Did this happen all that often? I can
only remember it happening to Eren and in that case it makes sense since he was probably close to transforming.
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Anime cliches that need to die.
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Messofanego
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I checked in the anime voting thread for 2014 and saw Jexhius' post mention Mushi-Shi season 2, so going to watch that. I love anything that is slow paced. Slow cinema is my jam, after all.
LollipoPReapeR
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Jesus that titan gif...
One of my most hated tropes is when 80% of dialogue in an episode or from a character is just the name of something/someone.
Inoue from Bleach is like one of the worst at this. Damn she annoys me so much.
And what's with the awkward greetings? They run at each other from far away, expressing some kind of strong emotion to just get in range and just stand there awkwardly... Just hug damn it!
These are just some many, most already listed in this thread.
One of my most hated tropes is when 80% of dialogue in an episode or from a character is just the name of something/someone.
Inoue from Bleach is like one of the worst at this. Damn she annoys me so much.
And what's with the awkward greetings? They run at each other from far away, expressing some kind of strong emotion to just get in range and just stand there awkwardly... Just hug damn it!
These are just some many, most already listed in this thread.
Fbh
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So many:
- Moe
- Lolis, including the "She looks and acts as a 7 years old but she is actually an ancient magical being so it's ok to sexualize her"
-Highschool setting
-Girls with unrealistically giant breasts/asses
- Fan Service in general
- "90% of the female cast falls in love with the main character" a.k.a harem
- Deus ex Friendship: Including magical power ups "because friendship" and anthagonists being defeated because "they don't know friendship"
- Secondary characters that only exists to be defeated by the bad guy to show how strong he is
- Main characters that whine an moan for the first half of the show (also includes angsty main characters)
- Having to narrate everything that's happening in a battle
- Long internal monologues and/or flashbacks during action scenes
- Shocked reaction by a character that is being defeated but then it turns out it was all an act and he hasn't showed his true power and starts to win but then it turns out the other guy was also acting because he had yet to show his true power which shocks the other guy but only for a chapter because he actually had a secret special attack and then the chapter ends with him cutting the other guy in half but it tuns out that was also a trick and the other guy was holding back and hasn't even been hurt, etc, etc, etc
- Main characters that basically have one attack they use over and over and over again (see Naruto or bleach)
- The notion that "convulted" = "deep"
- "Everyone is basically incompetent except for the main character"
Those are the first that come to mind
- Moe
- Lolis, including the "She looks and acts as a 7 years old but she is actually an ancient magical being so it's ok to sexualize her"
-Highschool setting
-Girls with unrealistically giant breasts/asses
- Fan Service in general
- "90% of the female cast falls in love with the main character" a.k.a harem
- Deus ex Friendship: Including magical power ups "because friendship" and anthagonists being defeated because "they don't know friendship"
- Secondary characters that only exists to be defeated by the bad guy to show how strong he is
- Main characters that whine an moan for the first half of the show (also includes angsty main characters)
- Having to narrate everything that's happening in a battle
- Long internal monologues and/or flashbacks during action scenes
- Shocked reaction by a character that is being defeated but then it turns out it was all an act and he hasn't showed his true power and starts to win but then it turns out the other guy was also acting because he had yet to show his true power which shocks the other guy but only for a chapter because he actually had a secret special attack and then the chapter ends with him cutting the other guy in half but it tuns out that was also a trick and the other guy was holding back and hasn't even been hurt, etc, etc, etc
- Main characters that basically have one attack they use over and over and over again (see Naruto or bleach)
- The notion that "convulted" = "deep"
- "Everyone is basically incompetent except for the main character"
Those are the first that come to mind
totally real.
Fall/grope - check
Awkward stare at each other - check
Reaching hand helping you up - check
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I think this is a really good post. It depends on how things are handled since pretty much every type of medium now has cliches to them. I don't know if any of them have to die but rather be handled competently. Do these cliches really run rampant through different genres and demographics because a lot of what is in this thread would really seem like its heavily in shounen series.
If you are seeing a lot of the cliches, change some of the stuff that you what you watch.
Mr. Smiley
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It's funny cause the same guy made another supercut detailing unique ones because he was bombarded with comments saying anime is unoriginal.
Fun to watch either way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILN1rV2CGPA
StalkerUKCG
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This shit is the reason I'm not watching Naruto.
What a weirdo.
This isn't an anime-specific thing. Such characters tend to work best as foils for other members of the cast.
"The real monsters are the humans".
I'm getting really tired of this teenager-level misantropy and they seem to be a plague in most mech animes where they fight aliens.
It felt fresh when I was getting into anime and I only knew american action movies where the hero was never wrong but after years of that I just really want something where the aliens/monsters get wrecked by the might of the Human Master Race.
I'm getting really tired of this teenager-level misantropy and they seem to be a plague in most mech animes where they fight aliens.
It felt fresh when I was getting into anime and I only knew american action movies where the hero was never wrong but after years of that I just really want something where the aliens/monsters get wrecked by the might of the Human Master Race.
Barrow Roll
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"It can't be helped" or any variation of that line.
It's shonen and there is a lot of fighting in it. Particularly in Brotherhood which is closer to the manga, as opposed to that god awful 2003 version.
Messofanego
Banned
Derek Lieu's flip of that supercut with the Unique Anime Openings is also worth watching as a complement, some of the best anime in there.
Emperor_Uriel
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Male characters being punching bags and receiving the brunt of the slapstick abuse while female characters are treated like delicate flowers whose beauty cannot be tarnished.
Such a godawful double standard that doesn't belong in the modern, progressive era.
Such a godawful double standard that doesn't belong in the modern, progressive era.
Barrow Roll
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Unless your only metric for it being god awful is faithfulness to the source material, then that's just crazy talk.
Saucycarpdog
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female characters only existing to be protected by male lead
harms with loser lead. Seriously, I'd your going to have a bunch of women fawn over one guy he should at least have some redeemable traits
over dramatic dialogue that just ends up making serious moments pan out like this:
-Female token: "b-b-but you can't sempai!"
-Male pansy: *head held down, clenching fist* "NO, I HAVE TO!!!"
-Female token: "uh..."
-Male pansy: "FOR MY NAKAMA!!!"
-Female token: *thinking to herself* "Wow, sempai-Chan is so brave and strong."
Truly breathtaking dialogue right there.
harms with loser lead. Seriously, I'd your going to have a bunch of women fawn over one guy he should at least have some redeemable traits
over dramatic dialogue that just ends up making serious moments pan out like this:
-Female token: "b-b-but you can't sempai!"
-Male pansy: *head held down, clenching fist* "NO, I HAVE TO!!!"
-Female token: "uh..."
-Male pansy: "FOR MY NAKAMA!!!"
-Female token: *thinking to herself* "Wow, sempai-Chan is so brave and strong."
Truly breathtaking dialogue right there.
Dice//
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Theonik
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All I can hear is 'ohohohohoho'
1) Spineless/indecisive main characters, ESPECIALLY in harems.
2) School settings. Theirs way too much anime that revolves around schools lol
3) Also, if fan-service is required then it should be done in a classy/clever way like Studio SHAFT does it in the Monogatari series. Their fan-service never feels obnoxious or out of place.
2) School settings. Theirs way too much anime that revolves around schools lol
3) Also, if fan-service is required then it should be done in a classy/clever way like Studio SHAFT does it in the Monogatari series. Their fan-service never feels obnoxious or out of place.
Jex
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The most important thing that comes from adapting LN's is that, once again, your specifically adapting stories designed for teenagers to enjoy so there are a certain set of characters/situations that you can expect to encounter.
What I was specifically talking about earlier were tropes created as a direct result of the process of adaptation e.g. the need to fill out time by having characters blather about nothing. There aren't that many distinct tropes that occur of a result of said adaptation, most tropes are present in the original source material (e.g. manga, LN's etc).
Messofanego
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goddamnit
airmangataosenai
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- Being a "Nice guy" is enough for girls to like/love you.
- Rampant homophobia, the "Gay character" is always a sexual deviant set on trying to turn the heterosexual main lead for no reason.
- Rampant homophobia, the "Gay character" is always a sexual deviant set on trying to turn the heterosexual main lead for no reason.
Alex_Mexico
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After reading most of this 9 page thread I realize now why I loved Legend of Korra so much.
It has all the amazing aesthetics, designs and animation I love so much from Japan (LoK was mostly animated in Korea but it's an anime, deal with it) but without all the tired tropes I've come to hate so much about modern anime.
It has all the amazing aesthetics, designs and animation I love so much from Japan (LoK was mostly animated in Korea but it's an anime, deal with it) but without all the tired tropes I've come to hate so much about modern anime.
Chmpocalypse
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Overwrought melodrama. Stories where there is no conflict and nothing interesting ever happens. HYSTERICAL SOBBING/HISTRIONICS.
I quite liked Speedwagons enthusiastic exposition during the battles in the first JoJo arc
Tizoc
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This shit is the reason I'm not watching Naruto.
wut, those reaction faces are among my fav. in anime lol.
Ack guilty as charged, but in Speedwagon's case, he does it with such gusto and enthusiasm you can't help but like it.
...uh-huh. Ok pal.
Hey didn't you know anime must always be lumped together.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Whoops I meant I hate tsundere wins crap. I really want to see more non-tsundere girls actually "winning" a relationship, or tsundere-ness of a character backfiring.
I think it's hopeless for most tsundere characters who are developed as 98% tsun and 2% dere with 3% margin of error. And then you factor in external variables like the likelihood of amnesia, appearance of the childhood friend that the protag made marriage promises to when they were toddlers, imoutos, passing trains and low-flying airplanes, the general inability of the protag to hear anything important relating to improving relationships, the concept of love being like cooties, the odds are just stacked against them.
lol this shit is freaking hilarious.
I actually find it more stupid and funny than annoying.
I personally detest harem and ecchi shows. All of them. They take the worst anime cliches and make them even worse, if that's even possible.
Also these following:
*MC that always sits next to a window in class
*Women can either cook really really good, or cook so bad that it makes people pass out.
*The bigger the boobs, the smaller the brain.
*Complete lack of self awareness by the MC, usually male, that makes you want to punch him in the stomach. Also lack of awareness to his surroundings. It took you 20 episodes to figure out she likes you? Are you a fucking idiot?
I know it isn't anime, but I remember watching Hey Arnold! as a kid, and looking back Helga was one hell of a tsundere. The subversion from the Japanese tsunderes is that she only showed her dere side when she was absolutely alone (AFAIK, she was always in full tsun-mode in front of Arnold, and never got better).
It's a bit of a strange though that Japan, with all the social stigma it has in regards to bullying, somehow endorses it in anime as long as the one who's bullying a character actually has hidden feeling for them.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I kinda like the classic tsundere more than the modern, mainstream tsundere. Classic tsundere was "nice and good-meaning, but has a scary side you don't want to push and is a bit tenacious".
Crash Station
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Bad adaptations of manga/LNs/games.
Ah, Umineko... I recently felt like re-watching a bit of the anime adaptation after having read the visual novels, and it was ridiculous how the anime team unknowingly screwed up on lots of clues that could be used to give a valid counter-argument to the magical impossible murders and whatnot, making most of them downright unsolvable.
A somewhat spoiler-y difference would be that, while in the first chapter of the anime Kanon was found dead with a stake driven through his chest, the source material had him found dead in a pool of blood, but with the stake lying on the floor next to him. This, of course, implies that
the whole setup might be part of a ruse to make everyone think Kanon was dead
NeonZ
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Huh, no. "Classic Tsundere" is usually considered the types that start disliking or being cold to their future romantic interest before then falling for them and leaving that trait behind, as opposed to the modern characters who constantly change between both extremes fairly often. It was more like a description of a character arc than a personality type.
That type of tsundere still pops up in modern anime, but generally as minor secondary characters who fall in love after a single arc or two but then get stuck there and the lead doesn't acknowledge them since they can't "win".
Crash Station
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Another thing: tsunderes without consequences.
If you're going to be a crazy aggressive semi-bipolar bitch, I want you to have a shitty childhood, few if any friends, and actually get charged with assault when you send a guy that ACCIDENTALLY walks in on you flying. None of this "she's the most popular girl in school just because" nonsense.
If you're going to be a crazy aggressive semi-bipolar bitch, I want you to have a shitty childhood, few if any friends, and actually get charged with assault when you send a guy that ACCIDENTALLY walks in on you flying. None of this "she's the most popular girl in school just because" nonsense.
Messofanego
Banned
But doesn't everyone here say that anime can't be compared to reality, you can't judge it based on that kind of logic?
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
KazenY2J
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Something with an anime-style doesn't make it the same, being ignorant of this is ridiculous.
It also has as many cliches as some mentioned on here.
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