You're hilarious. No reason to "discuss" anything with you.
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Android, iOS, WP8 phone debate thread
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You're hilarious. No reason to "discuss" anything with you.
It doesn't matter how many apps you have on your device with WP7 (just like android) you don't add them all to the home screen, you put the vital ones (15-20) on your home screen and you use the app list for everything else.
Mind you I guess you might like to have 100+ apps on your homescreen if you do that on iOS instead of just using search.
Apple annouced that at their most recent press conference. And it makes sense. Look at anyones iPhone. Pages and pages and pages of apps.
Tell me how I can make a phone call on WP when I'm not on the first page of my apps.
I can just hit the phone app on the dock on iOS without scrolling anywhere.
If you read my previous posts, you'll see that I like the visual style and smoothness of WP in general, but not having a dock is a drawback in usability as I have given concrete examples.
I agree. I find the persistent nature of the dock bar to be invaluable to quicker navigation and launching of my most used applications. Its why I love the soft navigation buttons so much as well, as it takes that concept a step further, allowing for persistence even in an open app.
Right now, I can make a call without going back to the home screen at all.
No, you can't (Disregard the fact that there's no "first page" per se in WP). When I say you're hilarious, I mean the fact that you actually act as if that were in any way relevant to anyone but the most die-hard fans (it's one tap, for god's sake), the fact that you're littering your posts with unfounded WP hate, and the fact that this is consistent with your post history. You're clinging to a minor, irrelevant "advantage" that's mostly made possible by Apple holding on to a static, and IMO outdated, homescreen design.
Didn't know that was possible, is there a video showing it?
What happens when you have scrolled down to some other tiles, does it always remain visible on the screen?
What the, the phone is a default tile, and you go to the top of your homescreen by pressing the home button. I'm not sure what we're even arguing here. Pin the twenty, thirty, or whatever number of apps you use the most often. For the rest, you swipe to the right. They're organized alphabetically and you can jump through the alphabets by pressing on it.
If you must have a hundred live tiles on the homescreen of your phone, I don't know what you're doing.
If you must have a hundred live tiles on the homescreen of your phone, I don't know what you're doing.
Nope, it doesn't stay visible.
Coldfoot is arguing that that home screen button press is too much.
You...scroll back up?
Like Totakeke mentioned...most people don't pin 300 apps on the main screen because there's a list one swipe away for lesser used apps.
Well that's easy. The phone button at the bottom of the screen is too much! It wastes fucking valuable screen real estate that could be used to display more information. /pointlessargument
But you have a fifth row of icons for that! Only on iPhone 5, order now!
Also, how much additional information would another row of useless, static icons give you?
It's not like there's only a single button to press either, your finger may slip and press the back or the search button. It's just more complicated, especially for non tech savvy people.
What happens when your finger slips on iOS?
And complicated! Tell me about it, I was holding my iphone the other day and I wanted to search the web but I was in an app, I had to press 2 (2!) buttons to get to Safari or double tap (DOUBLE!) to get to the search screen. I nearly had to stop and have a cry.
Seriously you're way over thinking this issue.
You can always see how many unanswered calls, unread e-mails or messages you have regardless of any screen you're on.
Ahahahaha, are you fucking kidding me? I'm sitting here with an open mouth, still deciding whether to start laughing or crying. Are you working for a home shopping channel, where pouring a glass of milk is so hard that you might end up burning your house down?
I was referring to Totakeke's suggestion to replace the dock with more useful information.
Also, in what situation do you not answer a call when you're scrolling through the homescreen? Usually when I miss a call, it's because I don't have the phone aound me. And then I see it on the lockscreen...
This instantly made eminem lyrics pop into my head.
Every try to teach older people new technology? I know it wouldn't be a problem for me, I even got used to Windows 8 quickly, but iOS is by far the easiest phone to use. There is no reason why you can not pair live tiles with a dock either, so we're not talking about some impossibility here...iOS can have their implementation of live tiles and WP could easily have their implementation of a dock.
lol holy shit
wut the wut
Fusion Pizza
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I've gone back to iphone after having a Droid X for two years, my droid x sucked, it was a pain in the ass most of time, 70% of the time when I would get a call it would go straight to voicemail and not even ring or alert me.
To be fair I think that's a network problem, I had the same thing for years with an iPhone.
How do you make a phone call?
iOS: touch the phone app in the dock then dial.
WP: Look for the phone app on the screen, if you don't see it, press the home button (and remember out of the 3 buttons which one is home button), and then find the phone app and touch it then dial. You can also scroll up until you see the phone app.
Same logic can be applied to messaging, e-mail, internet browsing, etc.
So your argument boils down to "my phone should make up for mental retardation", gotcha. Do you want MS to add a blinking red arrow to signal which side up, too?
You forgot to mention looking for the physical phone, then looking for the power buttons (and remember out of the 4 buttons which is the power button), then trying to remember how to unlock the phone or looking for the specific number you need to press (and remember out of all the pins you have which pin is for the phone) and then find the enter button (and remember out of the 12 on screen which is the enter key) and then try to remember how to press the touch screen (and remember which of your 5 digits you want to use (theres five on hand)).
And all that work just to unlock the phone!
This is an unrealistic predicament unless you spend the majority of time on the start screen, because Windows Phone automatically returns you to the top of the screen when you exit an app, unlike iOS. I've never found myself in a situation where I've been at the bottom of the start screen and needed to scroll up to make a call...
Also "remember out of the 3 buttons which one is home button" wtf?
and before that you have to remember which hand is free so you don't try and use an already occupied hand to pick up your phone with (seriously you have two hands what if one slips and misses it!)
You don't. Home button will bring up the screen on iOS when locked as well, which is consistent with its operation at other times. It's just one button and you only need to use one braincell to know which one to press. You do not need any prior experience to know which one to press, there's only one.
You don't have to have a pin on the phone. I don't have one on mine. Even in that case, at least everything is displayed on the screen.
Oh no no, you got me all wrong, I'm not talking about the self using iPhone, I'm talking about the pandora's box that is a windows phone.
You're literally arguing overmilliseconds. That's the difference of time it takes to touch the home screen button and have it zip to the top and tap the phone tile to make a call or see if you've missed a call. There's more or less no difference between the two OS's.
Similar to what Milchjon said, you tap the home button from wherever you are to go back to the homescreen, to open up the phone app. No matter where you are in the OS, whatever app you're running, however far down the homescreen you are, just tap that home button. This shit isn't rocket science.
No, he's actually arguing about the sad predicament of total inability to interact with an object, which mostly seems to plague the elderly.
Who are you to not take this plight seriously?
Not if the battery died, which is likely for this fictional person you've created who I assume lives in a cave in a forest and was raised by wolves?
But how can it be Pandora's Box without (official) Pandora?
Joking aside, if I were using WP (and it's the only other phone I'd ever consider outside of iOS), I'd make the home screen non scrolling, and access all other apps from the list. Which would be an acceptable solution for me. App advantage between Android and WP don't matter for me.
At the expense of the Live Tiles.
Why is it so hard for you to scroll up and down a screen?
Finger slippage!
ShinNL
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This entire post is bullshit, you know it, I know it, everyone knows it.
Nice one with pandora, lol.
I don't know man, the dynamic scrollable homescreen is one of the greatest things to come out of Microsoft. Technically you can put enough tiles that you can't scroll it, but that's a waste.
The Faceless Master
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i don't even know what to say about this current conversation about how hard it is to make a call! this recent turn of events is so intriguing.
One screen of live tiles would be plenty for me. There isn't much else I'd like to see live.
Discrete steps are better for usability. It's easier to remember that an app is on screen 2 than remembering that it's x distance down by scrolling.
It's still a phone, man. Obviously this is the key advantage of iOS. Fuck ecosystem talk or weight and size arguments. With phones, it's all about the talking, so a dock that shows you phone icon on the 5th homescreen is of utmost importance.
i remember when i was in Team Blackberry and use to fault all modern phones for not having a physical "phone" button.
really, i don't even take calls these days. i could probably remove the phone icon from my WP home screen and leave it buried in the app list and not give a shit.
really, i don't even take calls these days. i could probably remove the phone icon from my WP home screen and leave it buried in the app list and not give a shit.
Yup I've been using a Galaxy Nexus for the past 6 months and even had some time with the S3 before returning it. Actually my previous iPhone 1, 3GS, and 4 all ran more smoothly than this thing.
Not sure you'd say that if you ever used a WP (or even Android) device.
That might be true, but what keeps you from putting the phone tile at the top?
And I've never really had the problem you're describing.
iOS is not light years ahead of Windows Phone in basic fludity. Windows Phone is just as fluid. It's also ridiculous to say that Android is still a "bloated and laggy mess" with Jellybean. It's not remotely either of those. It has the occasional hiccup still but it's extremely fluid 95% of the time.
ShinNL
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The only reason coldfoot is now pretending to have a fictional WP8 phone with 1 screen of live tiles is to reinforce his opinion how important it is to have a phone icon on the same place after going to home.
Not only is the initial argument itself stupid as hell, how he adds additional arguments is even worse. What a fake person.
Not only is the initial argument itself stupid as hell, how he adds additional arguments is even worse. What a fake person.
Really? Did you have a lot of stuff on it?
I have messed around with a Nexus before a few times... Wasn't as fast as my iPhone 4S but it didn't seem THAT slow.
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