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Android Hardware Thread - 2010 Edition

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terrdactycalsrock said:
okay guys i dont know anything about cell phones but since i just started a decent steady job i would like to have a smart phone but my problem is that i live about 30 minutes away from where i get cell singles but i am in town a lot so i could use it there but my big question is that are android operated phones good multimedia devices i know i can store all of my music on them but can i buy a car adapter so i can listen to it in my car? also how is the android marketplace since i ve never had a smart phone i dont know what to think of apps so are their usful ones is the market place updated regulerly? and my final question is sorta personal but i would like to know how much i can expect my monthly bill to run me and if i buy the phone and i know that on certian phones you can spend the extra cash and buy it out right does that mean i wouldent have a monthly bill or does it mean than i just get to pick my carrier?
Take a breath, my friend. :D

That's a lot of questions, and only a few are on topic for this thread. Don't worry, those phones aren't going anywhere. You can take a few weeks to get up to speed on all that stuff. I'd recommend that you read this thread, and the Android software thread, from beginning to end. After you are done, you will find that most of your questions have been answered, and you'll have some brand new ones!
 
Ok finally read the engadget review, I'm surprise by their camera review because some reviews and impressions says its so-so. Also, most of the negative remarks came from "blur" ui. I don't care about the social stuff but I do like evo4g's weather app (saw my coworker's).
Froyo Ui for this phone? I'm not gonna hold my breath in rooting this phone and installing a custom rom
 
No idea why Engadget didn't even talk about call quality on the Droid X. They mention this in all their phone reviews...
 
terrdactycalsrock said:
okay guys i dont know anything about cell phones but since i just started a decent steady job i would like to have a smart phone

Ok, no problem there, everyone loves smartphones these days. good for all kinds of things.

but my problem is that i live about 30 minutes away from where i get cell singles

I assume you mean a cellphone signal? Where the hell are you that the closest cell tower is a half an hour away? :lol I'd check the websites of each of the four major carriers (assuming you're in the US) to make SURE you absolutely have no signal in your location- verizon has the best coverage, but sprint does offer a device that creates a miniature cell tower in your residence if you're truly in a zero reception situation. The other carriers may offer something similar. Failing that, you could also use most phones with Wi-Fi, but some apps will only work over cell networks.

but i am in town a lot so i could use it there but my big question is that are android operated phones good multimedia devices

most of the mid to high end phones do make good multimedia devices- most take microSD cards as storage, so you're looking at somewhere from 8 to 32 gigs of space to hold your media, depending on what you want to spend. there are plenty of options to play back media that work well also- you're not stuck using what the phone comes with.

i know i can store all of my music on them but can i buy a car adapter so i can listen to it in my car?

sure

also how is the android marketplace since i ve never had a smart phone i dont know what to think of apps so are their usful ones is the market place updated regulerly?

the marketplace is a collection of individual applications, some free, some cost money. They're updated on an ongoing basis/as necessary by the developers of the applications- there isn't a single "update day" as with PSN, for instance. The marketplace has well over 50,000 apps by this point, so chances are if it exists, you can find the app for it.

and my final question is sorta personal but i would like to know how much i can expect my monthly bill to run me and if i buy the phone and i know that on certian phones you can spend the extra cash and buy it out right does that mean i wouldent have a monthly bill or does it mean than i just get to pick my carrier?

of the 4 major carriers, sprint and t mobile are the cheapest, but have the poorest coverage nationwide. if you're in the sticks, these may not be an option. Sprint's plans start at around $59.99 or so and go up from there. Tmobile has similar plans, but the phones aren't subsidized if you do this- what this means is you pay the full price of the phone up front (usually 3-4 hundred dollars for a smartphone) and your monthly bill is slightly cheaper. there is NO option where you will not have a monthly bill for a
smartphone.

If you're in the EU or otherwise overseas, you may be able to pick your carrier. if you're in the US- sorry, usually not possible. Sprint and verizon use something called CDMA, and their phones are not compatible with each other's networks, nor are they compatible with AT&T or Tmobile, who use something called GSM. there are SOME phones (an unlocked iphone, the nexus one) that will support both at&t and tmobile, but you may lose functionality.
 
Andrex said:
I don't know, I wouldn't doubt it. Dell seems to be going all-out.

Given the choice, would you want the screen to be bigger, or smaller? How unwieldy is it to make calls on it?

Oh lordy, the screen is far enough. The whole body of the HD2 can fit inside the screen of the Streak. I've made two calls on it already, and it did seem a bit unwieldy to use. That could be because I've never held a slab of radioactive plastic to me head this large before. However, I can see myself getting used to it, b/c it's becoming more pocket-able.

size comparisons:
IMG_0203.jpg
 
Sorry if this has been covered already, but what's the latest on 2.2/froyo for the Moto Droid?
 
Hey guys do you think the HTC Wildfire is worth getting? I understand it's a significantly weaker device, but I'm low on money, and just want to upgrade lol. I currently have a nokia N95. So should I bother with the Wildfire, or should I just save up for a few months and get a Desire or something?
 
Ultimatum said:
Hey guys do you think the HTC Wildfire is worth getting? I understand it's a significantly weaker device, but I'm low on money, and just want to upgrade lol. I currently have a nokia N95. So should I bother with the Wildfire, or should I just save up for a few months and get a Desire or something?

I'd save my money. The Wildfire/Aria won't be getting Gingerbread if the leaked requirements are to be believed.
 
Ultimatum said:
Hey guys do you think the HTC Wildfire is worth getting? I understand it's a significantly weaker device, but I'm low on money, and just want to upgrade lol. I currently have a nokia N95. So should I bother with the Wildfire, or should I just save up for a few months and get a Desire or something?

I'd save your cash until you can get something a little higher end. in 3 months you'll be able to grab something with twice the specs for the same amount of cash, I'm sure
 
Manmademan said:
Ok, no problem there, everyone loves smartphones these days. good for all kinds of things.



I assume you mean a cellphone signal? Where the hell are you that the closest cell tower is a half an hour away? :lol I'd check the websites of each of the four major carriers (assuming you're in the US) to make SURE you absolutely have no signal in your location- verizon has the best coverage, but sprint does offer a device that creates a miniature cell tower in your residence if you're truly in a zero reception situation. The other carriers may offer something similar. Failing that, you could also use most phones with Wi-Fi, but some apps will only work over cell networks.



most of the mid to high end phones do make good multimedia devices- most take microSD cards as storage, so you're looking at somewhere from 8 to 32 gigs of space to hold your media, depending on what you want to spend. there are plenty of options to play back media that work well also- you're not stuck using what the phone comes with.



sure



the marketplace is a collection of individual applications, some free, some cost money. They're updated on an ongoing basis/as necessary by the developers of the applications- there isn't a single "update day" as with PSN, for instance. The marketplace has well over 50,000 apps by this point, so chances are if it exists, you can find the app for it.



of the 4 major carriers, sprint and t mobile are the cheapest, but have the poorest coverage nationwide. if you're in the sticks, these may not be an option. Sprint's plans start at around $59.99 or so and go up from there. Tmobile has similar plans, but the phones aren't subsidized if you do this- what this means is you pay the full price of the phone up front (usually 3-4 hundred dollars for a smartphone) and your monthly bill is slightly cheaper. there is NO option where you will not have a monthly bill for a
smartphone.

If you're in the EU or otherwise overseas, you may be able to pick your carrier. if you're in the US- sorry, usually not possible. Sprint and verizon use something called CDMA, and their phones are not compatible with each other's networks, nor are they compatible with AT&T or Tmobile, who use something called GSM. there are SOME phones (an unlocked iphone, the nexus one) that will support both at&t and tmobile, but you may lose functionality.

It's actually well on its way to 90,000 :P And there have already been 715+ apps released in July, and July 1st isn't even over yet :lol

http://www.androlib.com/appstats.aspx
 
You guys do realize that some apps are complete garbage. Quantity does not mean anything, those 715 were most likely stupid asian girl pics.
 
Zozz said:
You guys do realize that some apps are complete garbage. Quantity does not mean anything, those 715 were most likely stupid asian girl pics.

Same as Apple advertising the fact they have over 1.5 million or w/e. Are all of theirs great quality too?
 
hermit7 said:
Same as Apple advertising the fact they have over 1.5 million or w/e. Are all of theirs great quality too?
I didn't make the comparison to Apple now did I? Same reason applies though.
 
Zozz said:
I didn't make the comparison to Apple now did I? Same reason applies though.

There are plenty of great apps on both. The fact that matters is that they both have excellent support compared to other smartphone OS. (RIM, WebOS)
 
Everyone concerned about the MotoBlur that isn't MotoBlur on Droid X I have two words for you - Launcher Pro.

Problem solved. It will be installed day one and I'll be :D :D :D
 
hermit7 said:
There are plenty of great apps on both. The fact that matters is that they both have excellent support compared to other smartphone OS. (RIM, WebOS)

right. it should be obvious to anyone sane that all 90,000+ (or whatever the number is these days) apps aren't all going to be AAA quality, useful, fairly priced, or all three.

but what it DOES mean is that with a large enough pool to choose from, the odds of a specific application being on the store will be reasonably high, as are updates, etc. The store is busy and actively being updated. which is what he was asking for.
 
womp said:
Everyone concerned about the MotoBlur that isn't MotoBlur on Droid X I have two words for you - Launcher Pro.

Problem solved. It will be installed day one and I'll be :D :D :D
wat is Launcher Pro, and how will that fix the problem?
 
bathala said:
wat is Launcher Pro, and how will that fix the problem?

Because it turns your Android UI into sweet awesomeness - It's the stock Google Android UI on steroids and 1000% better than anything these companies like to bath all over their phones.
 
womp said:
Everyone concerned about the MotoBlur that isn't MotoBlur on Droid X I have two words for you - Launcher Pro.

Problem solved. It will be installed day one and I'll be :D :D :D
As far as I know, Launcher Pro isn't available on most Motoblur phones due to the phones being on Cupcake still.
 
womp said:
Because it turns your Android UI into sweet awesomeness - It's the stock Google Android UI on steroids and 1000% better than anything these companies like to bath all over their phones.
so if I press in the middle of the screen I don't have to see that motorola widget option?
gonna check utube see it has an overview vid
 
According to a member of the Android team (Dan Morill) that rumor about Gingerbread's requirements is fake too.

However, he didn't say anything about the rumor that the team is "laser-focused" on the UI... ;)
 
QuiteWhittle said:
As far as I know, Launcher Pro isn't available on most Motoblur phones due to the phones being on Cupcake still.

Right but I'm referring to Droid X which isn't. hehe.

bathala said:
so if I press in the middle of the screen I don't have to see that motorola widget option?
gonna check utube see it has an overview vid

No, it's a totally new launcher that is laid over top with the option to choose between each or set one or the other as the default.
 
I don't see much talk about the captivate, but us poor AT&T folks don't have much to look forward to other than that. My wife has gotten wind of the iPhone 4 reception issues, has seen what my N1 can do, and is actually asking about an Android phone, but I really don't know enough about Samsung Touchwiz or the Captivate to make an informed recommendation to her. I know she would love FB integration into her home screen, so Touchwiz might actually be a plus for her if it means the FB experience is better than it is on the iPhone.

As it is, the FB app that I use on my N1 is garbage compared to the iPhone version. Is the Samsung version the same app re-skinned into a more useable widget or is it a better app with better functionality?
 
womp said:
Right but I'm referring to Droid X which isn't. hehe.



No, it's a totally new launcher that is laid over top with the option to choose between each or set one or the other as the default.
yah saw some launcher vids including adw

well there goes my Blur worry :D
 
bathala said:
yah saw some launcher vids including adw

well there goes my Blur worry :D

ADW and Launcher Pro are both well done and hotly contested over which is better than the other but it really just comes down to personal opinion.

Try them both and see what you think, either way you can't go wrong but for me...Launcher Pro. ;)
 
Think the X pre-orders will open back up before launch? My 30 day phone "trial" ends a week after the launch, think I will get one? :D

(I know none of you can predict the future)
 
So, are there any new AWS Android phones coming out soon aside from the Motorola and Samsung ones? I'm waiting to see if the Desire/Incredible are coming to T-Mo but it doesn't look like it's happening anytime soon :(
 
Hey smart phone people. I am thinking about getting into this whole thing, but I have a few questions.

First, I am in Australia, so the only phones we have are probably years older than Europe or the US. But if anyone could make some basic recommendation anyway that would be awesome.

My main concern in a phone these days is size. I need a phone that does not need a bluetooth headset or anything, and I think the 3.2" screens are pretty good for me, but the newer phones all seem to be going bigger. I have been looking at the HTC Legend, but I have been looking for a bit and it seems like the advice is always 'wait for the new phone by this company'.

I guess my questions are just are there any better options than the HTC in a small form factor, and are there any killer phones coming out soon in a similar size that are worth waiting for?
 
Dead Man said:
Hey smart phone people. I am thinking about getting into this whole thing, but I have a few questions.

First, I am in Australia, so the only phones we have are probably years older than Europe or the US. But if anyone could make some basic recommendation anyway that would be awesome.

My main concern in a phone these days is size. I need a phone that does not need a bluetooth headset or anything, and I think the 3.2" screens are pretty good for me, but the newer phones all seem to be going bigger. I have been looking at the HTC Legend, but I have been looking for a bit and it seems like the advice is always 'wait for the new phone by this company'.

I guess my questions are just are there any better options than the HTC in a small form factor, and are there any killer phones coming out soon in a similar size that are worth waiting for?
I read yesterday that the nexus one had just been released in australia...or is going to release soon.

Here:
http://phandroid.com/2010/07/01/nexus-one-launches-in-australia-through-vodafone/
 
I just checked my order history on amazon to find out how long ago I bought my Blackberry 8320 and it turns out that I bought it on August 2008 with a two year service plan which means that it's just about time for an upgrade.

I decided to check up on new phones and the android market is looking pretty amazing at the moment. My choice is probably going to be between the Motorola DROID A855 Android Phone, or the HTC incredible. I'm leaning towards the HTC just because of the nice little extras the 2.1 firmware/software is offering.

Now my questions...

#1
When I decided to check the service plans for the phones I thought I could go the cheap route , but there is some sort of "requirement" called "Unlimited PDA/Smartphone Web Browsing and Email" that is already $29.99/month aside from the standard $39.99 charge. When I saw these phones I was hoping that they wouldn't be so expensive, but at this rate I'll be paying over $80 a month for just this phone compared to $56 on my current plan. Is there any way to make the whole experience just a bit cheaper for bums like me?

#2
I've read up a bit and I understand the basic idea of third party apps and the functions that they bring to the table. What new apps are available at the moment? Is the market pretty expensive? What kinds of features outside of GPS are there? How does tethering work and where can I buy it on the market?

I'd be eternally grateful to anyone who can answer some of my questions. I read the OP, but I'm just not much of a phone guy(I prefer computers, laptops and all that good stuff) and some answers might help me understand more quickly.

thanks
 
tabsina said:
shame, if I had known it was coming a month ago when I bought the desire, I would have held out for the Nexus One

Why , what's wrong with your desire ? i'm interested in the desire and would sell my N97 Mini (although i loooove the physical keyboard) for it.
 
Donos said:
Why , what's wrong with your desire ? i'm interested in the desire and would sell my N97 Mini (although i loooove the physical keyboard) for it.

Nothing wrong with the Desire...is just that the Nexus One is the Beta phone. We get to play with new OS update sooner than anyone else. :D
 
Man I am so conflicted, after playing around in the store.

HTC sense is significantly better than Moto Shit.

But the screen.

Droid X has hard rather than capacitive buttons.

But the screen.

Incredible has the better hardware for a screen.

But the screen.

I'm just switching to sprint.

But the battery life!
 
Gallbaro said:
Man I am so conflicted, after playing around in the store.

HTC sense is significantly better than Moto Shit.

But the screen.

Droid X has hard rather than capacitive buttons.

But the screen.

Incredible has the better hardware for a screen.

But the screen.

I'm just switching to sprint.

But the battery life!

The capacitive buttons on the Evo are not a problem at all. I've never once had a problem with them. They're great.

Also the Evo's battery issues are not really drastic at all. Or even issues at all. Really. You just need to be smart about what you run and how you run it. And we'd all be willing to help you :D

However the DX is still a beastly motherfucker of a handset, are you sure you're gonna rule it out?
 
I held the Evo next to the Incredible today and I'm in love with the big screen. Since I'm sticking with a Verizon family plan, my only big-screen option is the DX, but honestly I hate the design.

HTC have any more 4.3" models coming out this year?
 
ShOcKwAvE said:
I held the Evo next to the Incredible today and I'm in love with the big screen. Since I'm sticking with a Verizon family plan, my only big-screen option is the DX, but honestly I hate the design.

HTC have any more 4.3" models coming out this year?
Yes, there is one rumored for T-Mobile. But, I'd expect a lot more in general. The Evo and HD2 were big sellers for them.a
 
Jayge said:
The capacitive buttons on the Evo are not a problem at all. I've never once had a problem with them. They're great.

Also the Evo's battery issues are not really drastic at all. Or even issues at all. Really. You just need to be smart about what you run and how you run it. And we'd all be willing to help you :D

However the DX is still a beastly motherfucker of a handset, are you sure you're gonna rule it out?
That more of an effort than I am willing to put into living with a phone. I can bend in many other ways but having to actively manage battery life is not one of them.

However there really are 3 almost perfect phones out there come August, but all of them are differentiated in some way.
 
Guys, I have a "corporate implementation" question: one of my businesses would like to switch to android phones, but there is z critical feature missing from OS 2.1 that I'm hoping someone with OS 2.2 can tell me if it works now:

We run pretty much completely off Outlook and use it to coorinate 3 offices calendars. We do this by sending Outlook calendar appointments and come in the form of attachments that can be accepted, declined or a new date/time proposed. After accepting, the event is added to your calendar.

iOS handles these properly. Blackberry handles this properly. But as of Android 2.1, Android still doesn't recognize that calendar invitations. Does anyone with OS 2.2 installed know if this is working? Would anyone be willing to let me send them a dummy calendar event for test purposes?

Thanks.
 
Gallbaro said:
That more of an effort than I am willing to put into living with a phone. I can bend in many other ways but having to actively manage battery life is not one of them.

However there really are 3 almost perfect phones out there come August, but all of them are differentiated in some way.
It's something that generally comes with Android. All it means is making sure certain processes don't update too fast or keep the phone awake while it should be sleeping. Not so much active managing (past initial configuration) as it is required minor maintenance. Both the Evo's battery life non-issues and the perceived complexity of running an efficient Android setup are massively overblown. If you'd prefer yet another alternative there is the Epic 4G which should prove to be awesome as well.
 
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