Would you be all that surprised to hear of Perfect Dark coming back with a focus on spy/gadgetry, with a game and TV series? With ways to watch and play on any device.
I think ValueAct is behind this. They're either airing Microsoft's dirty laundry in order to get what they want (the elimination of the ED division) or they're lying to get what they want.
I would be utterly shocked if they thought that was a good idea.
Even if it had a production like Alias? In any case, it's just about building exclusive characters/IP that get people to a cross-platform service.
I think you're underestimating how expensive that would be to do, and the likelihood it would flop. There's nothing about the Perfect Dark IP that makes me think it could become a hit TV series.
Eh what? Is this revisionist history or something? HD-DVD never caught on. Blue ray is nearly the standard now (Regular DVD still exists...).Blu Ray never caught on and the physical media market is shrinking fast thanks to streaming services.
I would argue that bolded part right there because of the Steam Machine....saying you are not trying to enter then console market and then putting out a console-esque product conflicts itself. I see the Steam Machine as a console regardless or what Valve wants to say. The only difference is that they are giving OEM's the ability to make them and also affording users the same luxury. But I fully expect them to make it so it's almost dumb not to buy the Valve version.It will be subsidized.
Isn't Sony in more financial trouble than the xbox/entertainment div at MS? The playstation is the only that sells
well
Isn't Sony in more financial trouble than the xbox/entertainment div at MS? The playstation is the only that sells
well
It was just an example of monetizing an IP that builds cross-platform audiences.
As for the expense of the show, assuming it builds an audience like any other show
Most new TV shows fail.
It's not going to be subsidised. I don't believe that for a second. It might be sold at a meagre profit - much like Google's Nexus line - but Valve are not going to sell their Steam Machines below cost, and Valve's partners definitely aren't going to sell their machines below cost.
Now, what is potentially interesting is that certain companies (Intel and AMD being two big possibilities) might create Steam Machine specific parts that eschew certain features in favour of lower component costs. That might allow Steam Machines to come in at lower prices than self builds at the expense of some flexibility.
And Valve never said they were entering the 'console market'. Remember, Valve thinks that the console market is going away sometime in the near future. They think that Apple/Amazon/Google/whoever. are going to effectively kill the traditional console market.
They said that their goal with SteamOS is to deliver a more streamlined, console-like experience, which is a completely different thing.
Edit - Although, it seems that you're arguing semantics here. To me, consoles mean locked down ecosystems with little to no room for hardware customisability. Steam Machines aren't going to be locked down and they are going to be customisable, which is the exact opposite of the Xbox One/PS4.
It does seem like a console to me. I do understand your point but let me ask another question. Can you play PC games on this Steam Machine without Steam? Because if not...it's locked down.
Yes, you can. You can install Windows on it if you want to, or use a completely different Linux distro. It's up to you.
I understand that but it comes with SteamOS and in that sense it's locked down.
I understand that but it comes with SteamOS and in that sense it's locked down.
I understand that but it comes with SteamOS and in that sense it's locked down.
So wait...how bad is Sony doing? I have to imagine its worse.
What? How is that locked down? Is my Macbook locked down because it comes preloaded with OSX, even though I can install Windows or Linux on it in less than 20 minutes? Is my Nexus 4 locked down because it comes with stock Android, even though I can install any number of ROMs or even other operating systems (Ubuntu, for example) on it? (Hint: The answer to both of these questions is 'no'.)
You're not making any sense.
Did we get any concrete confirmation of the claims in this article? Seems like speculation.
OK maybe locked down is the wrong wording for what I'm trying to say. But what I mean is that within the SteamOS environment software will be inclusive to that. Unless you install some other OS whether via dual boot or reformatting. So not lock down but closed software environment.
I'm still failing to see your point.
Can you install another OS on the PS4? Or the Xbox One? Can you install whatever software you like on the PS4/Xbox One? No? Then they're locked down.
Can you install another OS on Steam Machines? Any software you want, including stuff like EA's Origin and Ubisoft's whatever it's called? Yes, and yes. So it's open.
SteamOS is going to be open sourced, too, so developers can release their own modified versions of SteamOS, if they want. Never gonna see that happen with a console.
When an analyst has the following credentials:
- top-ranked software industry analyst for 20 years
- 25 year in Goldman Sachs
- point person for MS during his tenure at Goldman Sachs
- long-time friend of Bill Gates
- long-time analyst of MS from IPO till today
This does not mean he's right in absolute values, but he's not some no-name analyst making predictions on when Apple is going to announce their TV.
Eh what? Is this revisionist history or something? HD-DVD never caught on. Blue ray is nearly the standard now (Regular DVD still exists...).
Streaming vs. physical sales is an entirely different animal and I hear you can still buy vinyl if you are into it, so lets at least try to stay focused here shall we?
Shit would be bad if MS jumped out of the console race.
Blu ray beat HD-DVD, but DVD has remained the dominant "standard" format. Sony thought Bluray would overtake dvds in 3 years, which it has never come close to doing. So yeah, it didn't "catch on" the way Sony envisioned.
Ah hah. So this is where critical thinking come into play. If you believe that Sony selling the PS4 at a loss will quickly lead to a profit, then why are we so quick to believe that Microsoft is racking up huge losses on the 360?
Doesn't make sense.
Either these things make money or they don't. They all have the exact same business model give or take a service or two.
Serious question, where does the money hatting and Doritos budget from?
Where did Sony outline this plan? I'd be interested in reading up on their vision for the format. Got any links?
And Blu-Ray must be doing well enough compared to DVD seeing as in every store that stocks movies where I live (Most notably the HMV store), Blu-Rays currently have just as much shelf space as DVDs do (Bargain sections being obviously mostly DVDs still). However you slice it, it's been a hugely successful format.
ITT - people apparently knowing better than one of the most qualified tech industry analysts, because, well, they just really like playing on their Xbox.
Where did Sony outline this plan? I'd be interested in reading up on their vision for the format. Got any links?
And Blu-Ray must be doing well enough compared to DVD seeing as in every store that stocks movies where I live (Most notably the HMV store), Blu-Rays currently have just as much shelf space as DVDs do (Bargain sections being obviously mostly DVDs still). However you slice it, it's been a hugely successful format.
Seriously. The Xbox division just posted record profits last year.
Except that his numbers don't make sense at all. Again, to those defending this guy's pedigree, can you explain how ANDROID was covering the losses for Xbox when the big patent deal with Samsung was signed in 2011? So please explain to this MS fanboy how this makes sense? Especially in say 2008-2010 when Android market share was still under Iphone's market share? I can see the 2 billion making sense if you are talking over the entirety of the xbox life or even in years when there is a launch (since MS would rack up a huge cost) but say in 2009? Android sure as hell wasn't covering for Xbox then
Well his pedigree is what gives him "street cred" as it was. This guy obviously has insights and conversations with people we don't so therefore i'll take his word for it over "xdude" or whoever. It's simple as that.
.
Let me put it this way:So wait...how bad is Sony doing? I have to imagine its worse.
So wait...how bad is Sony doing? I have to imagine its worse.
Asking myself that, considering live generates an assload of money I bet