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[Nymphae]

You literally just posted:

Uhh, dude. You just said

I find your fixation with fucking children fucking weird. Like it seems like "people will have sex with children" is the first answer you come up in any scenario in which minorities try to gain acceptance.

I literally posted one thing in this thread, and you come at me with "I find your fixation...", and "it seems like you say this in every scenario..."

 

[Dizagaox]

With the LGBTQ community now embracing pedophiles as part of their group

You've undermined any point you had with this comment.

 

[Barsinister]

You could keep a loaded gun in the house out on the kitchen counter, but you're better off putting it in a safe.

 

[KevinKeene]

DunDunDunpachi :

I'm sweating like a swine and have stuff to do, just one thing: You keep saying it's about the children that are raped/abused.

I fundamentally disagree with conflating the topic of child abuse with the topic of non-offending pedophiles. If we're talking about crime-commiting pedophiles, then yes, it's about the children and their well-being.

But when we're talking about non-offending pedophiles, it's about their well-being. No children are involved, just prejudice and irrational hatred. Saying it's okay ostracize and harass and do worse to non-offending pedophiles because a hypothetical crime is as bad as saying false-rape accusations against innocent men are okay, because we have to encourage raped women to come both forward. Both is obviously bs. Innocent citizens should NEVER be harmed in any way. I'd hope we could agree on that.

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Those poor unfortunate souls

Look, I can't bother to reply to you when you write stuff like that sarcastically. Indeed, those unfortunate souls, who didn't choose to be the way they are. No sarcasm.

 

[J-Roderton]

Sucks to suck.

 

[SatansReverence]

The difference is one of these labels has a victim.

Not necessarily.

And how far are we from th true victim being the oppressed marginalised minority pedophile?

So that's what Gaf come about. Comparing two consenting adults to pedophilia.

But if you want to be coy, the right has been supporting pedophilia since the catholic church (Or most religion) inception. They vote and support an organization that literally shield pedophiles when they get caught.

A swing and a miss but you're pathetic attempt at deflection was noted.

 

[manfestival]

bruh I don't even know what I am reading right now. Came in here to say that I wasn't surprised then my mind was blown by the reaction.

 

[Jenenser]

snip

are you trying to make a point with a fake?
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hamas-wedding-girls/
atleast know your sources...

 

[Marshmallow]

Uhh, dude. You just said

I literally posted one thing in this thread, and you come at me with "I find your fixation...", and "it seems like you say this in every scenario..."

lol it's "you" in a general sense, not you specifically.

are you trying to make a point with a fake?

I literally grapped the first pic I found on google. Are you actually trying to argue child brides aren't a thing in many countries? That in africa there are some people with harems that include underage girls?

A swing and a miss but you're pathetic attempt at deflection was noted.

Uh-uh. By the way, why don't you give us your thoughts on black rights, women rights and allowing "race mixing". Do you also think they are part of the "slippery slope"? Should straight white guys be only group with full rights in the western world?

 

[SatansReverence]

Uh-uh. By the way, why don't you give us your thoughts on black rights, women rights and allowing "race mixing". Do you also think they are part of the "slippery slope"? Should straight white guys be only group with full rights in the western world?

Do you really expect me to engage with you when it is mind crushingly obvious you are trying to serve your fucking confirmation bias?

 

[i_am_ben]

A thread about a pedo arrested for child porn and then we have some defending pedophelia as an "orientation".

This thread will be a handy reference any time someone wants to do a drive-by claiming GAF is full-blown "alt-Right".

This makes no sense. Paedophilia doesn't really know any political divide.

But if I wanted to get in a cheap shot I could point out that only recently Roy Moore was pushed heavily by the alt-right to much fanfare.

 

[guggnichso]

Correction, your part of the community.

Are the pedosexual supporters a majority or even significant part of the broader community? Probably not.

It's almost like the slippery slope was actually real. This is the logical conclusion of "inclusiveness".

Dude, this is just stupid trolling, and you know that yourself. This whole thread is now about you trying to link the lgbt people to pedophilia, which is gross bullshit.

If you don’t like homosexuals or trans people, fine, you may be not a nice person but you do you.

Suggesting anything about lgbt people is in any way near something like pedophilia is just disgusting bullshit, and of course you know that yourself.

But hey, voat gets boring sometimes, doesn’t it?

 

[SatansReverence]

Dude, this is just stupid trolling, and you know that yourself. This whole thread is now about you trying to link the lgbt people to pedophilia, which is gross bullshit.

If you don’t like homosexuals or trans people, fine, you may be not a nice person but you do you.

Suggesting anything about lgbt people is in any way near something like pedophilia is just disgusting bullshit, and of course you know that yourself.

But hey, voat gets boring sometimes, doesn’t it?

I don't even know what voat is. Try again.

But hey, you know, it's just easier to screech transphobia then engage in actual conversation. But feel free to argue the point about paedophilia, at its core, being different to other non normal sexual orientations. But do so without your pathetic suggestive bullshit that I am some how a homophobe etc, that's a debate you'll lose, badly.

 

[guggnichso]

I don't even know what voat is. Try again.

But hey, you know, it's just easier to screech transphobia then engage in actual conversation. But feel free to argue the point about paedophilia, at its core, being different to other non normal sexual orientations. But do so without your pathetic suggestive bullshit that I am some how a homophobe etc, that's a debate you'll lose, badly.

Dude, I just looked at your post history, and I haven’t found a single fucking post were you did anything else than loud mouthed pathetic trolling. If you want to have a discussion, fine, get some receipts for your bullshit statement. If not, have fun screeching your bullshit as long as people react to it, I‘ll sure won’t until I see a coherent logical argument with sources from you, dude.

 

[SatansReverence]

Dude, I just looked at your post history, and I haven’t found a single fucking post were you did anything else than loud mouthed pathetic trolling. If you want to have a discussion, fine, get some receipts for your bullshit statement. If not, have fun screeching your bullshit as long as people react to it, I‘ll sure won’t until I see a coherent logical argument with sources from you, dude.

Normal heated rational debate will look like "loud mouthed trolling" to anyone used to living in a fucking echo chamber. If I'm so wrong and "just trolling" it shouldn't be difficult for you to reply in said threads and completely destroy my posts. But you know, that would require some facts over your feelings.

As for the highlighted.

Paedophilia is nothing more than the sexual attraction to underaged children.

At it's core, it is in fact, no different than homosexuality, a sexuality, zoosexuality etc etc etfuckingcetera.

But oh no, you better quickly fixate on the specific words "no different than homosexuality", apply some mental gymnastics and confirmation bias. Followed by removing any and all context that might have existed and finally come to the completely self inferred idea that I'm saying "homos just be pedos LOLOLOLOLOL!".

 

[Marshmallow]

Do you really expect me to engage with you when it is mind crushingly obvious you are trying to serve your fucking confirmation bias?

First, posting gifs don't make you look smart. It makes you look desperate and without arguments.


This is you on the first page:

Normal > Bi > Gay > Trans > "gender spectrum" > Pedosexual.

Where on this slippery slop are we currently up to?

Let's see how we can play with this moronic argument!

Men right > Women right > Black rights> Gay rights > "gender spectrum" > Pedosexual.

Maybe let's focus on race?

Normal rights > Women rights > Black rights> Interracial marriage right > White genocide

Would you say these slippery slopes make sense? They follow the same logic as your posts. Is giving rights to anyone who isn't a straight while male wrong?

 

[guggnichso]

Normal heated rational debate will look like "loud mouthed trolling" to anyone used to living in a fucking echo chamber. If I'm so wrong and "just trolling" it shouldn't be difficult for you to reply in said threads and completely destroy my posts. But you know, that would require some facts over your feelings.

As for the highlighted.

Paedophilia is nothing more than the sexual attraction to underaged children.

At it's core, it is in fact, no different than homosexuality, a sexuality, zoosexuality etc etc etfuckingcetera.

But oh no, you better quickly fixate on the specific words "no different than homosexuality", apply some mental gymnastics and confirmation bias. Followed by removing any and all context that might have existed and finally come to the completely self inferred idea that I'm saying "homos just be pedos LOLOLOLOLOL!".

That’s a fine example of rational debate.

 

[SatansReverence]

First, posting gifs don't make you look smart. It makes you look desperate and without arguments.

More like your post was so fucking stupid words alone couldn't express it.

Let's see how we can play with this moronic argument!

Men right > Women right > Black rights> Gay rights > "gender spectrum" > Pedosexual.

Maybe let's focus on race?

Normal rights > Women rights > Black rights> Interracial marriage right > White genocide

Would you say these slippery slopes make sense? They follow the same logic as your posts. Is giving rights to anyone who isn't a straight while male wrong?

Please do point to where ANYONE has said any of those rights were a slippery slope? Like you fucking WHAT?! Unless this is some sort of joke I'm actually floored by the false equivalency.

And for even greater comedic effect I'll point out I never even mentioned rights. Where did I even allude to rights!? Where did you train in your misrepresenting arguments arts? Fucking where?!

Holy shit I'm not even sure if I'm laughing or crying at this level of stupidity

That’s a fine example of rational debate.

Read; I can't argue so I'll just screech random buzzwords because that's all I know.

 

[Arkhan]

The aggressive responses in this thread seem quite unnecessary. It is easy to address and challenge a position without resorting to attacking or demeaning the member who holds that position. Dial back the hostility a bit please.

 

[SatansReverence]

The aggressive responses in this thread seem quite unnecessary. It is easy to address and challenge a position without resorting to attacking or demeaning the member who holds that position. Dial back the hostility a bit please.

If this is directed at me, calling someones post stupid isn't calling them stupid especially when followed with with substantiation.

If its for the others, let them come at me, I will gladly challenge their narrative. Someone has to.

 

[Marshmallow]

More like your post was so fucking stupid words alone couldn't express it.

As opposed to what? The world's oldest slippery slow. "If we let gay marry then people will marry their dog".

Please do point to where ANYONE has said any of those rights were a slippery slope? Like you fucking WHAT?! Unless this is some sort of joke I'm actually floored by the false equivalency.

Oh, I'm pretty common argument among people who use the "slippery slope argument". I'm sure you are familiar with it as well:

This is literally the argument you are making.

 

[Tapioca]

For all you "not all pedos" people... Would you willingly leave your child alone with these supposedly virtuous pedophiles? Of course not...

Pedos are predatory by nature. They want to have sex with people that cannot consent... Their sexual orientation = rape.

They don't have a place in society. And no amount of therapy is going to change your sexuality. They will forever want to fuck kids.

 

[SatansReverence]

This is literally the argument you are making.

I've never seen that "argument" before in my life.

But do go on, misrepresenting my posts so you can defeat the awful bigoted transphobic boogey man.

Stop conflating sexual orientation with rights already. Cheers - rational humans.

For all you "not all pedos" people...

I'm not defending paedophiles. Merely explaining the basic facts about them.

And what are we going to do? Just round up people and kill them? People don't choose to be paedophiles. They just are.

And since we apparently are going to get rid of them, why would they outwardly seek help? Now what? Find the genetics of them so we can detect them and murder people who, by and large, have done nothing wrong beyond exist? Or just use a bit of eugenics to eliminate them before birth? Well grate, whats stopping future society from using those same eugenics from eliminating the births of gays, lesbians, trans etc etc etc?

Society is getting to the point where no matter what the solution is, it's going to lead to disgusting immoralities in the long run.

*Yes, before you even screech it, this is a defence of NON OFFENDING paedophiles. Why? Because it's impossible to be able to defend them while also supporting gay/les/trans people.

 

[Tapioca]

*Yes, before you even screech it, this is a defence of NON OFFENDING paedophiles. Why? Because it's impossible to be able to defend them while also supporting gay/les/trans people.

That screeching shit is so corny and tired already.

But anyway, no it is not. Homosexuals and Trans are not predatory by nature. Trans isn't a sexuality and shouldn't even be in this topic of conversation anyway. But you can't compare gays to pedos. Gays do not have a predatory sexuality, pedophiles do. Straights do not have a predatory sexuality, pedophiles do. It's a retarded argument. Regardless if pedos offend or not, they get off to the thoughts of raping children. They have the sexuality of a rapist. You can compare pedophiles to gay rapists or straight rapists. But to compare them to straight non-rapist or gay-non rapist sexualities makes 0 sense and is just flat out dumb.

I don't know what to do with non-offending pedos, there's really nothing you can do for them. You can't change sexual orientation.

 

[guggnichso]

For all you "not all pedos" people... Would you willingly leave your child alone with these supposedly virtuous pedophiles? Of course not...

Pedos are predatory by nature. They want to have sex with people that cannot consent... Their sexual orientation = rape.

They don't have a place in society. And no amount of therapy is going to change your sexuality. They will forever want to fuck kids.

I agree with most of what you said. I still think we should offer pedophiles easy ways to get into supervised life long therapy to prevent them from becoming active. I think we should provide this chance to save kids that might fall prey to them when they can’t resist their urges anymore. Sadly, there’s very little work done on this.

Here’s an article from the zero years that puts some perspective into this. We should do all we can to support their self control if still existing and we should provide them the opportunity to give themselves up into stationary care without contact to the outer world if they desire. None of those options are now available for pedophiles who know what they are and are afraid to actually become predators. This should change and would safe a lot of kids from being scarred for their whole life and thus becoming predators themselves.

https://www.google.de/amp/www.spieg...y-desires-they-make-me-sick-a-441199-amp.html

And before someone accuses me of „defending“ pedophiles: I don’t. I think there is a chance of diffusing ticking time bombs in our society if we provide easy ways for those people to live on in controlled environments with constant supervision to reduce the number of victims in a very effective way. Even those non offending pedophiles can work home office or tech support jobs while being in a supervised environment, those contributing to GPD and taxes.

 

[SatansReverence]

That screeching shit is so corny and tired already.

But anyway, no it is not. Homosexuals and Trans are not predatory by nature. Trans isn't a sexuality and shouldn't even be in this topic of conversation anyway. But you can't compare gays to pedos. Gays do not have a predatory sexuality, pedophiles do. Straights do not have a predatory sexuality, pedophiles do. It's a retarded argument. Regardless if pedos offend or not, they get off to the thoughts of raping children. They have the sexuality of a rapist. You can compare pedophiles to gay rapists or straight rapists. But to compare them to straight non-rapist or gay-non rapist sexualities makes 0 sense and is just flat out dumb.

You need to disconnect "rapist" and "Paedophile" in your head.

 

[guggnichso]

I don't know what to do with non-offending pedos, there's really nothing you can do for them. You can't change sexual orientation.

You can definitely keep them in a constantly supervised environment with drugs to lower their sex drive. Currently, there’s no way for a self aware non offending pedophile to remove themselves from society except suicide. I think we should provide them a way out of society before they become active, just to save their potential victims.

Like I said before, society should do all that it can to be pro active here instead of being reactive, which is just waiting for a pedophile to act and produce actual victims.

 

[Boss Mog]

If pedophilia is ever accepted in Western society it'll be because of multiculturalism and mass migration. Multiculturalism has created this false idea that all cultures are equal and medieval-like ideologies must be respected and embraced by the West and that to think otherwise is "racist". By century's end these barbaric cultures will be dominant in Europe and as such, there's a good chance that many inhumane practices will then become the norm there. We don't even need to wait until then to witness this, it's already the case in England where young girls are being gang-raped by the thousands.

 

[Nicktendo86]

That's the issue and the reason I'm emphazising the BBC-article (there are many similar ones): people aren't aware of how how widespread pedophilia really is. They like to believe that there's a handful of monsters out there, eventually getting caught by the police, and that's it. That most child molesters are far away in south-east asia, because everything is nasty there, so their belief.

That there's actually a general percentage of 0.5 to 5 % of pedophiles everywhere around the globe is unkown to them - and they don't want to know. Because if they accept these huge numbers, they'd have to change their hateful stance against pedophiles - and it feels so good to demonize them. Pedophiles cannot defend themselves and shouting about protecting children always sounds good, duh :/

Most pedophiles don't rape children. That needs to be understood. Just like most men don't rape women - we don't lock up all men in favor of protecting women, do we?

I'm not sure I really understand the relevance in this thread, the person referred to in the OP downloaded thousands of indecent images and shared some too, I couldn't give a shit if there is a stigma attached to someone like that as there bloody well should be, downloading/sharing those images IS abuse.

 

[Marshmallow]

I've never seen that "argument" before in my life.

... Right. The argument you literally posted on page 1.

But do go on, misrepresenting my posts so you can defeat the awful bigoted transphobic boogey man.

I don't remember ever calling you transphobic? I would certantly call you homophobic, though.

Stop conflating sexual orientation with rights already. Cheers - rational humans.

What's argument here? Acceptance goes hand in hand with rights. In the first page you argue gay people gaing acceptance is part of the slippery slope toward pedophilia amd somehow this will lead to people being OK with raping children.

 

[SatansReverence]

... Right. The argument you literally posted on page 1.


I don't remember ever calling you transphobic? I would certantly call you homophobic, though.


What's argument here? Acceptance goes hand in hand with rights. In the first page you argue gay people gaing acceptance is part of the slippery slope toward pedophilia amd somehow this will lead to people being OK with raping children.

Still conflating rights with accepting sexual orientation

Let me know when you're finished with that, an interesting discussion might be had.

 

[Marshmallow]

Still conflating rights with accepting sexual orientation

Imagine thinking the two things aren't linked.

But well, it's no problem then? Even if pedos are accepted they wont' have rights, so what's the deal? =)

 

[Tapioca]

You need to disconnect "rapist" and "Paedophile" in your head.

No. Being a pedophile includes having literal child rape fantasies. Pedophiles have a sexual desire towards children. Children cannot consent. Fantasizing about having sex with them is a desire to rape. You need to connect the two or you are being disingenuous to what pedophilia consists of. It is not an innocent sexual orientation.

 

[SatansReverence]

Imagine thinking the two things aren't linked.

It's not hard for an egalitarian *shrug*

 

[SatansReverence]

No. Being a pedophile includes having literal child rape fantasies.

I'm just going to stop right there and not bother reading the rest of your post.

By making a claim like that you are saying every single person who has ever had a sexual fantasy is a rapist and a predator i.e every fucking human being that isn't an asexual.

 

[Tapioca]

You can definitely keep them in a constantly supervised environment with drugs to lower their sex drive. Currently, there’s no way for a self aware non offending pedophile to remove themselves from society except suicide. I think we should provide them a way out of society before they become active, just to save their potential victims.

Like I said before, society should do all that it can to be pro active here instead of being reactive, which is just waiting for a pedophile to act and produce actual victims.

Pedophiles can already be prescribed chemical castration meds if they go to a psychiatrist.

As for a publicly funded program that will house non-criminally charged pedophiles, that would be a hard sell in the US. I also doubt very many people would willingly imprison themselves and brand themselves with a scarlet letter.

 

[Tapioca]

I'm just going to stop right there and not bother reading the rest of your post.

By making a claim like that you are saying every single person who has ever had a sexual fantasy is a rapist and a predator i.e every fucking human being that isn't an asexual.

You are equating a pedophilic fantasy to a normal sexual fantasy, which is just disturbing.

I don't know how to make this anymore clear to you... having sex with a child = rape. Fantasizing about having sex with a child = fantasizing about rape.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

There is nothing normal about wanting to fuck kids. I'd say its the one thing worse than having sex with animals and those people belong in a cell. Neither does it equate to being gay, straight or ??? WTF gaf.

 

[Harksteed]

What always amazes me is the sheer amount of child porn these people always have. I mean, 60.000 pictures??

 

[SatansReverence]

You are equating a pedophilic fantasy to a normal sexual fantasy, which is just disturbing.

I don't know how to make this anymore clear to you... having sex with a child = rape. Fantasizing about having sex with a child = fantasizing about rape.

I understand exactly where you are coming from.

But a rapist has the desire to overpower a victim and force themselves on them.

A child can wilfully participate.

Now, do predatory paedophiles use this against their victims? Of course they do, they are predatory and can use force or mind games to achieve their goal and not a single one deserves defence in this situation. But to act as though every one of them is predatory is silly.

There is nothing normal about wanting to fuck kids.

Of course not but by the exact same logic neither is being gay because such a small subset of the population has these urges.

 

[mneuro]

I'm just going to stop right there and not bother reading the rest of your post.

By making a claim like that you are saying every single person who has ever had a sexual fantasy is a rapist and a predator i.e every fucking human being that isn't an asexual.

This post is ridiculous. I fantasize about my wife often. We are both consenting adults and would be consenting in my fantasies. Pedophiles can only fantasize about raping children, because children can never consent. It is disgusting that you are defending pedophilia.

 

[MDSLKTR]

Nuke this fucking thread smh

 

[mneuro]

A child can wilfully participate.

What.the.fuck.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

I understand exactly where you are coming from.

But a rapist has the desire to overpower a victim and force themselves on them.

A child can wilfully participate.

Now, do predatory paedophiles use this against their victims? Of course they do, they are predatory and can use force or mind games to achieve their goal and not a single one deserves defence in this situation. But to act as though every one of them is predatory is silly.



Of course not but by the exact same logic neither is being gay because such a small subset of the population has these urges.

I think what is he is thinking is this. If you are attracted to something you have urges to have sex with it. Kids can't consent. Its literally rape.


Also holy fuck son.

 

[KevinKeene]

I'm just going to stop right there and not bother reading the rest of your post.

By making a claim like that you are saying every single person who has ever had a sexual fantasy is a rapist and a predator i.e every fucking human being that isn't an asexual.

Thx. That posting of his is SO stupid. He's literally demanding punishment for thought crimes. Wtf

 

[KevinKeene]

Nuke this fucking thread smh

Yes, let's torpedo every level-headed debate about pedophiles, because if we're not careful, it could lead to pedophiles having a better life, less children raped and men being able to work as kindergarteners/elementary school teachers.

/s

 

[Tapioca]

I understand exactly where you are coming from.

But a rapist has the desire to overpower a victim and force themselves on them.

A child can wilfully participate.

Now, do predatory paedophiles use this against their victims? Of course they do, they are predatory and can use force or mind games to achieve their goal and not a single one deserves defence in this situation. But to act as though every one of them is predatory is silly.

Of course not but by the exact same logic neither is being gay because such a small subset of the population has these urges.

It is clear you are a pedophile at this point. A child cannot willingly participate. A child cannot consent to sex. A child does not want to have sex with you. A child cannot fall in love with you. A child has no desire for you sexually and never will. Having sex with a child is rape. Fantasizing about having sex with children is fantasizing about rape. You have a predatory sexual orientation. You should never be around children. You will never convince us non-sexual predators that you are an innocent being. It sucks that you were born with this abnormality but you are a predator.

 

[SatansReverence]

What.the.fuck.

I think what is he is thinking is this. If you are attracted to something you have urges to have sex with it. Kids can't consent. Its literally rape.


Also holy fuck son.

....

did italicising CAN not make the use of the word clear enough to either of you?

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Yes, let's torpedo every level-headed debate about pedophiles, because if we're not careful, it could lead to pedophiles having a better life, less children raped and men being able to work as kindergarteners/elementary school teachers.

/s

Self appointed pedophile rights activist KevinKeene on the scene! /s

 

[SatansReverence]

Today I learned that apparently children have absolutely zero free will.

Or actually people still cannot debate without completely misrepresenting an argument.

And I thought we learned from Amir0x that it's the people who fight against something the worst are the most likely to have the skeletons in the closet *shrug*