Not even die hard Apple fans make that claim without adding in "jail breaking" somewhere. Even then, not nearly as customizable. At least have some semblance of reason.
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Not even die hard Apple fans make that claim without adding in "jail breaking" somewhere. Even then, not nearly as customizable. At least have some semblance of reason.
saltywalrus
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iOS - Steve Jobs. Stylish, but wears same clothes every day. Very controlling.
Android - Larry Page. Extremely smart but nerdy.
WP - Steve Ballmer. Talentless hack that relies on marketing to sell anything.
Android - Larry Page. Extremely smart but nerdy.
WP - Steve Ballmer. Talentless hack that relies on marketing to sell anything.
Damon Bennet
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ok, lets go back to real list wars, this new thing is boring already.
i still need someone to beat my lumia 920 list from page 2 (?) or something
i still need someone to beat my lumia 920 list from page 2 (?) or something
I've missed a lot today. This thread had me dying earlier so I had to close out of it, lol. Vox, there's clearly something wrong with your phone. Jellybean does not lag. Hell, I even get pissed when people said ICS lagged. For me, I got some stuttering on 4.0.2, but 4.0.3/4.0.4 improved a lot on that so I have no clue what the hell people are talking about. My last AOKP rom was milestone 6 +lean kernel; and it was a speed demon and barely any lag. Step up your rom game? Or stop loading 2323 widgets on 7 home screens
Have you used ANY MS product in the past two years?
I'm not a fan of Ballmer, and I could see them go down at some point, but damn, they have made some seriously great stuff recently.
As for WP being compared to a talentless hack... "LOL junior" might be nicest thing I can come up with as an answer.
Seriously Win8 and WP are very slick. That's why I compared it to sonic. Ballmer = Windows Me/Vista. If anything WP8 is the Anti-Ballmer (no developers developers developers lol)
Changing your wallpaper is a feature thats standard across all 3 platforms no? Oh sh...
Hi Gaf, reading the numerous threads we have about phones at the moment, I've come up with 2 questions:
The first one is: what kind of data plan do you have? How much do you pay and, lastly, where are you from?
For me it's: I'm in France, with a "Free Telecom" data plan that includes unlimited calls, sms, mms and data (well, my debit rate is capped after 3go of data I think) for 17/months.
The second one is related to this:
What kind of apps do you really need on your phone? I'm speaking more of 3rd party kind apps, like maybe instagram, tweetbot...this kind of things.
Because, I can't name any apps really essential for me on a phone. On my tablet, it's different, because I want it to be more versatile, so I want games on it, good comics readers and so on. Basically, on a tablet for me it would be Flipboard, Pulse, Comixology, Papers...
So please tell me what apps you absolutely need on your phone and why, I'm curious, maybe I'm missing something. Thanks!
The first one is: what kind of data plan do you have? How much do you pay and, lastly, where are you from?
For me it's: I'm in France, with a "Free Telecom" data plan that includes unlimited calls, sms, mms and data (well, my debit rate is capped after 3go of data I think) for 17/months.
The second one is related to this:
What kind of apps do you really need on your phone? I'm speaking more of 3rd party kind apps, like maybe instagram, tweetbot...this kind of things.
Because, I can't name any apps really essential for me on a phone. On my tablet, it's different, because I want it to be more versatile, so I want games on it, good comics readers and so on. Basically, on a tablet for me it would be Flipboard, Pulse, Comixology, Papers...
So please tell me what apps you absolutely need on your phone and why, I'm curious, maybe I'm missing something. Thanks!
I think what impressed me the most (apart from stuff like Kinect, WP and Surface, of course) is their online offerings. The Outlook, People (contacts) and SkyDrive web apps are so goddamn slick and fast, I would've never expected that from MS. They often run faster than a native program. And since they integrate all kinds of messaging, it's fun to see how messages from the FB chat arrive faster on Outlook.com than on facebook running alongside it.
What kind of apps do you really need on your phone? I'm speaking more of 3rd party kind apps, like maybe instagram, tweetbot...this kind of things.
Because, I can't name any apps really essential for me on a phone. On my tablet, it's different, because I want it to be more versatile, so I want games on it, good comics readers and so on. Basically, on a tablet for me it would be Flipboard, Pulse, Comixology, Papers...
So please tell me what apps you absolutely need on your phone and why, I'm curious, maybe I'm missing something. Thanks!
It's not really a "need" since I know people who don't have that many apps on their phone.
It's more so a sense of comfort knowing that the phone (i.e.: iPhone) will always have good support for apps (since iOS users pay for apps), which leads to higher quality apps as well as just more apps.
It all comes down to preference in terms of the apps you should have on your phone. Here's my home screen showing the apps that I have:
...I have a good amount.
My goodness, how do you put up with tapping twice for a phone call???
LyleLanley
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Who the hell uses their phone for calling people?
I don't make that many phone calls
And it really isn't that bad. Just an extra tap.
Don't let coldfoot hear you.
Coldfoot and old people who can't hit a button, apparently.
I don't make that many phone calls
And it really isn't that bad. Just an extra tap.
Are you sure? According to Coldfoot, you basically risk your whole phone with an extra tap!
OK, I'll stop now
I don't make that many phone calls
And it really isn't that bad. Just an extra tap.
Your iOS credentials have been revoked sorry
Given that they download 100 apps on the average, I'd say a few?
I doubt many of them hide their phone's killer app behind an extra tap though.
Talking about Vox's images above, jailbraking, etc.
That wasn't the question though. He was ragging on iOS saying it wasnt customizable. In my experience iOS was a lot more lenient with things you can do. I just happen to not like the stale stock OS of either platform.
currently rocking this on my gnex, need to change it up though
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Yep that lovely lovely wallpaper[/QUOTE]
Don't you lose your warranty doing that? Dunno if I'd necessarily call that customization in a way that you could chalk up to iOS.
Yep that lovely lovely wallpaper
That lovely jailbreak... again, let me know when apple allows you to do more than change your wallpaper. I mean you can use your own songs as ringtones right?
Well it only takes 5 minutes to change it back to stock iOS so I don't see how it would cause any issues. Pretty much the same as flashing your Android back and forth to stock or different roms/kernels.
What's your point? Manufacturers lock their bootloaders to keep you from doing anything on their phones and theres a whole community dedicated finding workarounds. This isn't any different. Let me know when you get something simple like pinch to zoom in email.
That wasn't the question though. He was ragging on iOS saying it wasnt customizable. In my experience iOS was a lot more lenient with things you can do. I just happen to not like the stale stock OS of either platform.
currently rocking this on my gnex, need to change it up though
Super sexy. What's it called? Link?
It's just stock Jelly Bean with some icon changes for folders and apps.
http://justreveal.net/2012/08/31/freshnclean-sprmnml-icons/
is the icons.
The clock is minimalistic text app and the forecast is the widget for an app called weather eye.
Minimal Reader Pro also has a nice looking widget on the Play Store.
So you're telling me I have to unlock my boot loader to change my ringtone? Change my default browser? Access to quick settings in my notification area? Get useful info from my lock screen? Remove all of my icons from the home screen because the hides my wallpaper? I mean... is all of that really worth voiding my warranty for? I'll have to ponder on this a bit more.
You can do all the things on the iPhone and revert back with a click of 1 button if needed. Don't get mad cause you're too lazy.
Oh definitely not...most people who are into that stuff probably get an Android phone.
Mad? Nah.. Lazy? Far from. Just don't think its worth the risk of voiding my warranty to do simple things that should be standard on a mobile OS like... changing my ringtone to a song I already own? Export contacts to my sim card? You know... things that even dumb phones have been doing for ages.
LyleLanley
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I don't think I've ever seen a case where someone actually did something so bad to their phone via jailbreaking where a simple device format wouldn't protect them from losing their warranty.
And Export contacts to sim? That's a big feature now? What is this the 80s? Upload you're contacts to an online service or back it up to your computer like a modern human being.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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I'm stuck between the one x/s3. Please help me GAF
One is way hot, one is the ugliest current top of the line smartphone. How hard can this decision really be?
You can actually do that on the iPhone with an app called "Ringer".
What kind of apps do you really need on your phone? I'm speaking more of 3rd party kind apps, like maybe instagram, tweetbot...this kind of things.
Because, I can't name any apps really essential for me on a phone. On my tablet, it's different, because I want it to be more versatile, so I want games on it, good comics readers and so on. Basically, on a tablet for me it would be Flipboard, Pulse, Comixology, Papers...
So please tell me what apps you absolutely need on your phone and why, I'm curious, maybe I'm missing something. Thanks!
I used a Windows Phone 7 phone for 6 months before going back to Android. I need my Yahoo fantasy football app, and a lot of smaller credit unions and banks don't have an app. No the website for either of those is not a good substitute.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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I think the one x is a much better looking/better built phone. It's screen also takes a complete shit on the s3 screen. S3 feels cheap and plasticity to me. In fact the only reason why I'm considering a s3 is because it has 2 gb of ram. Better build quality/screen or a extra gb of ram?
Build quality/screen. Well I dunno. I'm not that big of an Android user. Things were speedy when I had the Nexus 7 for a couple days with 1GB of RAM. Of course that had shit build quality so it went back 4 times. All these phones nowadays are the same when it comes to performance unless you like bragging about geeky benchmark numbers. You won't notice a difference day to day.
Don't even need an app, you can just make a 30 seconds (or less) .m4r file on iTunes with any song you want and it will be recognized as a ringtone. It could obviously be easier but it's a fairly quick and painless process from my experience.
lastflowers
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Fantasy ferret works as a yahoo app. Not the best, but it'll do.
EightBitNate
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Does anyone else think Windows Phone might look even better if it allowed wallpapers on the homescreen?
First inclination, I wanna say, hell no. But we already have black and white, I'm somewhat fine with a few more solid color options.
This is the shortcuts on my notification screen. It's always one flip away from any where. And I can do this without rooting or flashing roms. Until I can do it on a different platform, these platforms are not nearly as customizaable as Android 4.0.
Keep in mind that I am not just using it as pointer to apps, I can directly call shortcuts within the apps. The subway icon doesn't just open the MTA app, it goes directly to the subway map of the app. And the sync logo trigger a sync between an internal folder and a specific dropbox folder.
And the tether switch is extremely useful too.
I didn't thought of the bank apps, seeing as I use mine very often, that's a very legitimate point. Thanks!
And no facebook app, that's surprising.
More cores != better performance. It's been like that for desktops and the same is true for mobile units. I had this discussion recently with a die hard android fanboy (which apparently are going with Lumia 920 after arguing with me) which lead me to look up Parallel programming and how it works.
Also, looking at XDA-Developer, most seem to agree that the integration and the closed OS given by Apple and Windows still performs better than the openness that Android offer, even though hardware wise Android phones are leading.
Android were created to support a lot of different devices (meaning a range of hardware), while iOS and WPx have known, set hardware that is easier to manage.
This is why you see iOS/WPx phones perform the same (or better) than Android phones, with what some would call "legacy hardware". At least in terms of real life performance and not in synthetic benchmarks.
The integration and implementation that iOS/WPx brings to the table is far more interesting than having x amount of cores, especially if it means its a hassle for the developers to utilize/not really utilizing at all (see parallel programming).
This is complete nonsense. Of course more having more cores increases performance in multithreaded applications, its just not a linear increase like some people expect it to be when they hear "dual-core" and "quad-core".
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