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Animator on kids cartoon 'My Little Pony' arrested for child porn.

TrainedRage

Banned
https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/ottawa-animator-sent-to-prison-on-child-porn-charges

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm5563062/


An Ottawa artist who helped animate children’s TV shows has been sentenced to 28 months in prison for possessing more than 60,000 images of child pornography and sharing them online.

Tom Wysom, 55, has worked on TV productions such as My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic and Littlest Pet Shop, according to the Internet Movie Database.



...I wonder if he will claim he was storing the images as "jokes"? :unsure:
 

Dr. Claus

Vincit qui se vincit
28 months for peddling child pornography? That seems really light for such a serious crime. I know he is in his mid fifties, but damn.
 

ickythingz

Banned
Please note: a group trying to hijack a political movement does not mean the movement endorses, supports or accepts them.
I worry that so many people in the entertainment industry are pedophiles that more and more will be caught and cause the public to become immune to hating these crimes. The more common place something becomes, the more it blends into the background of society and gets lost in the noise. "Soon, calling someone a pedophile will be considered an intolerable insult because you are not allowing them to fondle your children. The left is already pushing this and it is getting worse.
 
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I worry that so many people in the entertainment industry are pedophiles that more and more will be caught and cause the public to become immune to hating these crimes. The more common place something becomes, the more it blends into the background of society and gets lost in the noise. With the LGBTQ community now embracing pedophiles as part of their group, there will be more children hurt and the left will not blink an eye at the issue due to everyone being "equal". Soon, calling someone a pedophile will be considered an intolerable insult because you are not allowing them to fondle your children. The left is already pushing this and it is getting worse.
by any chance, are you talking about this?
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KevinKeene

Banned
I worry that so many people in the entertainment industry are pedophiles that more and more will be caught and cause the public to become immune to hating these crimes. The more common place something becomes, the more it blends into the background of society and gets lost in the noise. With the LGBTQ community now embracing pedophiles as part of their group, there will be more children hurt and the left will not blink an eye at the issue due to everyone being "equal". Soon, calling someone a pedophile will be considered an intolerable insult because you are not allowing them to fondle your children. The left is already pushing this and it is getting worse.

You're a hateful person. The number of pedophiles is actually MUCH higher than most of you think. This is a 2014-article from BBC:

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-28526106

Even using their strictest, lowest estimate, they (btw these psychologists were from Ottawa, too, coincidentally), we have a percentage of 0.5 to 1% pedophiles. In more tangible form: If you have 200 people with you, you can be sure that 1-2 of them are bonafide pedophiles who are attracted to prepubescent children.

You can now extrapolate that to the whole of society: the USA have 250 mio residents. So there's 1.25 to 2.5 million pedophiles just in the United States. Extrapolating to a global scale and with 7 bio people, you arrive at 35 to 70 million pedophiles on earth.

The point of showing these numbers is: pedophiles aren't these rare monsters that secretly hurt children. Those are just the criminals that get caught. The number of pedophiles raping children is probably not higher than men raping women, we just don't see the non-criminal ones. The vast majority of pedophiles go on living their lives, hiding in fear, because they know how pedophiles are treated by society, no matter how law-abiding they live. That's why it's so shitty to condemn them in an internet posting, because they have no means at all to defend themselves. The moment a pedophile came out and told you "I've never hurt a child and never would", you'd just ignore him and try your hardest to ruin his life - no matter how good of a person that pedophile is, because all you can see is your prejudiced view. Hell, I'm sure some will call ME a pedophile after reading this posting, because that's aleays what happens: Accuse those who discuss the topic of pedophilia with reason and logic to be pedophiles themselves - instantly shurs down the debate, because the debate would be umcomfortable and we can't have that :/

I've talked about this with friends before: the best way to protect children AND save pedophiles from the enormous stress of all the permanent fear they're living in would be to accept that these are mostly normal people with a very unfortunate sexual attraction. But without unfairly demonizing them, they could reveal themselves, seek help if necessary, and voluntarily abstain from jobs where they'd work in close proximity to kids. Right now, they're forced to hide, thus enabling real predators to use the situation and get closer to their prey. And we'll only find out when it's too late.

To conclude: you can bet on that there's many pedophiles in Hollywood. Also in your larger circle of friends. And you walk by pedophiles every day on your way to work. They're not rare. They just hide from prejudice. Would be cool if we could change that some day (addendum: it shouldn't be necessary to write this, but knowing how people react to postings such as this: no, 'change' does not mean 'legalization of sex with children'. That's a crime and rightfully so).
 
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SLoWMoTIoN

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Power of friendship!

I've talked about this with friends before: the best way to protect children AND save pedophiles from the enormous stress of all the permanent fear they're living in would be to accept that these are mostly normal people with a very unfortunate sexual attraction. But without unfairly demonizing them, they could reveal themselves, seek help if necessary, and voluntarily abstain from jobs where they'd work in close proximity to kids. Right now, they're forced to hide, thus enabling real predators to use the situation and get closer to their prey. And we'll only find out when it's too late.
Dude...
 
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Ailynn

Faith - Hope - Love
With the LGBTQ community now embracing pedophiles as part of their group, there will be more children hurt and the left will not blink an eye at the issue due to everyone being "equal".

I can assure you that pedophilia does not find support or acceptance among the LGBTQ+ community.
 

SatansReverence

Hipster Princess
I can assure you that pedophilia does not find support or acceptance among the LGBTQ+ community.

Correction, your part of the community.

Are the pedosexual supporters a majority or even significant part of the broader community? Probably not.

It's almost like the slippery slope was actually real. This is the logical conclusion of "inclusiveness".
 

AfricanKing

Member
The more common place something becomes, the more it blends into the background of society and gets lost in the noise. With the LGBTQ community now embracing pedophiles as part of their group, there will be more children hurt and the left will not blink an eye at the issue due to everyone being "equal". Soon, calling someone a pedophile will be considered an intolerable insult because you are not allowing them to fondle your children. The left is already pushing this and it is getting worse.

Do you have evidence to support this comment.
 

Bergoglio

Member
I can assure you that pedophilia does not find support or acceptance among the LGBTQ+ community.
First of all, Sorry for my English, but take this statement seriously.


For now, the consensus wall still seems to be solid, but let's not forget that a pedophile has been nominated by the American Senate. Not only that, we also remember what Dr. Daniel Amen told CBN about the fact that in the fifth edition of the "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Illness" people spoke of pedophilia as "sexual orientation", a term then deleted by the American Psychiatric Association. According to the doctor, in fact, these people are ill and "need treatment". Above all, he must know that his inclination is abnormal because if pedophilia "is difficult to treat", according to the doctor's opinion, it is possible for a pedophile to change when he believes that his behavior is wrong and when he really wants it.

But they are just speeches that can not be done today, on pain of questioning the whole construct on which the normalization of homosexuality was also founded. Therefore it will be increasingly difficult to oppose the destructive thesis that "pedophiles are born".
The LGBT community condemns pedophilia publicly without being able to give theoretical justifications in this regard, except that "do not touch the children". But beyond believing or not, given the large amount of homosexual abuse on minors, this statement is not enough. Starting from their assumption, "people born gay", it is impossible to really condemn the statement of the MAPs.

This is stated by The Prevention Network, which should prevent child abuse, but which in fact calls into question the classification of pedophilia as a psychiatric disorder.

According to the network we should talk about these people as MAPs not necessarily dangerous:


http://www.thepreventionproject.org/maps/

It seems a seemingly good approach to these self-proclaimed children's defenders, where we try to help the offender to prevent the offense, but we are not naive: what would happen to use a language that is a good one? it would only be the normalization of attractions towards the little ones. Because making the perpetrators appear as the victims of the bigoted and closed system, little by little one would come to believe that this could be born. And what will be the next step if pedophilia is no longer seen as a serious and dangerous disorder to treat? Of course, admitting that it can be cured would remain a mole for the scientific / university ideology that maintains that sexual orientation is innate and unchanging regardless of biological sex, but the consequences would be devastating. Perhaps what makes us rest assured is that in the social imaginary, pedophilia is still considered an unacceptable perversion, but the problem that this intellectual movement is expanding more than is possible.
Stop saying that pedophilia is not natural but the result of a wound, perhaps a harassment, and that "we could all be born pedophiles" is not the beginning of prevention and liberation, but of the normalization of the pedophile. It is no coincidence that this is exactly what the LGBT movement has convinced the world to succeed in getting accepted. Even the victimization of those who try attractions for children is not the way to curb the damage, but only the fall of the umpteen post of natural law, the only barrier to human weakness and perversion.
Therefore it is very dangerous when one says that one should not stigmatize pedophilia, otherwise, for example, they are prevented from "telling their children that they can not go to the beach because there may be children in bathing suits ... they can never be completely honest with somebody else". For the new scientific-academic ideology, pedophiles can never change their orientation, therefore they must be understood. While we are asked to change our refusal for pedophilia. A beautiful contradiction, the umpteenth, consequence of a movement that rejects the objective and natural data, the wounds, the choices and the freedom and that denies the reality and the biological data as objective.
 

mneuro

Member
You're a hateful person. The number of pedophiles is actually MUCH higher than most of you think. This is a 2014-article from BBC:

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-28526106

Even using their strictest, lowest estimate, they (btw these psychologists were from Ottawa, too, coincidentally), we have a percentage of 0.5 to 1% pedophiles. In more tangible form: If you have 200 people with you, you can be sure that 1-2 of them are bonafide pedophiles who are attracted to prepubescent children.

You can now extrapolate that to the whole of society: the USA have 250 mio residents. So there's 1.25 to 2.5 million pedophiles just in the United States. Extrapolating to a global scale and with 7 bio people, you arrive at 35 to 70 million pedophiles on earth.

The point of showing these numbers is: pedophiles aren't these rare monsters that secretly hurt children. Those are just the criminals that get caught. The number of pedophiles raping children is probably not higher than men raping women, we just don't see the non-criminal ones. The vast majority of pedophiles go on living their lives, hiding in fear, because they know how pedophiles are treated by society, no matter how law-abiding they live. That's why it's so shitty to condemn them in an internet posting, because they have no means at all to defend themselves. The moment a pedophile came out and told you "I've never hurt a child and never would", you'd just ignore him and try your hardest to ruin his life - no matter how good of a person that pedophile is, because all you can see is your prejudiced view. Hell, I'm sure some will call ME a pedophile after reading this posting, because that's aleays what happens: Accuse those who discuss the topic of pedophilia with reason and logic to be pedophiles themselves - instantly shurs down the debate, because the debate would be umcomfortable and we can't have that :/

I've talked about this with friends before: the best way to protect children AND save pedophiles from the enormous stress of all the permanent fear they're living in would be to accept that these are mostly normal people with a very unfortunate sexual attraction. But without unfairly demonizing them, they could reveal themselves, seek help if necessary, and voluntarily abstain from jobs where they'd work in close proximity to kids. Right now, they're forced to hide, thus enabling real predators to use the situation and get closer to their prey. And we'll only find out when it's too late.

To conclude: you can bet on that there's many pedophiles in Hollywood. Also in your larger circle of friends. And you walk by pedophiles every day on your way to work. They're not rare. They just hide from prejudice. Would be cool if we could change that some day (addendum: it shouldn't be necessary to write this, but knowing how people react to postings such as this: no, 'change' does not mean 'legalization of sex with children'. That's a crime and rightfully so).

There is no reason or logic to pedophilia. There should be a stigma, and we should never normalize it and learn to accept these people. I'm going to guess anyone who says this stuff in defense of pedophiles does not have children.
 

SatansReverence

Hipster Princess
There is no reason or logic to pedophilia. There should be a stigma, and we should never normalize it and learn to accept these people.
There is no reason or logic to Homosexuality. There should be a stigma, and we should never normalize it and learn to accept these people.
There is no reason or logic to transexuality. There should be a stigma, and we should never normalize it and learn to accept these people.
There is no reason or logic to *insert literally any sexual preference other than straight*. There should be a stigma, and we should never normalize it and learn to accept these people.
 

KevinKeene

Banned
There is no reason or logic to pedophilia. There should be a stigma, and we should never normalize it and learn to accept these people.

Everything about that is wrong. No reason and logic? So pedophilia just happens because ... of the devil? Go read up on psychology, since you won't listen to what I'd say.

And why should we not not accept innocent, peaceful people? You're already doing it! Read the BBC-link I cited. Are you afraid to educate yourself on an uncomfortable topic or do you think the BBC is lying? If neither of these, you should understand why stigmatizing pedophiles makes no sense.

I'm going to guess anyone who says this stuff in defense of pedophiles does not have children.

Only if anyone who says stuff like yours isn't human, because the lack of empathy is frightening.
 

Mohonky

Member
There is no reason or logic to pedophilia. There should be a stigma, and we should never normalize it and learn to accept these people. I'm going to guess anyone who says this stuff in defense of pedophiles does not have children.

Well that's the point is it not? Sexual attraction is not reasonable or logical. The point is you can demonise it as much as you want, but if someone is sexually aroused by children it's not a conscious decision and it's not going to just stop because they know its wrong. There are still countries where homosexuality carries a death penalty; do you think it stops people being attracted to the same sex?

The point Keene was getting at is that you basically have 2 options;

1. You allow people with undesired sexual urges to get treatment without being made out to be monsters that need to go straight to jail / be ostracised entirely
or
2. You put your head in the sand and hope that someone who is a paedophile has the mental resolve to not act on their impulses

There are people who are sexually aroused by children (and you probably know some) that may never act out on it, in which case that's not an actual issue, but we're talking about having at least some safety for those who are struggling with those urges to have avenues to seek help rather than simply putting them in a cage which results in others simply not seeking help and in turn perhaps acting out on their impulses because they have never been able to find coping mechanisms or other methods of suppressing them.
 

SatansReverence

Hipster Princess
1. You allow people with undesired sexual urges to get treatment without being made out to be monsters that need to go straight to jail / be ostracised entirely
or
2. You put your head in the sand and hope that someone who is a paedophile has the mental resolve to not act on their impulses

This post is intended to be additive to the quoted one... Not actual questions I'm asking...

1A. And accept that people will seek to treat other sexual preference due to not being "normal"

3. You accept sexual preference is nothing more than a personal choice and lose any sort of victim mentality attached to it
 
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Dunki

Member
The Problem we are dealing with her is that people believe that if you are a pedophile you are going to molest children no matter what and that is not true. It is a mental disorder often also caused thorugh sexual abuse in your childhood. According to psychology today at least 5% of men are pedophiles. And most of them will never touch a child because they know its bad and also know that they will never ever have a real relationship in their lives. They did not chose to become pedophiles. And we should deal with them like we deal with everyone who has a mental illness or disorder. Trying to help them. To understand this I often show this video which is probably disturbing to some but also very intersting And no you will not be tracked or whatever there is no NSFW material in it either

 
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klosos

Member
Well i can understand a few comments here being rational when it comes to non offending pedophiles , i get that from a point of empathy and the struggle these people must go through on a daily basis. However when anything gets reported ,when a Child is the Victim nothing gets me as worked up and turns my stomach as that , there will be no amount of data or graphs or even experts spouting off will ever change my mind that this people who sexual Touch or aggressively touch children are absolutely fucking scum.

my only wish is that these pedophiles was put in with general population when i prison then we can see how touchy feely they are.

also i used to work in a hospital in London with a pediatric ward , i went in there once to collect files and that's the last time i went there , seeing children with tubes in them is the most heartbreaking thing you will ever see i wouldn't wish it on anyone , maybe that's another reason i get quite irrational when talking about this kinds of subjects
 
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KevinKeene

Banned
The Problem we are dealing with her is that people believe that if you are a pedophile you are going to molest children no matter what and that is not true. It is a mental disorder often also caused thorugh sexual abuse in your childhood. According to psychology today at least 5% of men are pedophiles. And most of them will never touch a child because they know its bad and also know that they will never ever have a real relationship in their lives. They did not chose to become pedophiles. And we should deal with them like we deal with everyone who has a mental illness or disorder. Trying to help them.

That's the issue and the reason I'm emphazising the BBC-article (there are many similar ones): people aren't aware of how how widespread pedophilia really is. They like to believe that there's a handful of monsters out there, eventually getting caught by the police, and that's it. That most child molesters are far away in south-east asia, because everything is nasty there, so their belief.

That there's actually a general percentage of 0.5 to 5 % of pedophiles everywhere around the globe is unkown to them - and they don't want to know. Because if they accept these huge numbers, they'd have to change their hateful stance against pedophiles - and it feels so good to demonize them. Pedophiles cannot defend themselves and shouting about protecting children always sounds good, duh :/

Most pedophiles don't rape children. That needs to be understood. Just like most men don't rape women - we don't lock up all men in favor of protecting women, do we?
 

Dunki

Member
Well i can understand a few comments here being rational when it comes to non offending pedophiles , i get that from a point of empathy and the struggle these people must go through on a daily basis. However when anything gets reported ,when a Child is the Victim nothing gets me as worked up and turns my stomach as that , there will be no amount of data from Data or graphs or even experts spouting off will ever change my mind that this people who sexual Touch or aggressively touch children are absolutely fucking scum.

my only wish is that these pedophiles was put in with general population when i prison then we can see how touchy feely they are.

also i used to work in a hospital in London with a pediatric ward , i went in there once to collect files and that's the last time i went there , seeing children with tubes in them is the most heartbreaking thing you will ever see i wouldn't wish it on anyone , maybe that's another reason i get quite irrational when talking about this kinds of subjects
But in this part we are not talking about pedophiles but criminals. And that is the big difference. Yeah It means that you are attracted to young children not that you will attack them. As for the rest. I agree with you. The one acting on it should have no mercy and be put into cells and never let out. And this goes also with ownng real childporn because somewhere this child had to suffer through photos videos etc.
 
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Mohonky

Member
1A. And accept that people will seek to treat other sexual preference due to not being "normal"

3. You accept sexual preference is nothing more than a personal choice and lose any sort of victim mentality attached to it


So tell me....do / can you get sexually aroused at the thought of someone of the same sex?
 

SatansReverence

Hipster Princess
So tell me....do / can you get sexually aroused at the thought of someone of the same sex?

Do you mean in a general sense or for me specifically?

In general. Yes, it is entirely possible. You can even be sexually attracted to inanimate objects.

Do I get sexually aroused by same sex thoughts etc. No, no I don't.

the chart I i posted was from 4chan if you guys about talking about it. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/lgbtp-adding-letter/

The idea that this is all about trying to link Homosexuality with Paedophilia beyond it being about simple sexual attraction is disingenuous from the start.

And citing huffpo... I mean... Huff po.......
 
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Dunki

Member
I'm asking you if you can. If you personally can be aroused by the thought of someone of the same sex?
ven aroused by a hole in a wall. what does this even mean?^^

There are tons of fetishes and sexual desires. Latex, rubber, animals, feces etc. So your answer would be yes you can get aroused by everything that exist and does not even exist XD
 
A thread about a pedo arrested for child porn and then we have some defending pedophelia as an "orientation".

This thread will be a handy reference any time someone wants to do a drive-by claiming GAF is full-blown "alt-Right".
 
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Dunki

Member
A thread about a pedo arrested for child porn and then we have some defending pedophelia as an "orientation".

This thread will be a handy reference any time someone wants to do a drive-by claiming GAF is full-blown "alt-Right".
It is not an orientation. It is a mental disorder or mental illness and that we should treat these people like they have a problem and that they need professional help. Making them look like a monster is not the right way to do it.
 
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SatansReverence

Hipster Princess
You said no you don't, but I'm asking 'can' you?

You alluded to sexuality as a choice, there in you could choose to be sexually aroused by someone of the same sex yeh?

Oh I was adding hypotheticals to your post.

I don't understand. Are you saying that the article snopes posted cannot be held credible because they got it from huffpost? They (snopes)linked to the original thread from 4chan.

It makes the entire article drip with disgusting agenda instead of objectivity.
 
It is not an orientation. It is a mental disorder or mental illness and that we should treat these people like they have a problem and that they need professional help. Making them look like a monster is not the right way to do it.
Consider my perspective: we have constant whining how the "alt-Right" has infiltrated GAF because there are posts in threads about Treyvon Martin regarding IQ (which were moderated) or not-hateful posts about Trump (clearly we're Nazis!).

And then here we have a thread about a criminal getting caught with child porn and yet we find defense of pedophiles when the subject of the thread is a criminal. Boggles the mind. #notallpedos. We wouldn't see news articles about other crimes (spousal abuse, theft, murder, etc) getting treated with such sympathy.

Also, I do not ascribe to the notion that "making them look like a monster is not the right way to do it". Vilifying awful behavior is exactly how we've done it and it has done a pretty good job of expunging some pretty awful behaviors from the past. Any person who has any sexual attraction to children should feel repulsed by that side of themselves. The lack of repulsion is what creates room in their psyche for the attraction in the first place. Does it mean the person should live in constant shame? No. It means they should seek out help, I agree.

The other issue is that child trafficking is a very real thing. I can't help but see a much darker side of all this "sympathy" and "acceptance": it will normalize the ongoing child sex trade that is currently occurring. Sorry, but the poor widdle child-lovers can sit in discomfort (as they should) for a while longer while we focus on the creeps who produce as well as consume child porn and who abuse and rape children to do so.
 
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