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AnandTech reviews the Intel Core i7 11700K, so how HOT is it?
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Coulomb_Barrier
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I knew you'd be here with your strange defence force of Intel. Because this series looks a right stinker, your strategy is now to try and promote the previous gen. And no, Intel 10-series are not as performant as Ryzen 5000, those CPUs are slower and less efficient across the board.
Insane Metal
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Confused why they threw this AVX-512 test in though?
That last line is a bit misleading lol
I mean, it's still worse (power wise) than their own 10th gen and about 60% more power hungry than the 5800X... while performing worse in basically everything.
Soulblighter31
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My defence force of intel ?? What are you talking about ? The 10 series is comparably just as fast in real life gaming scenarios. One game a 10900 comes on top, another the ryzen 5900. Its not a decisive and clear victory for AMD like it was for intel all these years. For other tasks, productivity and such, ryzens are better. But gaming, you cant go wrong with either of them. And if intel becomes so much more cheaper than amd, intel remains a solid option.
SupremeHoodie
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Wanted to upgrade from my 10900k. Not happening anytime soon.
OverHeat
« generous god »
Yep intel made it easy this time around sticking with my 10900kf too
PhoenixTank
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Same boat here.
I figured there would be drawbacks to the backport... but I expected there to be some advantage. I don't expect the 11900K to do much better now, but look forward to seeing how it fares all the same. Really expected it to pip Zen 3 by a few points and start the trading back and forth between the companies but if the Zen 4 rumours hold true that rather improves the outlook for AMD with all the supply issues.
I want to see how much of the die space is "wasted" on AVX-512 here. Don't know if they even could have feasibly decoupled it from the design in this backport.
Every time someone says Intel are the Value Gaming King, an Intel marketing executive dies.
So yes I know you didn't explicitly state that, and the general point you're making isn't wrong either. If Intel actually maintain lower prices on Comet Lake and keep it around that offers a very decent alternative.
Intel have spent a long time and a lot of money cultivating this premium brand image and it is starting to shatter... I wonder how long they'll keep Comet Lake around for. They'd rather sell the new chips at higher prices, y'know?
Insane Metal
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I'm sure their 10nm Core CPUs will kick some serious ass, but this one... ouch. 14nm is done.
DonJuanSchlong
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You never miss a beat to throw a jab at NVIDIA. Come onThere might be a trend that we missed.
Consuming more power = good, perhaps?
1000W edition of 3090: (actually achieves 630W)
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llien
Su. This isn't even about Nvidia. No need to shill for mommy Su right now.
Vae_Victis
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Is this the CPU they will use in the KFC console? The temperature sounds about right for cooking chicken.
smbu2000
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Not normal usage, that is just Intels official listing for the base clock TDP. What it consumes is still fairly high. I can only imagine what the i9 will do in terms of heat/actual TDP usage.
From the article(non-AVX load, POV-RAY):
At idle, the CPU is consuming under 20 W while touching 30ºC. When the workload kicks in after 200 seconds or so, the power consumption rises very quickly to the 200-225 W band. This motherboard implements the ‘infinite turbo’ strategy, and so we get a sustained 200-225 W for over 10 minutes. Through this time, our CPU peaks at 81ºC, which is fairly reasonable for some of the best air cooling on the market. During this test, a sustained 4.6 GHz was on all cores.
llien
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To help people figure the right power supply perhaps.
prag16
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Both things can be true. I am happy with my 10600k purchase at $194 and it is a better deal than the AMD alternatives at MSRP. AND the 11xxx series is kind of looking like a turd. Oh well.
IntentionalPun
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Not questioning the test itself; it just sticks our like a sore thumb in that chart as it's apples to oranges.
llien
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I'd agree with you had they skipped AVX2 test for the exact same CPU in exact same chart.
Omnipunctual Godot
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Emulators? As in console emulation?
GHG
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Emulators run very well on modern AMD Cpu's, you needn't worry.
thelastword
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It wont be funny anymore when AMD goes to 5nm and 3nm........Even 2nm.....Things are going to get downright silly...
AMD is so ahead of the curve, glad to see what innovation and a customer focused product brings.......And remember before AMD's dominance with Ryzen, all we heard was that beating Intel was a pipe dream....Same will happen to Nvidia who are hiding and making lots of noise behind the proprietary RTX cloud...
Interestingly; amongst the PC tech media, power consumption of GPU's and CPU's is not such a hot topic anymore....
AMD is so ahead of the curve, glad to see what innovation and a customer focused product brings.......And remember before AMD's dominance with Ryzen, all we heard was that beating Intel was a pipe dream....Same will happen to Nvidia who are hiding and making lots of noise behind the proprietary RTX cloud...
Interestingly; amongst the PC tech media, power consumption of GPU's and CPU's is not such a hot topic anymore....
Unknown Soldier
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Emulation is fine on AMD these days. The emulator devs didn't take that long to figure out how to optimize for the chiplets and CCX core arrangements.
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Armorian
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On 5600x and 5800x emulation works like on Intel CPUs basically, super low latency between cores. But with RCPS3 for example Intel still has advantage of TSX instructions
I think Intel will have very hard time to catch up to AMD if Arden isn't the 8th wonder of the world (which I doubt) but don't be silly with Nvidia, they will stay ahead or about the same (like right now in raster).
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Armorian
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For Arden Lake? Way more sense than for this CPU line up for sure.
llien
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Curious, that you said that.
Core to Core latency:
Things changed quite a bit over time.
i7 11700k is basically where Zen2 was.
Zen3 halved that time on top of introducing 8 core chiplets.
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Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
10700 and 10850 stay winning.
At their prices they are the best bet.
At their prices they are the best bet.
Dream-Knife
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Why?
nkarafo
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Because i can't afford building a new PC more often that that.
Armorian
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Curious, that you said that.
Core to Core latency:
Things changed quite a bit over time.
i7 11700k is basically where Zen2 was.
Zen3 halved that time on top of introducing 8 core chiplets.
Z2 was much worse...
10700k
Dream-Knife
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Why would you need to? 6 core isn't going anywhere.
llien
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At what?
At 1080p 5600x beats 10700.
10700 is about 7% ahead of 5600x in multi-core scenarios, despite having 2 more cores.
5600x is 12% ahead of 10700 in single core scenarios.
Both cost roughly the same, mainboards are more expensive on blue side,
10700 consumes 63% more (!!!) at full load than 5600 (10800 101% more)
computerbase
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
The 10700 is cheaper than the 5600X where am at by more than cost of the sizeable cooler i would need.
All steel legends are the same price so MB cost differences are nonexistant.
I mean i would still opt for the cheapest CPU right now cuz paying for an imperceptible gain makes no sense ill be GPU bound anyway and going DDR5 by the time either CPU shows signs of holding me back.
If i could find a discount 5800X Id jump no doubt.
<----Is getting a 5800X anyway just waiting for local stock.
P.S Cant get passed the paywall/adwall on your link.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Just bought a 5800x. Bye Intel.
Elektro Demon
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There's a time when beating a dead horse should stop. I think that time is now.
llien
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YMMV, but in DE, it's like 15 Euro difference.
5600X comes with a Stealth Wraith cooler.
Strange. Here are the relevant benchmarks:
Roman Empire
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Are Intel just refurbishing more shit and selling as new? PCI-e 4 is good and all, but isn't PCI-e 5 coming soon? Won't this be outdated on arrival? This is embarrassing!
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Deleted member 17706
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Intel can straight up fuck off with this one. You just don't go backwards in core count...
Armorian
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And core latency
StateofMajora
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Think about console exclusives that will be 30fps and work those 8 zen 2 cores hard.
I can’t imagine the 5600x lasting the whole generation. Though it’s the best bang for buck atm, and almost as good as 5950x in games today, it won’t always be that way.
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cyen
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And gaming performance.
Dream-Knife
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Games above 1080p are more GPU dependent. The PS4 and XB1 also had 8 cores. Console exclusives will be 30 fps because they're going for 4k, RT, and other superficial things that make the game look slightly better. None of that really has anything to do with the CPU.
5600x is also much higher performance than whats in the new consoles. I think you'll be fine with a $300 cpu competing against $500 consoles.
StateofMajora
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8 shitty mobile cores, not the same scenario. Once games really tax the CPUs on pc it’ll be harder to get really high frame rates. It’s absolutely possible a 30fps game on consoles will max out the CPUs, with physics or whatever else.
Also, I really don’t think the 5600x is any better than 16 fully saturated zen 2 threads, at least zen 2 on pc. worse in some loads probably.
Either way, 5600x won’t get 60fps on a 30fps cpu limited console game.
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Dream-Knife
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I guess you'd have to find a cpu limited game to test that out on. That hasn't been a thing since Crysis though.
Maddux4164
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No need to upgrade my 4670k then.
Armorian
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Oh you definitely need to upgrade and both 10 gen Intel and Zen 3 are v. good options.
Look for 4690k results....
Maddux4164
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Nah. Was being sarcastic. Definitely need to upgrade hahaha
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