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[coldfoot]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6334/iphone-5-screen-performance

""Wrapping up, the iPhone 5 display is a whole quantum leap better than the display on the iPhone 4. Contrast levels and light output have both been increased, and color performance is astonishing. The full sRGB gamut is present here, and color errors are remarkably low for a even a high end desktop display. While many were hoping for a move to OLED or some other screen innovation, this really is a huge step up that is very easy to quantify. To put this in perspective, in the past few years I've reviewed probably 30-40 different displays, from PC monitors, to TVs to projectors. Not a single one, out of the box, can put up the Gretag Macbeth dE numbers that the iPhone can, and perhaps one projector (which listed for $20,000) can approach the grayscale and color accuracy out of the box.

Apple obviously has very high control over what parts they use and what comes off their assembly lines. I don't know if they are having the displays individually adjusted after they are assembled, or if the quality control is very strict, or if I just got a really remarkably lucky sample. I do know that if TV and PC Monitor vendors were able to provide displays that looked like this out of the box, professional calibrators would lose a good amount of business potentially. The new panel in the iPhone 5 is simply remarkable in quality and if it were a PC monitor, I'd give it a Gold Award on the basis of it's performance..""

Doesn't matter as most consumers will prefer a larger display of slightly inferior quality. No one's going to do serious photo editing work on an iPhone.

I think Apple dropped the ball with the iPhone 5. They should have made it 4.5" 720p (still 326ppi) and then locked that resolution forever.

 

[The Faceless Master]

I had to do a write up for a tech article, so I'm just gonna post that here. Its basically how I feel about android at the moment.

It was in reply to thiis:
http://www.wired.com/business/2012/09/reviews-column-saving-android/


I understand that there needs to be a choice in the marketplace and that Apple’s way of doing things shouldn’t be the rule for everyone to follow. However, Google has made it so any OEM could manipulate what they created. These manipulations usually end up slowing down the phone and not providing the great features that Google puts out. I was in the exact position as the author. After my iPhone 3GS broke, I tried out the competition. I bought a Windows Phone and then I tried out an Android phone. I went out of my way to try and find the purest Android experience on my carrier (A T-Mobile G2X). Even though it was running “stock”, it was still loaded with carrier bloat ware that I didn’t want and couldn’t remove without “rooting”. I also wasn’t able to be up to date in the operating system because of carrier restrictions. Eventually I ended up going back to the iPhone. Even though the OS might be a little stale, I know that my experience will be up to date and be in line with everyone else’s. I also knew that I would only have apps that Apple created and have an app store where I could buy whatever else I needed.

This isn’t all Google’s fault. I know that they have their own Nexus line. The thing is, carriers are usually one of the obstacles that they have to face in order to get their product into customer’s hands. For example, the Galaxy Nexus came out around the same time as Motorolla’s Droid Razr. Since Verizon had spent a significant amount of money getting the “Droid” name out to the public, they decided to put the Galaxy Nexus on the backburner and promote the Razr. The Razr also features apps built by Verizon.

It seems like a bad thing to say but having too much freedom is a burden on the customers. I believe Google should have a stricter process with their OS (Like Microsoft and Windows Phone 7). Unfortunately, it seems like politics has a play in how we as consumer’s receive information about products. I’ll suggest two things: I urge you to do your research before buying your next smartphone. Find out how compatible it is with future updates since you’re likely stuck with it until your next contract. I’ll also suggest for Google to push their Nexus line of phones a lot more aggressively. If the carriers won’t cooperate, send your message out to consumers. Let them know that these Nexus phones are what Google intended.

This has become an increasing problem for OEMs. Both Google and Microsoft have started dipping their toes into the hardware game. This may be from Apple’s influence but honestly I’m tired of having half-baked experiences from hardware companies that have no business making software.

Hopefully this shockwave into the marketplace will make OEMs do a better job with their phones.

what you're describing isn't Android.

yes, Android is AOSP, brought to us by Google.


but...
Android is TouchWiz
Android is the T-Mobile Theme Chooser
Android is setting Go SMS as your default SMS app because the stock one isn't awesome enough for you
Android is the iconic HTC clock widget that was so good, they sent TROs to Beautiful Widgets and Fancy Widgets due to similarities in their clocks
Android is paying $4 for LauncherPro Premium while Federico vacations ... somewhere ...
Android is rooting and replacing bootloaders, Android is CyanogenMod, AOKP, MIUI, etc...
Android is having a Samsung Continuum and finally, FINALLY receiving the upgrade to Android 2.2 FroYo in the spring of this year
Android is PR reps saying 'Blur is gone' and telling you to not call it 'MotoBlur' despite the internal file references still calling it MotoBlur
Android is a Nexus One running JellyBean... not because it runs it well, but just because it can be made to do so
Android is whatever you want it to be, so long as it passes the Compatibility Test Suite

what some people want isn't Android, and that's fine too. there are other options.

 

[Anton Sugar]

*slow clap*

 

[Milchjon]

At first, I thought the Lumia 920 was a pretty thick phone. PhoneArena did a comparison between the iPhone 5 and the Lumia 900



The difference between the Lumia 900 and iPhone is barely noticable, while it´s huge on paper. The Lumia 920 is thinner than the 900. I think I´ll stop taking number so serious.

It is? Dang
But it doesn't slope towards the top/bottom, like the 900 does, so it'll probably look thicker when put next to an iPhone 5.

Also, after spending a few days in the wilderness of Maine in a rental car, Nokia Drive with offline turn-by-turn is a killer app. Works perfectly. Only thing it lacks (so far, on WP7) is alternative routes. But the way it is right now, it saved me like 60 bucks on the rental car navigation.

 

[tino]

I had to do a write up for a tech article, so I'm just gonna post that here. Its basically how I feel about android at the moment.

It was in reply to thiis:
http://www.wired.com/business/2012/09/reviews-column-saving-android/


I understand that there needs to be a choice in the marketplace and that Apple’s way of doing things shouldn’t be the rule for everyone to follow. However, Google has made it so any OEM could manipulate what they created. These manipulations usually end up slowing down the phone and not providing the great features that Google puts out. I was in the exact position as the author. After my iPhone 3GS broke, I tried out the competition. I bought a Windows Phone and then I tried out an Android phone. I went out of my way to try and find the purest Android experience on my carrier (A T-Mobile G2X). Even though it was running “stock”, it was still loaded with carrier bloat ware that I didn’t want and couldn’t remove without “rooting”. I also wasn’t able to be up to date in the operating system because of carrier restrictions. Eventually I ended up going back to the iPhone. Even though the OS might be a little stale, I know that my experience will be up to date and be in line with everyone else’s. I also knew that I would only have apps that Apple created and have an app store where I could buy whatever else I needed.

This isn’t all Google’s fault. I know that they have their own Nexus line. The thing is, carriers are usually one of the obstacles that they have to face in order to get their product into customer’s hands. For example, the Galaxy Nexus came out around the same time as Motorolla’s Droid Razr. Since Verizon had spent a significant amount of money getting the “Droid” name out to the public, they decided to put the Galaxy Nexus on the backburner and promote the Razr. The Razr also features apps built by Verizon.

It seems like a bad thing to say but having too much freedom is a burden on the customers. I believe Google should have a stricter process with their OS (Like Microsoft and Windows Phone 7). Unfortunately, it seems like politics has a play in how we as consumer’s receive information about products. I’ll suggest two things: I urge you to do your research before buying your next smartphone. Find out how compatible it is with future updates since you’re likely stuck with it until your next contract. I’ll also suggest for Google to push their Nexus line of phones a lot more aggressively. If the carriers won’t cooperate, send your message out to consumers. Let them know that these Nexus phones are what Google intended.

This has become an increasing problem for OEMs. Both Google and Microsoft have started dipping their toes into the hardware game. This may be from Apple’s influence but honestly I’m tired of having half-baked experiences from hardware companies that have no business making software.

Hopefully this shockwave into the marketplace will make OEMs do a better job with their phones.

If you can't handle the freedom pick your ball and go home. Apple's totalitarian ecosystem is better suite for you.

You know what's problem with you, and some bloggers who cry for Android's "too much choices"? And I am naming names, a bunch of secondary writers on GigaOM and BGR. You are not supposed to be a tech bloggers. That's the problem.

 

[mescalineeyes]

You know what's problem with you, and some bloggers who cry for Android's "too much choices"? You are not supposed to be a tech blogger. That's the problem.

If that is what you have taken away from what he wrote, then you are the one with the problem.

I don't think anyone would argue against TouchWiz & co. if they made Android better.

 

[Firestorm]

If you can't handle the freedom pick your ball and go home. Apple's totalitarian ecosystem is better suite for you.

You know what's problem with you, and some bloggers who cry for Android's "too much choices"? And I am naming names, a bunch of secondary writers on GigaOM and BGR. You are not supposed to be a tech bloggers. That's the problem.

I was with you until you hit the second paragraph. Then you just showed you were a close-minded idiot who can't understand other people have different expectations from the products they own and use.

 

[Cyrillus]

I was with you until you hit the second paragraph. Then you just showed you were a close-minded idiot who can't understand other people have different expectations from the products they own and use.

Which is kind of ironic since the article he's criticizing lacks that same understanding.

 

[coldfoot]

If you can't handle the freedom pick your ball and go home. Apple's totalitarian ecosystem is better suite for you.

That's exactly what most app developers are doing. Or their Android apps are very simple apps that will work on the most Android devices while their iOS apps soar.
This is why I think WP8 has a real shot of attracting the most developers after iOS.

 

[Kiraly]

That's exactly what most app developers are doing. Or their Android apps are very simple apps that will work on the most Android devices while their iOS apps soar.
This is why I think WP8 has a real shot of attracting the most developers after iOS.

That is such bullshit.

Was true in like 2010.

 

[Cheebo]

This is why I think WP8 has a real shot of attracting the most developers after iOS.

One thing that I notice that is often overlooked is a lot of the big name great app developers that are on iOS and not Android are made by fiercely loyal Apple developers who came from the Mac, they just now have a far bigger market to now break out in. Reading interviews and listening to them on podcasts shows how many of these guys are very loyal to Apple. The same reason you'll never see Tweetbot, Downcast, Clear, Tiny Wings, etc on Android is the same reason you'll never see them on Windows Phone.

It's hard to under-estimate how deep the Apple loyality goes for many of the big name apps currently only on iOS and not Android.

 

[brotkasten]

One thing that I notice that is often overlooked is a lot of the big name great app developers that are on iOS and not Android are made by fiercely loyal Apple developers who came from the Mac, they just now have a far bigger market to now break out in. Reading interviews and listening to them on podcasts shows how many of these guys are very loyal to Apple. The same reason you'll never see Tweetbot, Downcast, Clear, Tiny Wings, etc on Android is the same reason you'll never see them on Windows Phone.

It's hard to under-estimate how deep the Apple loyality goes for many of the big name apps currently only on iOS and not Android.

I don't think loyalty to Apple is the reason why the official Twitter app for Android still has no tablet layout.

There are few officials apps that feel or look better on Android than on iOS. Spotify would be one of them.

 

[coldfoot]

That is such bullshit.

Was true in like 2010.

Nope, it's not bullshit and it's true:

Addey points to the problems encountered by Imangi Studios, developer of the hugely popular Temple Run game - in which you are pursued along stone-lined routes by fast-moving unseen monsters - when it ported the app to Android, releasing it at the end of March.

It was a huge success in terms of downloads, hitting 5m in about 10 days. But Imangi Studios - a husband-and-wife team, plus a designer - soon discovered that Schmidt's promise of Android being ahead in the number of phones and manufacturers was only too true. Despite writing it to run on 707 Android devices, they said that 99% of the emails requesting support were actually complaints that it wouldn't run on the user's particular phone model or version of Android. They were pilloried on Facebook, despite having what would be regarded by anyone as a successful release

Also why some devs might choose WP8 over android:

Dave Addey is managing director of Agant, a British software developer which has written, among others, the Train Times app which costs £4.99 on the iPhone, and uses National Rail data to offer real-time data feeds, plan journeys and show timetables. "We still prioritise iOS," he says. "Because it's the main platform on which people will pay for an app. We haven't done Android apps for business reasons. It comes down to this: do you port [translate] to Android, or do you develop another app for iOS? In the end, iOS is the better business case. Apple's greatest trick has been making it really easy to pay for apps. Once you have your iTunes account, you just enter a password." Google is trying to emulate that by encouraging people to add a credit card when they first set up a phone; but it is coming from a long way behind Apple, which started its iTunes Music Store selling music online in 2003, and is now one of the web's biggest five holders of credit card details, along with Amazon, eBay and PayPal.

MS has a similar ecosystem in place with Xbox Live where many people already have entered their credit cards.

 

[coldfoot]

There are few officials apps that feel or look better on Android than on iOS. Spotify would be one of them.

Spotify was a second class citizen on Android until June. Now the app is on par, but iOS owners get free streaming like Pandora...so I don't see how it is superior.

 

[Cheebo]

Nope, it's not bullshit and it's true:


Also why some devs might choose WP8 over android:

MS has a similar ecosystem in place with Xbox Live where many people already have entered their credit cards.

I highly doubt the Xbox Live accounts with a credit card entered comes anywhere close to how many iTunes has. Even pre-iOS iTunes. If I remember Apple has the largest database of accounts with active credit cards in the world, more than even Amazon. The reach of iTunes is far larger and more universal than that of a video game system.

Although the XBL credit card users is a much better position to have than what Google Wallet had for Google, people were not used to entering credit card information into Google.

 

[coldfoot]

I highly doubt the Xbox Live accounts with a credit card entered comes anywhere close to how many iTunes has. Even pre-iOS iTunes. If I remember Apple has the largest database of accounts with active credit cards in the world, more than even Amazon. The reach of iTunes is far larger and more universal than that of a video game system.

Although the XBL credit card users is a much better position to have than what Google Wallet had for Google, people were not used to entering credit card information into Google.

Of course it can't compete with Apple, but I never said it could. My argument is that it can take the app advantage from Android in a few years, so we're in agreement in there.

 

[mescalineeyes]

I don't think loyalty to Apple is the reason why the official Twitter app for Android still has no tablet layout.

There are few officials apps that feel or look better on Android than on iOS. Spotify would be one of them.

Well, the less we say about Twitter's official client the better!

 

[brotkasten]

Spotify was a second class citizen on Android until June. Now the app is on par, but iOS owners get free streaming like Pandora...so I don't see how it is superior.

The UI is easily superior on Android. Spotify on the iPhone reeks of iOS, which is not a compliment, when it comes it UI and UX design.

Last.fm is free on Windows Phone. Does that make it the superior experience too?

 

[Talon]

iOS application feels like iOS application.

News at 11.

 

[mescalineeyes]

iOS application feels like iOS application.

News at 11.

The best iOS applications don't anymore.

Or, at least, the best doesn't.

That said, I'd take that iOS spotify over that dingy grey Android piece of shit any day of the week.

 

[brotkasten]

iOS application feels like iOS application.

News at 11.

I can't speak for the iPhone, but the best iPad apps don't look or feel like iOS applications.

Coincidence?

 

[coldfoot]

The UI is easily superior on Android. Spotify on the iPhone reeks of iOS, which is not a compliment, when it comes it UI and UX design.

The iOS version looks far better in those screenshots. I'd take reeking of iOS as a compliment when it comes to UI design except for some ridiculous skeumorphisms.
That Android version looks like bad website design from the 90's.

Last.fm is free on Windows Phone. Does that make it the superior experience too?

If the features of the app are the same as other platforms, yes.

 

[Ghost]

It actually looks best on WP7 in my opinion, plus you can pin playlists/artists/anything to the start screen.

Spoiler

shame it's buggy, it's missing a load of the newest features, and there's no update in site

 

[coldfoot]

It actually looks best on WP7 in my opinion, plus you can pin playlists/artists/anything to the start screen.

Spoiler

shame it's buggy, it's missing a load of the newest features, and there's no update in site

Disagree, I have grown to like metro ever since I used windows 8, but that zune-ish design of cutting text in half never appealed to me. That design, colors, and fonts are nice and I'd like it better than the others as long as no text is cut off on the screen. I also think WP8 is much better than WP7 and the stupid arrows that take up half the screen

 

[AgentP]

Also why some devs might choose WP8 over android:

MS has a similar ecosystem in place with Xbox Live where many people already have entered their credit cards.

So developers are going to chose WP8 over Android because on Android users have to enter CC info once while on WP8 users (might) have CC info stored with Xbox Live already? This matters to the devs why? I'm guessing the market share of Android will offset whatever gamers already have Xbox Live accounts to make purchases require one less step. Not to mention your own quote mentions Amazon which of course sells Android apps and mps for Android.

Strange logic.

 

[nib95]

Also why some devs might choose WP8 over android:

MS has a similar ecosystem in place with Xbox Live where many people already have entered their credit cards.

This is a stretch. Highly illogical imo. It takes a few seconds to enter your card details in to Google (which imo has a strong enough brand name that you wouldn't mind doing it) and then you never have to do it again. One click easy purchase.

 

[Blackhead]

One thing that I notice that is often overlooked is a lot of the big name great app developers that are on iOS and not Android are made by fiercely loyal Apple developers who came from the Mac, they just now have a far bigger market to now break out in. Reading interviews and listening to them on podcasts shows how many of these guys are very loyal to Apple. The same reason you'll never see Tweetbot, Downcast, Clear, Tiny Wings, etc on Android is the same reason you'll never see them on Windows Phone.

It's hard to under-estimate how deep the Apple loyality goes for many of the big name apps currently only on iOS and not Android.

On the other hand, some in community like to argue that they aren't biased and irrationally loyal to a faceless company (2011):

This idea that designers who favor iOS criticize Android for being poorly designed just because it’s from an Apple competitor is nonsense — a bogeyman construct dreamed up by open source zealots who refuse to believe over a decade of evidence that open source UIs tend to be ugly, and that ugly UIs tend to be unpopular. We criticize Android for being poorly designed because it’s poorly designed. We favor iOS because it’s better designed. That’s it.

You could argue that it's about the large iOS marketshare but when the shoe was on the other foot (2002):

Not at all. I think the fact that you’re only writing Mac software is tremendously interesting. The conventional wisdom holds that commercial developers should concentrate on Windows, because the market is so much larger. And that Mac software should be an afterthought, and possibly ignored unless you think you can obtain a significant return on investment.

Joel Spolsky wrote about this on Joel On Software, effectively arguing that it seldom makes sense to develop Mac software. You responded with some great comments. You wrote:

One of the reasons I develop for OS X is that, when it comes to user interface, this is the big leagues, this is the show. That’s probably what Joel would call an “emotional appeal” — and to call it that, that’s fine by me.

Right now Metro is the show, the big leagues for design. So if the big name great app developers on iOS are fiercely loyal to good design (and not to Apple) then we should expect to see more and more making apps for WP8 (and even Android too imo as it's arguable that Jelly Bean isn't inferior to iOS6).

 

[coldfoot]

So developers are going to chose WP8 over Android because on Android users have to enter CC info once while on WP8 users (might) have CC info stored with Xbox Live already?

Xbox Live AND Windows 8...
I'd also bet the XBL folk who have their CC's on file are FAR more likely to actually spend money on apps than Android folk.

Good reading:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/appsblog/2012/jun/10/apple-developer-wwdc-schmidt-android

iPhone users have shown themselves willing to pay for apps in a way that Android users so far have not. In January 2012, Apple said that since 2008, when its App Store opened, developers had been paid a total of $4bn, of which more than $700m was paid in the last quarter of 2011 alone. Google hasn't given a comparable figure, though Horace Dediu, who runs the Asymco consultancy, puts the figure for Google's total app sales in 2011 at $300m - meaning developers would get $210m in total.

In March 2012, Flurry crunched data from developers using its tracking tools in their apps, and claimed that given the same number of users per platform, a developer who got $1 on the iTunes App Store would get $0.23 from Google Play.

WP8, which is another walled garden like iOS, will have an easier time attracting people who are actually willing to pay for their apps. We see Android's install base advantage over iOS doesn't mean much. That is why I think it has a better chance than Android.

 

[this_guy]

WP8, which is another walled garden like iOS, will have an easier time attracting people who are actually willing to pay for their apps.

They have a hard enough time as it is just to attract people.

 

[buhdeh]

Got damn, people actually like that iOS spotify app? Didn't know ugly ass glossy, gradient bars were still in. And dat circular thumbs up/down icon... so hawt. If anything, the Android version is a pretty generic, utilitarian design which I'd take anyday over glossy bars.

 

[mescalineeyes]

Right now Metro is the show, the big leagues for design.

It really really isn't, because every designer who is worth a damn knows that WP8 is an outdated design language based on bad typography and a few dozen half-baked ideas.
But mainly because no one gives a shit about WP8.

So if the big name great app developers on iOS are fiercely loyal to good design (and not to Apple) then we should expect to see more and more making apps for WP8 (and even Android too imo as it's arguable that Jelly Bean isn't inferior to iOS6).

The trend is actually moving away from emulating any sort of UI and basically making your own chrome, if you will. The best apps make their own UI.

 

[Divvy]

It really really isn't, because every designer who is worth a damn knows that WP8 is an outdated design language based on bad typography and a few dozen half-baked ideas.
But mainly because no one gives a shit about WP8.

Tell us how you really feel

 

[mescalineeyes]

Tell us how you really feel

I just did.

I love WP8, the smoothness, the animations and ease of use are best in class.
It's still ugly.

 

[Ghost]

every designer worth a damn knows they aren't as important as the functionality of the app they are designing for.

Development decisions are made on factors like time efficiency, install base and level of interest. I guarantee you no developer of any remotely important app ever decided to not develop for iOS, Android or WP because of how hip or otherwise the design aesthetic is. Those people that talk about 'emotional appeal', exist in equally small numbers on each platform and their emotion is quickly checked by their business sense as soon as they hit on anything even remotely successful.

 

[Anton Sugar]

I love WP8, the smoothness, the animations and ease of use are best in class.
It's still ugly.

You have to be aware that you are in the minority here, right? Your nebulous "every designer who is worth a damn" doesn't hold any weight against the acclaim that WP's UI has gotten from media and design sources.

 

[VanWinkle]

You know what I've noticed since getting the iPhone 4 about a week ago? I vastly prefer the holo design language introduced in ICS to the design language of iPhone apps. A good holo app looks WAY prettier than a similar iPhone app (IMO, obviously).

I really love the metro design of Windows Phone apps, but I think I prefer holo functionality wise.

Example:

 

[mescalineeyes]

every designer worth a damn knows they aren't as important as the functionality of the app they are designing for.

Development decisions are made on factors like time efficiency, install base and level of interest. I guarantee you no developer of any remotely important app ever decided to not develop for iOS, Android or WP because of how hip or otherwise the design aesthetic is.

which would be correct, you know, if this was what we were talking about.

You have to be aware that you are in the minority here, right? Your nebulous "every designer who is worth a damn" doesn't hold any weight against the acclaim that WP's UI has gotten from media and design sources.

I might be in the minority here, but among people actually working in and educated about the design, I am not. I wouldn't hire a designer who told me Metro was not outdated.

 

[Anton Sugar]

I might be in the minority here, but among people actually working in and educated about the design, I am not. I wouldn't hire a designer who told me Metro was not outdated.

What, exactly, is outdated about it? Particularly in comparison to other mobile OS's?

 

[buhdeh]

mescalineeyes, honest question: how do you feel about the alien blue/jasmine design?

 

[Milchjon]

which would be correct, you know, if this was what we were talking about.




I might be in the minority here, but among people actually working in and educated about the design, I am not. I wouldn't hire a designer who told me Metro was not outdated.

Uhm, I haven't read anything like that anywhere else, links plz? Cause I could easily give you examples of designers who state the opposite, just read Fast Company's current ("Design") issue for instance.

 

[gimmmick]

It actually looks best on WP7 in my opinion, plus you can pin playlists/artists/anything to the start screen.

Spoiler

shame it's buggy, it's missing a load of the newest features, and there's no update in site

I like the holo theme more than the metro on wp.

 

[mescalineeyes]

What, exactly, is outdated about it? Particularly in comparison to other mobile OS's?

If you look at it, and you don't think it looks dated already, I am not sure what to tell you.
Using flat boxes with text in it sorted in a grid just isn't all that hot anymore. Neither is huge blown up and cut-off text. Just go to outlook.com. It's a fucking turd.


I am not saying iOS is faring any better, it's just ageing more slowly since Apple's designs have an essence of class that Microsoft and Google lack.

I don't like Holo much either, except the dark theme. It's too contemporary (and seeing how it was designed 2 years ago, lost much of its luster.)

 

[Stephen Colbert]

So I got that iPhone 4. It was in perfect condition. Can't believe I got it for only $40 haha. Haven't used iOS in a while and, man, not a huge fan of it after having the S3 for a couple of months, but still a great device in a lot of ways.

Check out my collection now

Yep, lets stop this Phone War now and just agree that every true mobile gamer should be a multiphone owner.

And I don't want to hear from all you "a gaming tablet is superior to all of them" people in here either. Not everyone can afford to build their own gaming tablet.

 

[mescalineeyes]

mescalineeyes, honest question: how do you feel about the alien blue/jasmine design?

Jasmine is nicer than AlienBlue, although these oldschool iOS style blue hues are sort of silly looking now. Fairly nice typo though. I'd have to see how the grey backgrounds fares on an iPhone, on my screen it looks okay.
Solid 3.5/5

 

[Blackhead]

It really really isn't, because every designer who is worth a damn knows that WP8 is an outdated design language based on bad typography and a few dozen half-baked ideas.
But mainly because no one gives a shit about WP8.

[Citations needed]

 

[mescalineeyes]

[Citations needed]

I have to leave now, but here you go, this will do for starters:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/final-thoughts-on-windows-8-a-design-disaster/20706

 

[dragonelite]

It really really isn't, because every designer who is worth a damn knows that WP8 is an outdated design language based on bad typography and a few dozen half-baked ideas.
But mainly because no one gives a shit about WP8.

Anecdotal evidence?

Maybe some sources would be appreciated.

 

[Divvy]

I have to leave now, but here you go, this will do for starters:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/final-thoughts-on-windows-8-a-design-disaster/20706

This man is not a designer, and we wasn't even talking about windows phone?

 

[Psychotext]

I have to leave now, but here you go, this will do for starters:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/final-thoughts-on-windows-8-a-design-disaster/20706

Almost everything there revolves around it working in a less efficient manner to Windows 7. Not particularly relevant in a phone thread.

 

[Anton Sugar]

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