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I have until iPhone 5 pre-order time to decide what I want to do. I can pick up a Samsung Galaxy SIII tomorrow morning or I can preorder an iPhone 5 and wait a week.

I will admit the S3 is damn sexy and I fucking ADORE that 4.8' screen. Just sexy. But here's the thing I hate about Android...why is their flagship device still running an outdated OS? I mean Jellybean has BEEN released. Why wasn't it on the S3 from day one? Why are process/memory/battery hogging proprietary software (Touchwiz) still slapped on TOP of the default Android OS? Also I read users can''t transfer apps to the SD card. And the largest I can get one is 16GB so that limits me.

I have a Nexus 7 so I'm a FULL believer in Jellybean. I've never used an OS that was so smooth. Multitasking is a joy. And hot damn...the ability to customize the device is wonderful.

With that said I'm still torn. The reason I may stick with and support iOS is that it's so amazingly stable. It does everything I need it to. And the battery life has never failed me.

I always said I'd re-evaluate Android once it's matured and for the first time since I got my iPhone 3G there's another phone that is JUST as rock solid as an iPhone.
 
A microsoft manufactured windows phone would be the shit. The build quality of the surface looks amazing, if they can make a phone using magnesium like the surface that would be great.

This would be awesome.... make a galaxy note like device but have it run real winRT (so the apps would literally be the same and you get the buy it once get it everywhere deal).

Then buy sprint/clearwire and turn it into an unlimited data only lte network for their devices and leverage Skype as the telecom stuff (also get into the home broadband game) and turn this whole industry on its head.
 
I have until iPhone 5 pre-order time to decide what I want to do. I can pick up a Samsung Galaxy SIII tomorrow morning or I can preorder an iPhone 5 and wait a week.

I will admit the S3 is d*** sexy and I f***ing ADORE that 4.8' screen. Just sexy. But here's the thing I hate about Android...why is their flagship device still running an outdated OS? I mean Jellybean has BEEN released. Why wasn't it on the S3 from day one? Why are process/memory/battery hogging proprietary software (Touchwiz) still slapped on TOP of the default Android OS? Also I read users can''t transfer apps to the SD card. And the largest I can get one is 16GB so that limits me.

I have a Nexus 7 so I'm a FULL believer in Jellybean. I've never used an OS that was so smooth. Multitasking is a joy. And hot d***...the ability to customize the device is wonderful.

With that said I'm still torn. The reason I may stick with and support iOS is that it's so amazingly stable. It does everything I need it to. And the battery life has never failed me.

I always said I'd re-evaluate Android once it's matured and for the first time since I got my iPhone 3G there's another phone that is JUST as rock solid as an iPhone.

I will agree with you. I love my S3 (easily the best phone I've ever had), but Touchwiz does need to go. Jellybean is (IMO) a beautiful OS, and if Samsung didn't use their Touchwiz UI, which, in their apps at least is really showing it's age, we would get updates a lot faster. I would much rather have stock Jellybean than Touchwiz 4 with Jellybean. But alas. That is the main problem with Android, but I still love it.
 
I think Windows Phone is beautiful, and if it wasn't for the fact that it's deeply integrated with Microsoft products/features, I would be all over the 920.

I really like iOS, but after 3 years, it is quite stale and boring to use.

I love Jelly Bean. It's missing some functionality that I wish was standard that the other platforms have (automatic backup, messaging functionality) and the apps are pretty bad compared to their iOS versions. But I love the UI and can't wait to see Key Lime Pie. Only problem is I wish there were more stock phones that I could choose from. Not a big fan of the Galaxy Nexus, especially compared to the 920 and iPhone.
 
nokia has the best looking phone right now.

Sex.

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I'm hoping the 920 comes to sprint.


I have my htc arrive and love it , i came over from an epic 4g and i had iphoens in the past. I'm just going to fully jump on the windows eco system. I already have a htpc with a tunner , 4 xbox and a bunch of pcs and laptops.

It be silly to go to anything else esp after the horror problems i had with andriod
 
I don't understand how a phone OS is boring to use. If your primary enjoyment of a computing device comes from looking at icons and managing settings you are a bit wierd.

How much entertainment can you really get from moving the clock around on the home screen?
 
I don't understand how a phone OS is boring to use. If your primary enjoyment of a computing device comes from looking at icons and managing settings you are a bit wierd.

How much entertainment can you really get from moving the clock around on the home screen?

If you think that's all a phone OS is, you're mistaken.
 
I'm asking myself the same questions as OP: I'm currently rocking a nokia n8, for a phone it does what I need it to do: a good camera, a good GPS and especially unbreakable! I don't really need a lot of apps, that would be more important for my tablet (I own an iPad 2 and I don't think about switching OS here...)

But Symbian Belle lacks of reactivity (for me), feels sometimes sluggish and I can be really frustrating when it freezes. So I would like to try something new, basically I'm hesitating between an Android flagship because damn, their possibility of customization are incredible! just look at the homepage of Mycolorscreens, it's beautiful! But I'm not fan of the build quality of the Samsung phones...

So, just like a lot of gaffers it seems, I'll probably make the jump to WP8 with the nokia lumia 920 (for it's robustness, the camera).
There's just one last thing: which color??? Yellow or Red? Maybe yellow...
 
I'm waiting to see if the 920 camera lives up to the hype, if it doesn't then iPhone 5 for me.

I also do think that in terms of size, the 920 might be slightly too big, but I'll have to hold one to be sure.
 
Pick...

Android (Galaxy S3 or Note 2) - For feature set and customisation.

iOS (iPhone 5) - For simplicity and ease of use. + uniform and clean UI, better range of apps, better designed hardware

W8 (Lumia 920) - For an alternative UI and hardware.

Fixed

People trying to play iOS off as some toy.
 
If you have a mac as your principal computer the the iPhone is truly a no brainer choice, if you don't after my experience with my Galaxy S2 i will always suggest WP or iOS.

This year choice is from:
Lumia 920 (probably the best camera around, very powerful but not power hungry CPU, highest screen resolution of the bunch, stylish and good OS, better phone design than the average android phone)

iPhone 5 (If you don't have any problem with the OS philosophy it is no doubt the best balanced phone around also a lot of apps)
 
Checking out the phone now, thanks for the recommendation, hard to argue against the benchmarks

The problem with Sony Mobile is that they really don't have a flagship model like Samsung or the others. The T seems to be the best, but there are 2 other versions of it wich have more functions, but they'll just be niche.
 
Wtf.

Trying to set the DNS addresses on a Samsung Galaxy phone for our wifi. Go to network, and some button in the bottom left lets us got to an advanced setting, there are DNS fields at the bottom, but they are greyed out. Can't set them without turning on static IP. what? What if I don't want to use a static ip?

Is the DNS set? I don't know. Googling just gives me a bunch of stuff saying to download an app to set DNS?! This blows.

Why aren't things just straight forward? Maybe I'm dense. Can someone enlighten a non-android user how to set the DNS?

Can it be set per wifi connection?
 
You can "fix" all of these. WP does have a "uniform and clean UI" and the Lumia 920 arguably has superior hardware. So your "fixing" has the same skew that you accuse others of.

How could I possibly add any substantial comments for an OS I've not used?

It looks good on paper, but I have no understanding on how it actually operates.

So I comment on iOS and Android only
 
i've had all the iphone's since 3g and am fully onboard with the apple eco system, apple tv, iPad, macbook etc but am going for the 920 when it comes out (unless it gets poor reviews), as its the phone that excites me the most (almost got the Lumia 800 last year but bottled it)

Don't put too much weight on the review scores when the time comes. I can already guarantee you that it won't do as well as the iPhone in the the verge review. Across reviews there will be a lot of complaining that there still aren't all the apps you can find on iOS. Even if development for WP8 picks up, that will take a bit of time. However, I do think we'll see more WP8 apps, as Windows 8 is bound to be quite big and the apps will be easy to port to the phone.



I stick with Android for versatility and freedom. iOS has great content and is super easy to use. WP... I'm sorry, Microsoft will screw you and screw devs. It may not be today but eventually. Same old Microsoft, deep in their history. It's a pretty OS, though.

I suspect you are referring to the 'reset' to Windows Phone 8 from Windows Phone 7. Typically, Microsoft is not a company that tends to screw the devs. Windows Phone 7 apps will run on Windows Phone 8 (and will reach a wider audience).
I am certain there won't be another big reset in two years. Now Windows Phone 8 is on the Windows 8 kernel. That 'reset' was necessary and will bring lots of benefits. No reason to change that any time soon.
I bet the new Windows Phone 8 devices released this year will get more updates than any of this year's Android devices.



I think Windows Phone is beautiful, and if it wasn't for the fact that it's deeply integrated with Microsoft products/features, I would be all over the 920.

I really like iOS, but after 3 years, it is quite stale and boring to use.

Don't pretend Apple and google aren't guilty of this.
Android, which google is giving away for free, is all about locking people into the google ecosystem and getting them to use google apps. google+ is a good example of that. When you create a new google account you automatically have a google+ account and when you set up a new Android device, it asks you to get on google+. They also exert a lot of pressure on the OEMs to include all those google services.
Apple is probably the guiltiest of all. They have the strictest conditions for apps such as not duplicating OS functionality (not completely sure if that's still in place. at least they now allow other browsers) and use proprietary stuff wherever they can such as Facetime, Airplay, cables.


Windows Phone is actually not bad at all when it comes to integrating other Microsoft products and features. Sure, it has Internet explorer in exactly the same way that iOS has Safari. It also uses bing as the main search, but it's not like you'd get the same experience if you'd just go to the google homepage. It's more deeply integrated into the OS. There's still the google search app.
Apple and google are free to offer some WP apps if they want to make their services (such as maps) accessible on the platform. They just don't.

I think Microsoft doesn't try as hard to lock people in. They offer a lot of their services on other platforms. SkyDrive is available on Android and iOS, Skype is available everywhere, Office is allegedly on its way to iOS. Things like Photosynth hit other platforms first. They even have some games like Kinectimals on iOS.


I must say, the Lumia 920 is an alluring device, but something about the Windows panes still seems too simple and basic to me. I also feel like more of the front should be occupied by actual screen real estate

Here I just want to point out that some of the Lumia images we've seen are slightly misleading. In the pictures that show the start screen it's not always clear where the screen starts, as the start screen has some margins around the tiles. At time it looks as if the screen were smaller than it really is. The photo above shows the screen size well: photo


I'm starting to consider the Lumia 920, but I do need to find out more about the Windows Phone OS. What does it offer in terms of customizability and integration with 3rd party apps? For example, if I don't want to use Internet Explorer, can I set my links to default to another browser? What about integration with 3rd party turn by turn navigation apps, map apps, email clients, search engines? Also, does Windows Phone 8 offer anything similar to Google Now?

It doesn't let you set a different browser as the default. In that regard it's identical to iOS. But Internet Explorer and especially IE10 are pretty great on the phone.
Navigation apps in general aren't really integrated all that much. There's really no obstacle to using 3rd party navigation and map apps. The Nokia apps are especially great here, but there are also some other options.
I don't think there's a way to use different mail clients. The built-in one is really good and works well with gmail, though.
As for search engines, the search button on the phone always leads to bing. But it's not the regular web search and they couldn't just put in google.com instead. It has some other functionalities when it comes to local searches, and it highlights apps in the market place for some search terms. There's a google search app that you start from a tile on the start screen.

Windows Phone does not have a google now equivalent. It doesn't automaticallyy learn all that stuff about you and then bring up cards. However, live tiles fulfill a lot of the same purposes. E.g. google now has that card for commuting that helps with getting to work on time. Here Nokia has its location apps, that also have a commuting functionality can display similar information to the card on a live tile. At some point Microsoft has also shown off an app of an airline that had live tiles to help people catch their planes.
 
Don't put too much weight on the review scores when the time comes. I can already guarantee you that it won't do as well as the iPhone in the the verge review. Across reviews there will be a lot of complaining that there still aren't all the apps you can find on iOS. Even if development for WP8 picks up, that will take a bit of time. However, I do think we'll see more WP8 apps, as Windows 8 is bound to be quite big and the apps will be easy to port to the phone.

Yer i'm fully prepared for that, at first I thought apps were the greatest thing but dont use them nearly enough as I used too (and after using an ipad for games the iphone simply isnt big enough now)

The only one that bothers me (slightly) is Instagram but i'm confident that's on its way.
 
Yes, finally a "war" thread.

Lumia 920 makes it easy for me to stay loyal to windows phone. At this point 920 feels like what could be iphone 5s (minus the faster chipset)

Highest DPI
Fastest Screen Refresh
Only Screen that works with gloves,
Best Camera on any current smartphone for videos AND pictures
NFC
Wireless Charging
Best visibility in sunlight (according to nokia)
Best audio-recording

Then Windows Phone 8 itself:

Well over 100.000 apps in the store from the get go
Highly customizable with livetile size choice and loads of accent colors
"Lenses" for best camera customization
"True" Offline Maps and Navigation without caching the data before
Skydrive and Windows ID integration for instant access to everything from every - Windows 8 and Windows phone 8 device
And everything that made Windows Phone 7 great.


List wars is best wars. Bring it on

That is a pretty compelling list. It would take a lot to move me from Android but that feature set is very impressive.
 
It's the same phone, though I can assure you of that. It's like those Arc pictures from last year. Sony (Ericson)'s design is simply amazing.

Then Sony have some incredible magic up their sleeves as buttons move and switch around and logotypes that suddenly disappear depending on how you angle the phone. :)
 
Then Sony have some incredible magic up their sleeves as buttons move and switch around and logotypes that suddenly disappear depending on how you angle the phone. :)

Shit you're right, the two bottom pictures are the at&t variant with the metalic strip. Still, it's the Xperia T.
 
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