in 1 week or something to that extent, a major feat under any circumstances if they hit that mark, and I think they will.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Going by the situation locally, even 125,000 seems a little high. There were supposedly 500,000 360s at launch, and stores that had 150 360s had less than 35 PS3s. Stores that had 50 360s had around 10 PS3s. The nearest K-Mart had 30 360s, and 0 PS3s. The stores that had 20 360s or less all seemed to have 0, too.