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don't you have to press continue with that to see the next instruction? I know there are improvements coming with the next release, but as far as I know that is how it is at the moment.

Nah, it works beautifully on it's own :-)
Even offline.
 
I'll be getting the Lumia 920. I prefer the OS in design and performance, and the hardware in design and specs. I've had a Windows Phone in the past so I know what to expect from the app store - almost everything I need, to be honest.

I have an iPad and I'd miss a lot from the iOS store if I didn't have access to it, but I'm not desperate to have it on all of my mobile devices; I'll more than get by with the apps on a Windows Phone while I'm away from my iPad. In fact I'd probably grow bored if my phone and tablet were almost the same device with a different screen size. I like to mix and match.

As for Android, I have nothing against it but for me it has neither the apps of iOS nor the aesthetic beauty of WP (hardware and software) so I doubt I'd consider it any time soon.
 
Has that been confirmed yet? Verizon is getting a variant of the 820, codenamed the Atlas but thats all we know. I haven't heard anything about the 920 being exclusive thus far.

I was just assuming it was exclusive, ala the 900. I want the 920, but I was asking about the 820 because of my aforementioned assumption.
 
I was waiting to see what iPhone 5 was going to bring to the table before I decided whether or not I would stay with WP. WP8 and a Nokia Lumia 920 it is. The apps I use (not many) are all available on Windows Phone and I have loved the UI and everything I need the phone to do (calls, text, email, browse Gaf) from day 1.

Still have an OG iPad that I will probably upgrade next year to get iOS 6.
 
iPhone user, former Windows Phone man. I recently turned on my Omnia 7, and wow, the OS feels like a completely higher generation to me when contrast with iOS; it is night and day.
 
Currently own Omnia 7 and iPad and was an Android user previously.

My choice: Lumia 920

The integrated services in WP are already fantastic and the improvements they've shown so far in wp8 look good. That and the best hardware make it the best option for me.
 
Current phone is a galaxy note, previously had an iphone 3gs. Tablet is an ipad 3, previously was an ipad. I actually like android, but i still prefer ios as an os and the app support seals the deal for me. I would be very interested in a lumia device if wp8 gets more dev support.
 
Because it is CPU based and has to render through the browser engine, it is not designed for real time graphics.

Right, but again we're talking about mostly static imagery and controls here... its not intensive to render that, regardless of whether its rendered via software or hardware. And again, we're talking about apps such as Facebook and how I believe the sluggishness blame is misplaced, not games.
 
Can anyone give a comparison of the browsers? It's the most important feature for me I think, I don't think the lack of apps will be a big problem for me as I don't game on my phone at all.

My Nexus S contract runs out in December, at the moment I think my choice will be between the Lumia 920 and the next Nexus phone.
 
Yes, finally a "war" thread.

Lumia 920 makes it easy for me to stay loyal to windows phone. At this point 920 feels like what could be iphone 5s (minus the faster chipset)

Highest DPI
Fastest Screen Refresh
Only Screen that works with gloves,
Best Camera on any current smartphone for videos AND pictures
NFC
Wireless Charging
Best visibility in sunlight (according to nokia)
Best audio-recording

Then Windows Phone 8 itself:

Well over 100.000 apps in the store from the get go
Highly customizable with livetile size choice and loads of accent colors
"Lenses" for best camera customization
"True" Offline Maps and Navigation without caching the data before
Skydrive and Windows ID integration for instant access to everything from every - Windows 8 and Windows phone 8 device
And everything that made Windows Phone 7 great.


List wars is best wars. Bring it on
 
Right, but again we're talking about mostly static imagery and controls here... its not intensive to render that, regardless of whether its rendered via software or hardware. And again, we're talking about apps such as Facebook and how I believe the sluggishness blame is misplaced, not games.

Look, I am telling you why it is slower and choppy. You don't want to accept that fine. HTML5 is intensive to render. It will always be slower than a dedicated app using core API's.

The new iOS facebook app runs like a dream. The old browser based one was a dog. You don't think they tried to make it work?
 
Overdue, but this will corral soooooo much nonsense. Now there will only be one thread you need to ignore. Thank you based god.
 
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I am enjoying Flash 11.1.115.17 my 4.1.1 Jellybean on my Galaxy Nexus

can you even say that on iOS or WP?

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you can say it's being discontinued but it still works and will continue to work on my Nexus 7 and Galaxy Nexus
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Yes, finally a "war" thread.

Lumia 920 makes it easy for me to stay loyal to windows phone. At this point 920 feels like what could be iphone 5s (minus the faster chipset)

Highest DPI
Fastest Screen Refresh
Only Screen that works with gloves,
Best Camera on any current smartphone for videos AND pictures
NFC
Wireless Charging
Best visibility in sunlight (according to nokia)
Best audio-recording

Then Windows Phone 8 itself:

Well over 100.000 apps in the store from the get go
Highly customizable with livetile size choice and loads of accent colors
"Lenses" for best camera customization
"True" Offline Maps and Navigation without caching the data before
Skydrive and Windows ID integration for instant access to everything from every - Windows 8 and Windows phone 8 device
And everything that made Windows Phone 7 great.


List wars is best wars. Bring it on

I agree. I've been mobile for like 10 years, started long ago with Windows CE devices, Palm Pilots and the like. Smartphones for me were Palm Treo 650 to a 680 to a few Blackberries to an iPhone 3, then Droid, Droid Incredible, and now HTC Rezound.

I am not impressed by iOS but more important, Apple has not sucked me into the iTunes bit so I have zero loyalty or need for their platform. Android has been good to me, it gets upgrades on the OS level but the carrier upgrade process is so fucking ass backwards it has single handedly turned me off from the platform. That and I realize that Android is a computer in my pocket.. and I dont want that. No really, I do not want a goddamnt computer in my pocket.. it needs to be easier ... WAY easier and better built from the framework out. I want a phone that does other things and does them fast, integrated and in some fashion a closed sandbox to streamline everything.

I've had my eye on WP since its inception, even dabbled a bit in it. I always knew WP7 was DOA due to Win8 etc... and now that Windows 8 is here, and Windows Phone 8 is here AND the Lumia 920 is here .. I think its Microsofts time finally. I wont argue how I feel about cold hard data and facts but I will say that as a consumer who has been around the block and currently bored with Android ...

I am excited to jump to WP8 and a Lumia 920, almost like Christmas morning levels of excitement. Everything about the phone and OS looks like a true, real progression forward and not some kind of incremental iteration. Its 2012, and Windows Phone feels like the future to me. Most of my coworkers, die hard Apple or Android fans are starting to feel the same which for me is telling.

Windows Phone is the new 'thing'.

Excite
 
Yes, finally a "war" thread.

Lumia 920 makes it easy for me to stay loyal to windows phone. At this point 920 feels like what could be iphone 5s (minus the faster chipset)

Highest DPI
Fastest Screen Refresh
Only Screen that works with gloves,
Best Camera on any current smartphone for videos AND pictures
NFC
Wireless Charging
Best visibility in sunlight (according to nokia)
Best audio-recording

Then Windows Phone 8 itself:

Well over 100.000 apps in the store from the get go
Highly customizable with livetile size choice and loads of accent colors
"Lenses" for best camera customization
"True" Offline Maps and Navigation without caching the data before
Skydrive and Windows ID integration for instant access to everything from every - Windows 8 and Windows phone 8 device
And everything that made Windows Phone 7 great.


List wars is best wars. Bring it on

You forgot one an important thing.. Nokia Music is coming to US. Spotify like subscribtion without the subscribtion. Instant music streaming. No accounts, no payment, music from the get go.
 
Just like the PS3/360 debate, iOS gets by far the best version of apps. Take facebook for example, other OS's get crappy ports compared to the sleek fast iOS app. Unlike the PS3/360 ports with minor graphics and frame rate differences, app differences between iOS and other platforms is huge.
Android is getting a native facebook app soon also. The current html5 hack job version is pretty shit.
 
You forgot one an important thing.. Nokia Music is coming to US. Spotify like subscribtion without the subscribtion. Instant music streaming. No accounts, no payment, music from the get go.

Hmm? That's not the Nokia Music I know. You can stream premade playlists and skip for a limited amount of times per hour. You can't choose specific songs/playlists/albums like in Spotify. Or did I miss something?

I mean, I love it. It's ad-free, there's an offline mode, and there are great mixes. But it's hardly comparable to Spotify.

I find it hard to take advice from anyone who has a companys logo a their avatar.

Feel free to point out flaws in his post ;-)

Also, you wouldn't take advice on Nintendo from a Nintendo fan?
 
Hmm? That's not the Nokia Music I know. You can stream premade playlists and skip for a limited amount of times per hour. You can't choose specific songs/playlists/albums like in Spotify. Or did I miss something?

I mean, I love it. It's ad-free, there's an offline mode, and there are great mixes. But it's hardly comparable to Spotify.

I could have sworn Nokia mentionned something like that at their keynote, no?
 
I'm a WP man.

iOS has a crapload of apps and the strongest amount of accesories, whereas Android offers great customisation options and an incredible number of hardware choices. Windows Phone can't compare (yet), but the phones range from good to excellent and the OS fucking flies.

I'm basically the average smartphone user. I need to check my e-mail, tweet some crap, use Whatsapp, surf the web and little else; Windows Phone does more than enough to cover all my bases and then some. The OS is super nimble and fast, makes everything absurdly accesible and is basically a joy to use. Neither Android nor iOS provide me with the same level of usability and freshness, and Nokia's flagship phones are world class.

In for a white 920.

Edit: And Nokia's apps are actually awesome. Like, really fucking good, unlike the shit other companies put in their phones. Drive, Maps and Music are simply delightful.
 
i've had all the iphone's since 3g and am fully onboard with the apple eco system, apple tv, iPad, macbook etc but am going for the 920 when it comes out (unless it gets poor reviews), as its the phone that excites me the most (almost got the Lumia 800 last year but bottled it)

For android ive used the s2, s3 and the HTC one S for periods and didn't like the way Android works, it wasn't always obvious what I have to do in any given situation to do what I want to do, a problem you simply don't have with iOS or WP7 (although the HTC phone was a bit better I felt)

I've played with my friends Lumia 800 and I love the way it links your contacts and the OS itself is simply stunning to look at.


I have to fess up though to being a massive nokia fan in the past (e71 best looking/handling phone ever), I felt a traitor moving to iphone at the time going back to nokia feels like coming home!
 
If I wanted a tablet on the go, I'd wait for the iPad mini or gotten a Nexus 7. A smartphone has to be pocketable and reasonably light, not 182 grams. Might as well go the full hog and pocket a tablet in that case.
 
The fact that apps for Windows 8 RT can be run on Windows Phone 8 phones makes me giddy. I'm sure there will be a ton of high-visibility, high quality apps that will be "exclusive" to Windows Phone down the line. The fact that I can use those apps and my account is synced between my Xbox, Tablet, laptop, Desktop, and whatever else MS pushes out as well as my phone is a big winner. I'm sure devs will see that and will descend upon the RT app market like bees to their queen.

Android's customization and open endedness pretty much makes sure I'll keep an Android device (Not necessarily my main phone) for a very, very long time, however. It takes years to build these ecosystems, and I know Microsofts won't be fully steamrolling for a while. I mean, look at their Xbox Live integration. XBL runs better on my Galaxy S3 than my Venue Pro.
 
All the complaints about Androids UI are a little silly since you can customize it to look like what you want. Unless you're just staying on the topic of being completely stock. For my next phone, I'm trying to decide between Android or WP. Leaning a bit towards WP since I already have a N7 and would like to try something different.
 
If I wanted a tablet on the go, I'd wait for the iPad mini or gotten a Nexus 7. A smartphone has to be pocketable and reasonably light, not 182 grams. Might as well go the full hog and pocket a tablet in that case.

If 40 grams over an iPhone 4S is the only thing left that Apple apologists can come up with to make their case, I fear for the future of Apple.
 
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