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[Dali]

Kennichu is one of the better bad examples because the series is self-aware that Myu is actually much stronger than him since she got more talent and a longer history of training, which is actually an important thing for the managa. Jarring fanservice aside, the manga makes a good job having girls not actually be weaker because they are girls. Not even that one Yami master since that one was out of choice.

It's worse when women get degraded into healing or utility positions or to the point where they lack behind so much behind the male characters that they really constantly need help. And then there's of ciurse the category that fights only against other women and get their clothes shred or wet during the fight.

But there are a lot of positive examples of strong, fighting women in anime and those really appeal to me, like Black Lagoon or Gintama.

Fucking laserguided amnesia all the time in all kind of anime. stahp!

Kenichi knows Furinjin is super strong (she beats his ass in training everyday) yet still has the "I must protect her" attitude. I don't see any new nuance or anything different about this lame trope in the series. It's actually worse because you can't ignore the fact he's jumping in front of her because she's a girl. Early in the series, before he knew, he at least had an excuse. But to hold onto that way of thinking even after learning what a demon she is...

I guess if you look at it as his training goal then it somewhat makes sense but it's still pathetic. "I shall train until I've reached demon status so that I can protect this girl who is already fully capable of protecting herself against pretty much anything."

Edit:

The characters aren't forgetting anything. The end of the first season of ai yori has the couple pretty much getting married. Queue the second season and we're back at square one of a harem.

Sword art online second season at times makes it seem as though the couple that spent months together are just pals. Sao isn't as bad as ai yori as at times it seems like they are still a couple and also I can see how moving a virtual relationship to the real world would result in sort of a reset.

 

[MrCunningham]

I think that's a Naruto thing in the first place.

Yeah, but this trope has appeared in other anime and games outside of Naruto. The 2014 Nick Turtles series does this as well.

 

[Mokujin]

Moe infecting 95% of anime.

 

[Mabufu]

I think that's a Naruto thing in the first place.

Sonic is the one to blame lol.

Spoiler

No, really. Moving your arms makes you less aerodynamic, so if you want to run at the speed of sound, something's gotta give

 

[Fuu]

Is this still a thing? Cause running with arms behind back always annoyed me.

I think that's a Naruto thing in the first place.

Saint Seiya was doing it years before Naruto.

 

[Shredderi]

Infodump trope. I fucking loathe it. Also the thing that is many times used to introduce characters ASAP: a character is alone -> another character walks into the scene -> the first character says something like "ah, it's you, Shredderi the angel of drive by posts of neogaf".

Instead of just greeting each other normally they gotta do that so the audience instantly knows who is who instead of organically introducing characters. Grinds my gears so much.

 

[Red Liquorice]

When they drag out the ending to a story.

Say there's 24 episodes to a series, the story actually ends episode 21, but the last 3 episodes are dragged out often where a character inexplicable gets ill and has to be laid up in a hospital bed so that all the others can cry and feel, then they get better as quickly as they got ill.

 

[Bold One]

Delinquent-Walk

you know, where they walk like idiots with both knees pointing sideways like they have a beach ball between their thighs

 

[Klyka]

"She is the school's idol!"

Really?

 

[SubiyaCryolite]

Villains who gloat, act arrogant and don't kill the protagonists when they have an opening. Like, the dude is right there, cut his freaking head off instead of rambling about some random nonsense.

 

[Chariot]

When the final fight against a boss ends with a clash with both characters using their "strongest attack" and the villian is defeated. Also I would love to have animes where villains "win" and everything doesn't end on a good note for the good guys.

Spoilers, of course.

Spoiler

Shaman King manga does this, heroes became stronger and raise from a powerlevel of acouple of hundred points to 50 to 100 thousand - bad for them that them the big bad had like a million in the first place and got a lot stronger. athey tried to defeat him with their best shot, but didn't make it. They then played the emotion card and got the ghosts of everyone he every cared abot, inclduing his dead mother into play. He agreed to give them time to fix the world, he became god and let the people do what they want while he is watching always ready to just nuke the world if he wants to.

Kenichi knows Furinjin is super strong (she beats his ass in training everyday) yet still has the "I must protect her" attitude. I don't see any new nuance or anything different about this lame trope in the series. It's actually worse because you can't ignore the fact he's jumping in front of her because she's a girl. Early in the series, before he knew, he at least had an excuse. But to hold onto that way of thinking even after learning what a demon she is...

I guess if you look at it as his training goal then it somewhat makes sense but it's still pathetic. "I shall train until I've reached demon status so that I can protect this girl who is already fully capable of protecting herself against pretty much anything."

True enough. Should've switched along the way to be stronger just because he wants to.

Infodump trope. I fucking loathe it. Also the thing that is many times used to introduce characters ASAP: a character is alone -> another character walks into the scene -> the first character says something like "ah, it's you, Shredderi the angel of drive by posts of neogaf".

Instead of just greeting each other normally they gotta do that so the audience instantly knows who is who instead of organically introducing characters. Grinds my gears so much.

That one always gets a chuckle out of me. Add to that remarks about their relaionship to something or someone and what they are doing on a daily basis. You know, in case the characters forgot.

Villains who gloat, act arrogant and don't kill the protagonists when they have an opening. Like, the dude is right there, cut his freaking head off instead of rambling about some random nonsense.

That's not an anime thing. That crap happens everywhere.

 

[pgtl_10]

The insanely shy boy trope. The boy never just bangs a girl no matter how submissive she is.

 

[Mussah92]

blonde blue eyed protags speaking fluent japanese practically everyone else is black haired and black eyed (japanese), it happens quite alot with different shows, the obssession with blonde and blue eyed....lol (naruto, supersaiyan tranformation)

 

[Chariot]

"She is the school's idol!"

Really?

I mean, american highschool shows have their Queen bees or what these people are called.

blonde blue eyed protags speaking fluent japanese practically everyone else is black haired and black eyed (japanese), it happens quite alot with different shows, the obssession with blonde and blue eyed....lol (naruto, supersaiyan tranformation)

First of all: hair colours are a loy of times symbolic, certain character archetypes are known for certain hair colours. There are actually few anime where he hair really matters, such as Sword of the Stranger. Naruto has people with pink, red, blur and green hair too. Also Goku as well as Naruto grew up in the enviroment where they grew up. Language isn't genetic for fucks sake.

And fyi most anime protagonist have actually black or brown hair.

 

[Nightbird]

Spoilers, of course.

Spoiler

Shaman King manga does this, heroes became stronger and raise from a powerlevel of acouple of hundred points to 50 to 100 thousand - bad for them that them the big bad had like a million in the first place and got a lot stronger. athey tried to defeat him with their best shot, but didn't make it. They then played the emotion card and got the ghosts of everyone he every cared abot, inclduing his dead mother into play. He agreed to give them time to fix the world, he became god and let the people do what they want while he is watching always ready to just nuke the world if he wants to.

One of the reasons i fucking loved Shaman King.

I need to continue the sequel, it was decent as far as i went.

 

[Shredderi]

That one always gets a chuckle out of me. Add to that remarks about their relaionship to something or someone and what they are doing on a daily basis. You know, in case the characters forgot.

Fucking A. Grrhh.

 

[Scrooge McDuck]

blonde blue eyed protags speaking fluent japanese practically everyone else is black haired and black eyed (japanese), it happens quite alot with different shows, the obssession with blonde and blue eyed....lol (naruto, supersaiyan tranformation)

Is this actually a thing in anime? From what I watched, they simply use a spectrum of many colors for hair and eyes, not just "blonde protagonist and everyone else black-haired". I mean Naruto has characters with pink hair and Dragon Ball has characters with purple hair.

As for my contribution, I really dislike the "lecherous old man" character.

 

[Chariot]

Is this actually a thing in anime? Usually anime just have a spectrum of many colors from red to green for hair and eyes, not just blonde and black.

It isn't. Most protagonists I witnessed are ordinary black haired, sometimes brown. Usually, if the protagonist has a weird hair colour, most people in that series do. If I think of blonde protagonists I think of the Elric brothers who are from and in a kinda Germany and Meliodas, who is from and in a kinda Middle England (then again Seven Deadly sins is a series where iy doesn't matter either given the colourful hair im general).

 

[Mussah92]

I mean, american highschool shows have their Queen bees or what these people are called.

First of all: hair colours are a loy of times symbolic, certain character archetypes are known for certain hair colours. There are actually few anime where he hair really matters, such as Sword of the Stranger. Naruto has people with pink, red, blur and green hair too. Also Goku as well as Naruto grew up in the enviroment where they grew up. Language isn't genetic for fucks sake.

And fyi most anime protagonist have actually black or brown hair.

this gave me a new perspective, hmmmm, maybe i overthought it abit. my bad.

 

[Last Prime]

Female looking character that is actually a dude.

 

[Chariot]

Female looking character that is actually a dude.

Depends on what they do with it. Some anime handle people who deliberately dress thst way rather well, wether they are transgender or just like to dress that way. And if it's not intended by the character, I still like it most of the time. People should have to look according to their genitals and why shouldn't men look feminine or womrn look masculine?

 

[Theonik]

Saint Seiya was doing it years before Naruto.

It's a Ninja thing. You see this in several places, it's not original to any one show I don't think and is pretty common. As are associated 'sasasasasa' sound effects.

 

[ShaoranWright]

Perverted camera angles and the underage shit needs to die in a fire. Everything from SAO.

I'm sick and tired of those shots when a girl is talking and the shot begins with a close-up of the boobs and the camera goes up to her face or when a dude and a girl are talking and the camera is placed right next to the boobs leaving them in the foreground and the face of the dude in the background (that happens A LOT in God Eater).

 

[Bold One]

Female looking character that is actually a dude.

Dat Sonic dude in One Punch Man....

keep doing a double take

 

[Catalix]

Ugly rubber looking clown lips on black characters.

It's always a treat when they don't resort to that tired bullshit.

 

[Tizoc]

As for my contribution, I really dislike the "lecherous old man" character.

I wonder if that started with Master Roshi in Dragonball but even in that series it feels out of place for him.
Goku tried to pull that on the Elder Kai years later in the Buu Saga, and I found Elder Kai's reaction better.

 

[LiK]

anything moe. it's fucking trash.

 

[Chariot]

I wonder if that started with Master Roshi in Dragonball but even in that series it feels out of place for him.
Goku tried to pull that on the Elder Kai years later in the Buu Saga, and I found Elder Kai's reaction better.

I remember Ranma doinh this too. I think it's a combination of men will be men and old people don't have to give a shit anymore.

anything moe. it's fucking trash.

Shirobako.

 

[Tacorona72]

*girl finished taking shower, naked in the bathroom*

*average looking clueless high school male walks in ready to take a shower*

"KYAAAAAAAAAAAAA"

*slap*

It's both not funny and really annoying because it happens all the time. I literally have zero clue as to why these scenes still exist, they have little to no meaning whatsoever.

 

[Fbh]

Lolies... specially when they are sexualized or they make them perverted.

Moe crap.

Harem (aka 90% of the female caharacters are in love with the main character).

Random powerups... specially when they are basically explanied as the power of friendship or some crap like that (only TTGL pulls it off well because you expect it to be ridiculous).

 

[Ushay]

- Pointless sexualizing, its FAR too prevalent in anime. I'm talking about ridiculous female garb (God Eater) or panty shots. I mean .. wtf?
- Skinny as fuck protagonists that have inhuman strength or lifting hulking weapons. At least give him/her some muscle to match the strength..
- Posturing during fights .. why give your entire strategy away. I mean, holy shit.

 

[Dali]

I wonder if that started with Master Roshi in Dragonball but even in that series it feels out of place for him.
Goku tried to pull that on the Elder Kai years later in the Buu Saga, and I found Elder Kai's reaction better.

Perverted old men are universal. I'll never forget going to the fair in highschool as a Junior with a sophomore. The old dude at the guess your weight attraction had her do a pirouette while saying something with a Cajun accent like like "that's a spicy meatball."

 

[ahoyhoy]

Female looking character that is actually a dude.

I know many who would be disappointed to see their traps taken away.

 

[LiK]

Perverted old men are universal. I'll never forget going to the fair in highschool as a Junior with a sophomore. The old dude at the guess your weight attraction had her do a pirouette while saying something with a Cajun accent like like "that's a spicy meatball."

yea, the lecherous old man thing has been in all forms of media forever. hell, it's essentially based on real life.

 

[LordOfChaos]

Whatever Kirito is. All of it. And every supporting female around him.

 

[Sinfamy]

Characters that can't get dates.
Characters with deep internal struggles about pasts events that they must overcome.

UNEXPLAINED PLOT POINTS

 

[FStubbs]

Another thing: tsunderes without consequences.

If you're going to be a crazy aggressive semi-bipolar bitch, I want you to have a shitty childhood, few if any friends, and actually get charged with assault when you send a guy that ACCIDENTALLY walks in on you flying. None of this "she's the most popular girl in school just because" nonsense.

Usually tsunderes are cute so they get away with it. Though in Sket Dance, the tsundere had no friends because no one wanted to put up with her. But she did have a fan club of sick otaku.

 

[zma1013]

That thing with the ice in a glass shifting as it melts. How many times must I see this?

 

[LiK]

Flashbacks. I think Naruto was pretty disgusting with it just to fill in time because the studio was behind. They literally had flashbacks every few eps which was hilarious.

 

[Sinfamy]

Flashbacks. I think Naruto was pretty disgusting with it just to fill in time because the studio was behind. They literally had flashbacks every few eps which was hilarious.

You can just hear the song.

 

[Chariot]

Whatever Kirito is. All of it. And every supporting female around him.

Marty Stu? Wanking self-insert? Douche?

Characters with deep internal struggles about pasts events that they must overcome.

How is that a bad thing in general. It's bad if it's dragged too long, but seems like something good to build character and story.

Another thing: tsunderes without consequences.

If you're going to be a crazy aggressive semi-bipolar bitch, I want you to have a shitty childhood, few if any friends, and actually get charged with assault when you send a guy that ACCIDENTALLY walks in on you flying. None of this "she's the most popular girl in school just because" nonsense.

You should watch Toradora.

Also Bungako Shoujo OVA 2 just to see an over the tope tsundere getting flustered and robbing the guy instead of talking to him normally.

 

[Sinfamy]

Marty Stu? Wanking self-insert? Douche?

How is that a bad thing in general. It's bad if it's dragged too long, but seems like something good to build character and story.

It's often a dumb attempt at making the character unique and flawed to give more personality but its always tedious to the viewer, the whole gun thing in Season 2 of Sword Art Online was so eye roll worthy.

 

[Chariot]

It's often a dumb attempt at making the character unique and flawed to give more personality but its always tedious to the viewer, the whole gun thing in Season 2 of Sword Art Online was so eye roll worthy.

That was stupid because it was stupid, not because trauma is stupid. And I am stuoid, because I didn't watch SAO 2 because it's probabls as stupid as the stupid first season with the stupid character and the messy plot, but since it's SAO I just know it's stupid.

 

[Syder]

A character suffers a 'mortal blow' and whites out to a heaven-like realm where they're given some sage advice by their old and probably dead former sensei only for them to regain consciousness, be at full health, ultra-mode and kick the bad guy's ass with little to no effort at all.

Basically, anything that breaks suspension of disbelief in more realistic anime needs to go.

 

[pbayne]

main character designs, not all of them but a lot of them.

No more 14 year old, black haired, skinny dudes whose only personality is they're kind of nice.

Give me more Guts or Gene Starwind. I don't even care if its just cool for the sake of looking cool, just try to make something unique.

 

[Demise]

Where to begin :

- never ending story just to sell more merchendise : bleach in particular. Show was good until the end of ss.

- people suffering bad injuries without barely even noticing it. Like losing an arm or a leg with a straight face. Stupid, except your a cyborg.

- people talking while fighting. Dull and Anti-climatic. Most of us can't even talk while fighting a video game boss.

- Except for zorro in one piece who's the goat : people who shout their attack names. Looks stupid. I like how cowboy bebop and samurai champloo have no such thing.

- main character or manly rude character that eat a lot. Overused.

- young and boring main character in interesting stories : 08th ms team.

- characters that look at death like it's nothing and are ready to throw their life away while there's 10 better solutions left.

- "don't tell me this guy is **** ********, the legend. The guy who entered The secret organisation at the age of five, who's over powered and who destroyed entire cities with his little finger while being so laid back cool and who's looking at us with a bad ass pose while i'm making this speech. We have no chance against him." Cringe.

 

[Nocturnowl]

Casual sexist remarks regarding women and cooking:

"Wow your cooking is so good, you'll make a great wife someday!"

I'm more surprised such a sentence could occur considering the prevalence of the trope where the female character has terrible cooking skills that she's always delighted to show off.

 

[Chariot]

I'm more surprised such a sentence could occur considering the prevalence of the trope where the female character has terrible cooking skills that she's always delighted to show off.

I mean, they obviously don't say that to a lethal cook, but it highlights a certain issue that is very often there and not limited to cooking. Household chores, caring for random children, etc. are often commented with that remark. I am not sure that this is a special anime thing and not rooted in actual japanese society. But I don't know that much about it, so I don't want to hurl myself out of the window.

 

[Hypron]

All westerners have blond hair and blue eyes. I know they probably often do that to differentiate them visually but it always bug me.

 

[Subpar Spatula]

Voyeuristic shots of women. Ruins anime in general for me. Hard for me to want to support an industry so deep in it. It's rare to come across a series that doesn't nowadays.