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Andrew Garfield is the new Spider-Man
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Organic Shooter debate? TIME WARP
Always thought a nice compromise would be that he emits some special sauce from his wrists that he's able to use through mechanical shooters he designs (maybe adding a catalyst or some shit, who cares).
Always thought a nice compromise would be that he emits some special sauce from his wrists that he's able to use through mechanical shooters he designs (maybe adding a catalyst or some shit, who cares).
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I'm straight but this man is beautiful.
Where da coming out thread at?
Where da coming out thread at?
MadraptorMan
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I think organic web shooters are way better than mechanical ones, though I have to admit that this placement makes more sense:
msv said:
It's logical enough. Parker is a skinny, nerdy, bullied kid who gets super powers. Stan Lee just made him some high school kid because he wanted him to be more "normal" and relatable than your other typical heroes of the time, especially since he knew many kids were reading his work. Batman is a billionare who had the physique of a body-builder before he ever put on a suit to fight crime, as well as deductive capabilities and general intellect far beyond that of the average joe.
Decided to make a cutout, just for fun. Was sort of a pain in the ass but a decent job and a good time waster project (click for hi-res).
Plus, some avatars came out of it, call if you want.
http://i54.tinypic.com/2e4gajo.jpg[IMG][/s]
Is it confirmed that Lizard is gonna be the enemy here? I mean, those scars on his suit and face look lizard induced to me.
[QUOTE=mrkgoo]He,s holding some thing red made of the same costume material, and your first conclusion is the belt? I mean, not his...mask?[/QUOTE]
:lol No I thought of that as a given, but if there's a removable belt I thought that's what it may be. :p
[QUOTE=uncledonnie]Is this true? I haven't read the comic in several years but I could have sworn they retconned this at some point to give him organic web shooters, along with these weird Wolverine-style stingers.[/QUOTE]
I mean as a series, like the utlimate spider-man, amazing spider-man, spectacular etc etc, none of them have a organic shooters as an ability from the get-go. But nice find, I didn't remember that!
[QUOTE=PhoncipleBone][IMG]http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/110113/ON_SET/leary-sm4-set_360.jpg[IMG]
Pic of Denis Leary on set.[/QUOTE]
Oh my god. Is that tommy from Rescue Me? No fucking way. :o I read the name but I guess I didn't realize who that really was.
Plus, some avatars came out of it, call if you want.
Is it confirmed that Lizard is gonna be the enemy here? I mean, those scars on his suit and face look lizard induced to me.
[QUOTE=mrkgoo]He,s holding some thing red made of the same costume material, and your first conclusion is the belt? I mean, not his...mask?[/QUOTE]
:lol No I thought of that as a given, but if there's a removable belt I thought that's what it may be. :p
[QUOTE=uncledonnie]Is this true? I haven't read the comic in several years but I could have sworn they retconned this at some point to give him organic web shooters, along with these weird Wolverine-style stingers.[/QUOTE]
I mean as a series, like the utlimate spider-man, amazing spider-man, spectacular etc etc, none of them have a organic shooters as an ability from the get-go. But nice find, I didn't remember that!
[QUOTE=PhoncipleBone][IMG]http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/110113/ON_SET/leary-sm4-set_360.jpg[IMG]
Pic of Denis Leary on set.[/QUOTE]
Oh my god. Is that tommy from Rescue Me? No fucking way. :o I read the name but I guess I didn't realize who that really was.
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Great scene. Makes me laugh every time.Gui_PT said:And then he had to take the elevator
I know what you're talking about, but taking away his intellect is going the complete opposite. Then he's just a normal kid with spider powers. Peter Parker needs that extra oomph of his genius, otherwise seeing him as a superhero isn't impressive at all.Zeliard said:
edit: Just wanted to add. They could have pulled off the normal kid angle in the SM movies. But they didn't manage. Instead they kept him as an unassertive, goofy, clumsy kid. There should have been more redeeming qualities in his personality/intellect.
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msv said:
This makes absolutely no sense at all. They portrayed him really well as a normal nerdy kid in the first movie...they had the typical nerdy personality and mannerisms down really well. Not to mention his genius came out in the 2nd movie with his interactions with Doc Oc
Just because he spoke some smarty words does mean he came off intelligent. I think it was a bit forced in that respect really. In general, there werent many hints of his intellect especially in the way he handled his enemies. Nothing he did came off as "clever".Zoramon089 said:
Like during the final fight in Spiderman 2. He unplugs the machine and nothing happens then hes pretty much stumped. THIS is supposed to be a genius?
BAH! Humbug...
Littleberu
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.GqueB. said:
It's Spiderman. He's like that. He's awkward and clumsy. But he's super smart, hence the mechanical web shooter.
If Peter is some super genius, why isn't he raking in the big bucks as a scientist/inventor instead of scrounging a living with a working class salary? would say the everyman persona Peter typifies is just as important if not more than the "super genius" factor and one of things Raimi got right.
.GqueB. said:
I blamed it on Tobey. He always has that "Hurr durr, derp derp" expression on his face. I couldn't stand it then and still can't stand it now. He wouldn't be convincing as an intelligent Petey. Thus, I can excuse Raimi turning him a biological webshooter instead of one who invented his own mechanical one. I especially couldn't stand his face on the 3rd film.
richiek said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this a "secret identity" factor?
I.e. he invented the webbing, but he obviously can't sell the webbing or the shooter technology. He can't just go work for a research lab without credentials, so he makes what money he can selling pictures of Spider-Man to the Daily Bugle.
I don't know Spidey-continuity very well and the whole Mephisto thing has probably made it more ridiculous and confusing, but I assume Parker graduated from Empire State at some point? Or did he have to quit?
I mean, if he's going to maintain his secret identity it would make sense to have him as a research guy by day at some point... oh wait, he did reveal his secret identity... Oh wait, thanks to the devil he didn't.
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Replicant said:
I think his face was the worst when he was stopping the train in Spiderman 2. The whole time it just looks awkward and I couldn't help but think "I'm seeing Tobey's sex face, aren't I?" In fact, it reminds me of the mask removals that seemed to increase as the trilogy went on so that the actors could get more "face time", which I really disliked.
Anyway, I kind of prefer organic shooters. It's the thing I think of that makes him Spiderman and I would rather it be an inherent ability because of that.
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richiek said:
He does partake in many researches with his college, and later with Stark Industries.
Don't forget that there's also the low self esteem he has a regular human being. It impacts his potential a lot.
electroshockwave said:
Yikes. I've already forgotten about that and now I remember why I have this "not sure if I like the 2nd film or not" feeling but I knew that there was something in it that bothers me. Now I remember what that thing that I didn't like. It's his face during the train scene.
Conrad Link
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Any time we fall down something in a game or whatever me and my brother still use "Out of web cartridges!!" *falls* from the 90s Spider-Man lol. Such a great series.
I was talking about the movie version. His intelligence was never really apparent and was very forced. He was only considered smart because he said smart stuff sometimes but he never came off as "clever". It was always annoying.Littleberu said:
I wanted to see him figure out how to defeat his enemies in clever ways not just say things that sounded intelligent when he had his mask off.
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It hasn't aged well. The last Spidey cartoon was so much better.Conrad Link said:
faceless007
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electroshockwave said:
Don't forget the scene where he's running across the roof to try to make a jump because his powers aren't working.
Byakuya769
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costume reminds me of Spider-Man 2099. I like it... now can we ensure that Spider-Man is a smart ass in this film?
Oh shit.. the material of the costume is almost exactly like SM 2099 in shattered dimensions;Byakuya769 said:
I really hope the eyes are not that drastic of a change.
Also, I just read two plot summary leaks of the movie (maybe real who knows), and I hate the idea that there is no build up to Parker becoming Spider-Man. No bite, no nothing. Oh, and I hate flashbacks. :lol
Well I wasn't the only one who thought you were talking about the character in general, hence you editing your post to clarify. Just a misunderstanding, nothing wrong with me..GqueB. said:
Sentry said:
Do we really need it though? Raimi's first Spidey film came out only nine years ago, everyone knows how Peter becomes Spider-Man. Why waste time on re-establishing the origin when it's still very fresh in people's minds? Besides, I don't look forward to the inevitable comparisons between Raimi's way of showing the origin and Webb's way of showing it.
If they choose to go the route of Peter already being Spider-Man at the beginning of the film, then I think that's great. I'd prefer they jump right to the ass-kicking
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Sentry said:
i can't un see the vagina on 2099's forehead.
Agreed. I was gonna ask if anyone had any solid details on that. Is this another origin story or are they gonna jump to a more established point in his career.Dabanton said:
I really loved Tim Burtons Batman for this. Jump right into it and sprinkle the origin story in there as flashbacks. I really dont wanna sit through him getting bitten by a spider again.
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Zeliard said:
I thought it was just because organic webshooters are easier to deal with in a 2 hour movie, as opposed to a comic book/cartoon series.
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richiek said:
This is a reoccurring plot in the comics. Basically, the fact that Peter is constantly having to flake on people, and bail on responsibilities to go be Spider-Man wrecks all his personal relationships and makes it hard for him to hold down a stable career.
Ugh, I see what you'er saying but I still hate that to hell. We need to see him become Spider-Man, from normal kid to whatever. I really don't want to see him as he was in flashbacks alone. :\Loxley said:Do we really need it though? Raimi's first Spidey film came out only nine years ago, everyone knows how Peter becomes Spider-Man. Why waste time on re-establishing the origin when it's still very fresh in people's minds? Besides, I don't look forward to the inevitable comparisons between Raimi's way of showing the origin and Webb's way of showing it.
If they choose to go the route of Peter already being Spider-Man at the beginning of the film, then I think that's great. I'd prefer they jump right to the ass-kicking
Anyway, the plot leaks say they opening credits will be 'watchman-esq' whatever that means, and the first scene of the movie will be;
Uncle Ben approaches the burglar in his home. Uncle Ben confronts him and they exchange dialogue. Ben says it was fate that brought them together. The burglar shoots Ben.
Credits Roll
Credits Roll
And the leaks seem like there is no build up to the Lizard either, which sucks as well. Oh well, we'll see how this turns out. Even if it's real, who knows how it'll be handled all-together..
Yeah, but the rest.. not so much. Seems too fast, but maybe it's not a well rounded summary.Mr. Sam said:
I just feel like going on blackout, I mean, 2012 is fucking far away. Anyone know what quarter it'll even be released? Once I see a trailer (and subsequently, the mask) i'm out.
They seemed to try to make it Twilightiesque + Batman detective cross-over with the treatment. It completelly deranges me of what to think about Spiderman I know. This one is little different. I think so.Sentry said:
In the treatment, Peter is already the Spiderman. No power discovery events.
He investigates unsolved crimes of NYPD and uses his smart-skills. His parent's were "spies". Lot's of flashbacks about them and a discovery. Osborn makes an introduction and plays a small role in the plot.
Something reminded me of Twilight in Gwen's and Peter's interactions. Probably just the consistency of the scenes, with Chief dad and all.
Lizard seem's pretty underused villain. Like those "realistic and grim" with no sole purpose.
Lizard's background is investigated by Peter.He smuggles his project papers from the company Connor worked for and uses obtained police reports. Pete comes up with an antidote to cure Lizard.
He investigates unsolved crimes of NYPD and uses his smart-skills. His parent's were "spies". Lot's of flashbacks about them and a discovery. Osborn makes an introduction and plays a small role in the plot.
Something reminded me of Twilight in Gwen's and Peter's interactions. Probably just the consistency of the scenes, with Chief dad and all.
Lizard seem's pretty underused villain. Like those "realistic and grim" with no sole purpose.
Lizard's background is investigated by Peter.He smuggles his project papers from the company Connor worked for and uses obtained police reports. Pete comes up with an antidote to cure Lizard.
Sentry said:
Has the plot for this leaked? I didn't catch it.
Could you post or link please?
EDIT - Ahh, I found it. Seems fairly plausible but I'm not sure about these 'bloody' fight scenes with The Lizard.
I have feeling that this Spiderman film will be more 'lo-fi' than people are expecting. And I certainly don't see it being some bloody, violent film either.
We shall see.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=25441676&postcount=946 pretty much all you need to know about the leaks.Busty said:
OR
http://www.shadowlocked.com/201012191155/news/spiderman-reboot-treatment-leak.html
For more fleshed out document.
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