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Android Thread - 2011 Edition | Stuffed on Gingerbread, Hungry for Honeycomb!

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giga said:
Apart from a widget enabled desktop, the UI is pretty similar to iOS for iPad.
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That's what i thought when i watched the video. The email format looks about the same.
 
bathala said:
Can u listen to Pandora while using different apps?
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Please let's not do this. I too am thoroughly excited about a proper android tablet with none of the ipad restrictions, but bringing up a tit for tat debate isn't doings anyone favors here.
 
giga said:
Apart from a widget enabled desktop, the UI is pretty similar to iOS for iPad.
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I'd actually agree. Talking with my android friends on vent right now, and we are mixed. The 1st pic with the icons looks rather meh, but the 2nd pic looks better. The general interface seems alot like what we already have Android wise. The bright spot is the widgets looks solid, and really well implemented. Key is will all widgets look that good.

Totakeke said:
The UI layout is still pretty standard for the most part in that video, but the graphics are pretty nice looking for a change. Definitely would like to see more.
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I'd agree with this. UI looks pretty standard, but I'd agree the graphics look snazzy.
 
kinggroin said:
Please let's not do this. I too am thoroughly excited about a proper android tablet with none of the ipad restrictions, but bringing up a tit for tat debate isn't doings anyone favors here.
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if u read the comment on previous page. its a legitimate question.
 
I'd say widgets alone is a fairly key feature to be impressed with.

Also the browser looks very much like chrome. Which I like. A lot.
 
giga said:
Apart from a widget enabled desktop, the UI is pretty similar to iOS for iPad.
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The lack of widgets is a significant part of why I've been underwhelmed with iPad. Home screens that are useful for something more than just icon repositories are a pretty important distinction, IMO.
 
gkryhewy said:
I must be missing something. I don't see anything in that video that's superior to iPad in any way, aside from flash support. I mean, it looks great, but it looks equivalent.

(sent from my iPad, which I use as my primary home computer...)
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Widgets, tabbed browsing for starters...
 
kaching said:
The lack of widgets is a significant part of why I've been underwhelmed with iPad. Home screens that are useful for something more than just icon repositories are a pretty important distinction, IMO.
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I agree, I’m a huge fan of widgets too and rely on Dashboard quite a bit on my Mac. I have no idea why they haven’t taken what they already know from OS X and put it in iOS. A simple multi-touch gesture is all they need.
 
josephdebono said:
I'd say widgets alone is a fairly key feature to be impressed with.
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Cosign.


Ephemeris
Widgets Defense Force.


Being productive without even jumping into an app = win for me.
 
Comparing this Android to Android though doesn't you know Android already have widgets? This is just widgets scaled to tablet size with a slight change in UI placement. How much different is this functionality wise than what Gingerbread could already do?
 
Well you are in the Android thread...

Don't tell me people get surprised there's an Android defense force in the Android thread.

I, for one, for example, find "other" homescreens similar to going to my pc, doing a search for *.exe, and then creating a shortcut to all of them on my desktop. I wouldn't like that. Other people do. Let me be happy in the thread which celebrates stuff I like goddammit.
 
I don't think that video is actually a great teaser for Honeycomb. They zoomed through the basic UI, spent way too much time highlighting books (look! paper-like page turns! YEAWWWWNNN). Tabbed browser looked nice, but they spent too little time on that too. Most interesting thing in that video were the base UI changes and the new Google Talk client.
 
Damn, I think I see a Honeycomb tablet, probably 7", in my future (to go with my windows phone, this message typed from my mum's iPad, which I also love!)
 
gkryhewy said:
Oh god, it's you. I know better than to engage you on this.

Hooray for more tablets, anyway.
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So are you trying to say that the iPad does have widgets and tabbed browsing? Or that they aren't a big deal? I can't imagine anyone complaining about tabbed browsing....

Or are you just refusing to acknowlege a valid point?
 
I'm in the android thread because I completely love android (even though I also love my iPad) and am in the market for my next android phone.

ZZMitch said:
Nice response to completely valid complaints against the iPad
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Agreed on widgets; the iPad has tabbed browsing. Marty is legendary in the iPad thread.
 
kaching said:
I don't think that video is actually a great teaser for Honeycomb. They zoomed through the basic UI, spent way too much time highlighting books (look! paper-like page turns! YEAWWWWNNN). Tabbed browser looked nice, but they spent too little time on that too. Most interesting thing in that video were the base UI changes and the new Google Talk client.
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Well they can’t release all their secrets before iOS 5 is out. ;)
 
gkryhewy said:
I'm in the android thread because I completely love android (even though I also love my iPad) and am in the market for my next android phone.



Agreed on widgets; the iPad has tabbed browsing. Marty is legendary in the iPad thread.
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iPad has the equivelant of multiple browser windows and hitting ALT-TAB to select a different browser window. Honeycomb is more like tabbed browsing like we know it today on a desktop. There's a difference.
 
Brettison said:
Comparing this Android to Android though doesn't you know Android already have widgets?
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Well, yes, but that wasn't the comparison made.

This is just widgets scaled to tablet size with a slight change in UI placement. How much different is this functionality wise than what Gingerbread could already do?
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We don't really know that yet. The functionality could be improved in a number of ways over the way widgets are currently handled in the 2.x versions of Android. For example, widgets can't have scrollable areas in stock 2.x Android. If they added that to Honeycomb, I would certainly appreciate the improvement.
 
gkryhewy said:
I'm in the android thread because I completely love android (even though I also love my iPad) and am in the market for my next android phone.



Agreed on widgets; the iPad has tabbed browsing. Marty is legendary in the iPad thread.
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Ok that's fine, I haven't really used an iPad that much so I didn't lnow if it had tabbed browsing. I just assumed it didn't based on his comment. Sorry!
 
ZZMitch said:
Ok that's fine, I haven't really used an iPad that much so I didn't lnow if it had tabbed browsing. I just assumed it didn't based on his comment. Sorry!
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It doesn't have tabbed browsing. It has multiple browser windows.

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Here's what it looks like:

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You hit a button to bring up the list of browser windows, and you select which window you want. To say it has tabbed browsing is like saying you hit the icon on the Start Menu on your task bar and select whch browser window you want. Nobody on a desktop would call that tabbed browsing.
 
kaching said:
Well, yes, but that wasn't the comparison made.
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Well I was sort of you know making my own comparison. As someone else said the video was short and quick hit so I was just trying to find out what the big jump from gingerbread is in terms of core functionality. :P
 
I just want a tablet with real multi tasking, flash support, proper Google applications/services integration, standard inter connects like usb/hdmi etc.

I got an ipad (32gig 3g) for the family recently, and I love it. But I definitely want more after after using Android for a year now with my nexus one. There are so many little things that I can easily do with Android as compared to iOS.

I like the multi desks setup like what Android currently has, but I was hoping for more of the widget paradigm. I want to be able to shrink a video on the tablet, and watch/surf at the same time. I want sticky widget ability that will let me go from desk to desk, but a widget/app stay fixed to my "current" view. Android needs to let the multi tasking shine, instead of hiding it.

Also, the startup roll up text of this video makes it look fake. Looks somewhat amateur.
 
Brettison said:
Well I was sort of you know making my own comparison. As someone else said the video was short and quick hit so I was just trying to find out what the big jump from gingerbread is in terms of core functionality. :P
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Still, comparing iOS to iOS and Android to Android the changes are more drastic/visible in the Android IMO and this thread as it is now (i.e. as a general Android thread) is a fraction of the size of the orgasms taking place in the 'Apple Event' thread when they showed, basically the same OS on a larger device.


reKon said:
Someone tell me why I should get the newer better performing tablets compared to the newer better performing netbooks (http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1934705/hp-announces-amd-fusion-notebook). Go!
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You shouldn't really. Netbooks are still superior for most things (mostly because you can install a 'proper' OS)
 
Brettison said:
Well I was sort of you know making my own comparison. As someone else said the video was short and quick hit so I was just trying to find out what the big jump from gingerbread is in terms of core functionality. :P
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Quite a few changes, actually, based on that video.
 
Marty Chinn said:
iPad has the equivelant of multiple browser windows and hitting ALT-TAB to select a different browser window. Honeycomb is more like tabbed browsing like we know it today on a desktop. There's a difference.
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Why are you doing this to me? There are a bunch of iPad browsers with actual tabs. But that's a pretty subtle distinction. I'm just surprised that they aren't doing anything to really differentiate the android tablets in a more overt way.
 
Man, I would love to have a "hands-on" preview of honeymoon. I imagine that I'll be giggling like a schoolgirl the first time I get to try it out myself.
 
gkryhewy said:
Why are you doing this to me? There are a bunch of iPad browsers with actual tabs. But that's a pretty subtle distinction. I'm just surprised that they aren't doing anything to really differentiate the android tablets in a more overt way.
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Well I'm going based off Safari which is the standard iPad browser, the default browser, and the browser that will pop up when I click on any links in any other app. I think that's a fair comparison unless you can use a third party browser as the default browser which I don't think you can. I still use Safari on my iPhone and the iPad.

Why am I doing this? You posted in an Android thread somehow trying to imply what I said wasn't true. They both were a valid point.
 
I've been thinking. To be fair, Froyo (even 2.1 !) works pretty well on tablets. Just not optimized. Honeycomb is nice, but it's not like without it android tablets suck or something.
 
So if I get this correctly the argument here is basically as follows:

Apart from the distinctions which already existed between iOS and Android and some new things added to this latest Android version, iOS and Android are exactly the same.​

Cause in that case, yeah. True.
 
Marty Chinn said:
It doesn't have tabbed browsing. It has multiple browser windows.

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Here's what it looks like:

Thumbnails-view-in-iPad-Safari.jpg


You hit a button to bring up the list of browser windows, and you select which window you want. To say it has tabbed browsing is like saying you hit the icon on the Start Menu on your task bar and select whch browser window you want. Nobody on a desktop would call that tabbed browsing.
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lbcyalater said:
My gf has the samsung fascinate, can anyone tell me why the hell that phone is still on 2.1?
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Cause Samsung has royally screwed up with the getting updates out on each Carrier for the Galaxy S in the US?
 
LET US CONTROL CACHEING FOR THESE 3D MAPS I WANT MANHATTAN IN THE PALM OF MY HAND.
 
TMO's thing is tomorrow, yes? Am I correct in thinking there's been nothing for TMO announced through the manufacturer events?
 
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