A good enough mystery shouldn't require hearing the whole setting for the crime directly from the perpetrator/s, but I guess mystery shows such as Conan that have lots of 1-3 episode mysteries rather than longer ones don't have enough air time to spare and elaborate each crime's background, so it's easier for them to just have the perps break down and explain their motives once the detective has them cornered with some piece of decisive evidence or testimony. It's awfully cheap and boring, though.
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Anime cliches that need to die.
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A good enough mystery shouldn't require hearing the whole setting for the crime directly from the perpetrator/s, but I guess mystery shows such as Conan that have lots of 1-3 episode mysteries rather than longer ones don't have enough air time to spare and elaborate each crime's background, so it's easier for them to just have the perps break down and explain their motives once the detective has them cornered with some piece of decisive evidence or testimony. It's awfully cheap and boring, though.
Sometimes villains becoming good guys ain't always a bad thing. It can lead to some really interesting character dynamics between the former foes.
Sure, it's a bit formulaic, but it doesn't have to be a negative thing by necessity.
Black-Wind
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A female hugging the MC's head into her tits without them being in a sexual relationship.
That's not how hugs work. You're forcing him to motorboat you.
That's not how hugs work. You're forcing him to motorboat you.
So, for those here who are still balls-deep in it, do I really need anything outside of Netflix, Hulu, and Crunchyroll to stay current on good anime?
I used to use all kinds of other resources in order to keep current, but I have subscriptions to all three of the above and haven't really felt the need to look outside of them for stuff to watch.
I used to use all kinds of other resources in order to keep current, but I have subscriptions to all three of the above and haven't really felt the need to look outside of them for stuff to watch.
And she's also completely oblivious to it. It's dumb. God damn it's dumb.
JustAnotherMike
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This thread made me remember the weird trend of the creepy brother/sister relationships from a few series a couple of years ago. The main one was No game No Life. There was so much creepy bullshit wrapped around an entertaining concept of a series.
No over the top human drama? That's a tall order since most series feature teenagers with that shit built in like mobile phone bloatware.
That best thing I can think of right now would be Gundam Build Fighters. Think of it as customizable super smash bros tournament that dedicated to the Gundam Universe.
No over the top human drama? That's a tall order since most series feature teenagers with that shit built in like mobile phone bloatware.
That best thing I can think of right now would be Gundam Build Fighters. Think of it as customizable super smash bros tournament that dedicated to the Gundam Universe.
If you want a kick-ass giant robot show, you should be watching Giant Robo.
It's over-the-top in grand, operatic fashion and shouldn't be missed.
Vulcano's assistant
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Saint Seiya was doing it years before Naruto.
Talking of freaking Seiya. There's nothing worse than having a main character become stronger mid fight just because he has to win, but only after he was beaten within an inch of life, so anatomy doesn't matter, you are now stronger and faster the worse your body has it. The other dude that was stronger than you when you started will stay the same of course, forever.
jhmtehgamr20xx
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"Let's go".
It's just such a cliche, corny manufactured-hype catchphrase. Been noticing it appearing in mainstream American live-action blockbuster films now too. Let's go where, you dick? Why should I with that attitude of yours?
Yeah, that phrase just kind of sucks.
It's just such a cliche, corny manufactured-hype catchphrase. Been noticing it appearing in mainstream American live-action blockbuster films now too. Let's go where, you dick? Why should I with that attitude of yours?
Yeah, that phrase just kind of sucks.
FeenixRising
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I was just about to post this
Bad guys magically getting 8 power ups on the verge of defeat makes me want to throw that anime in the bushes
John Kowalski
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chariot doing god's work
Reading a lot of these just makes me love Hunter X Hunter more for pretty much avoiding these tropes most of the time.
But yeah, some anime take the innocence out of that statement.
Actually, this is quite a common thing that kids say in real life. When kids are really young, completely innocent and don't really understand the concept of marriage and what that would actually mean.
But yeah, some anime take the innocence out of that statement.
HxH... I miss it. ;_;
Paracelsus
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Let Seint Seiya be, it's actually pretty original. Take the Hades Saga, all bronze saints have to face gold saints which happen to have the 7th sense that allows them to move/attack at the speed of light. While the main hero just finds the power-up in his backpocket, the Phoenix saint while facing Shaka Virgo does not,
he lets the saint strip him of all his 5+1 senses with his move, just so he can automatically get the 7th.
Two that really annoy me that are kind of minor:
1. "That Man!" Whenever characters need to make someone seem mysterious or they want to belabor revealing an identity, they all go out of their way to avoid saying the name. The trouble is it quickly reaches comedic levels as they contort conversations around protecting the identity.
2. The we're friends so we're just gonna kinda randomly giggle around each other to show we're friends scene. It's all over the place. Who on earth just randomly laughs at nothing?
1. "That Man!" Whenever characters need to make someone seem mysterious or they want to belabor revealing an identity, they all go out of their way to avoid saying the name. The trouble is it quickly reaches comedic levels as they contort conversations around protecting the identity.
2. The we're friends so we're just gonna kinda randomly giggle around each other to show we're friends scene. It's all over the place. Who on earth just randomly laughs at nothing?
Prototype Viktor
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Heterosexuality, that anime trope needs to go
yanipheonu
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We must accept the Yuri Overlords.
Everything anime with tits is "this is not how it works" =P
I love it. Gearing up scenes are amazing, even in bad anime. I still get a tingly feeling when I think of the Soul Eater scene where they go to keep Medusa from freeing Asura.
1. That's an universal trope. Western media love to play the pronoun game just as much. HE! THEY! SHE!
2. Humans. Did you ever pay attention to other people in public places. Both boys and girl giggle at weird shit.
I can't think of any instances in western media where it's used the way it is in anime. They intentionally avoid saying the person's name until such a point as they feel the mystery should be revealed to the watcher. The characters in the shows know the persons name but the dialogue is written oddly in such a way as to artificially create mystery. A normal person would say in a conversation without any prior mention of a person's name "m. Bison killed my family." In anime its intentionally cryptic. They'll say ano hito or something equally useless without name dropping anywhere in the dialogue until such time as they deign to lift the shroud on this shitty mystery fabricated out of cryptic dialogue.
Kill Bill Vol. 1 comes to mind. They make a point of going out of their way to obscure the lead's name so much (even bleeping it when it's actually used) that you don't even find out what it is until Vol. 2, with one of the only hints being that "Silly rabbit, tricks are for kids" exchange in the first movie.
It happens. From my head I catch Watchmen and all movies where someone is about to betray a shadow organisation or some shadow guy. You should watch Cinema Sins, they point that trope out very often.
That's Onepunchman bait.
And vol 1 had a lot of Japanese influence so I wouldn't be surprised where that came from. Still though by straight censoring the name at least that allowed the dialogue to be written as people actually talk: instead of jumping right to pronouns they can establish who the hell they are talking about first.
Crash Station
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We need more dog traits on people.
The Silver
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see this has actually happened to me in real life, no it wasn't a tall woman, I was sitting down.
Dog Days. Noucome. Outbreak Company.
I can't believe there is something where I call Dog Days. I feel dirty. But the other two are nice, if it's your thing. Dog Days is special special interest.
Crash Station
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Watched them all. Doesn't change the fact there's like 3 series where dog girls are featured prominently against the 8 million where cat girls are.
striferser
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Mysteltain kick from kore wa zombie desu ka. It's actually a chainsaw to the face
And the climax of lucifer and biscuit hammer,
Nikodemos
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Yes to both
True enough. We could also do with calmer animals.
Forgot about that. Technically true, but I meantin an actual shounen series as deliberate tactical choice, not in an anime where in the climax an army of vampire maids destroys flying wales with violines.
Also still waiting on an Lucifer and Biscuit Hammer anime adaption. hmfpfpffpfpf
Saint Seiya probably has the worst fight set ups in an anime. In your typical shonen anime, when two characters battle, usually the bad guy tends to be one step ahead of the good guy. But in Saint Seiya's case, the bad guy(s) is(are) like 12 steps ahead of the good guy(s). Take the fight with Seiya vs. Leo. The latter is so overwhelmingly powerful that Seiya's practically dead after the first attack. Yet oddly enough this seems to happen like 20 more times before finally Seiya discovers whatever new power was needed and manages to defeat Leo.
I absolutely hate fights like that.
edit: And to be clear, Saint Seiya isn't the only one that does this, but it's the most egregious offender.
witchedwiz
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this over and over..
the saint in saint seiya should be hinting that these fighter are purely winning for some miracle chance every single time..
and if they loose, the miracle is there for them to come back alive..
no one stays dead in saint seiya, it's like a dramatica dragonball without any shenron.. simply mc&company will have an ace in their sleeve that will ensure their survival 99% of time
That does sound bad, but I disagree that the hero vs. an enemy of overwhelming strength is inherently bad.
Hunter X Hunter has several confrontations where the heroes are faced with enemies that are notably more powerful than they are, which is why fights are mostly about tactics and outsmarting the enemy without simply using brute strength. It's what makes those fights and the anime itself great, since it doesn't rely on gaining a new power in the midst of battle to one-up enemies.
Anyone here watch "Gangsta."?
It was written by a pretty skilled lady. It destroys tropes. It is a trope BUSTER. It is mature, so expect a lot of blood. It is well done and doesn't seem out of place. Don't let the name fool you either, it isn't about thugs at all. I actually don't know why it is even called "gangsta" in that particular way.
Some tropes that are smashed:
-Adult protagonists (middle aged)
-non beautified protagonists (one of the protags is missing an eye, the other is deaf, and speaks through sign language. BUT HE IS DANGEROUS)
-A sex worker who is saved from the streets, but just haunted by her own thoughts. She kinda has her own parts of the episodes where she goes through a transition between sane, and insane....without spoiling too much.
- An EX MALE SEX WORKER turned hunter who is helping the above lady with her recovery.
-original story. The closest thing I can think of to it is..... Uh well anything with a group of bounty hunters? Maybe. Spike from cowboy bebop?
Watch (at the very least) the first 5 episodes. It also has a kick ass opening song that belongs in a rave club.
Tell me if y'all dig it or not,
It was written by a pretty skilled lady. It destroys tropes. It is a trope BUSTER. It is mature, so expect a lot of blood. It is well done and doesn't seem out of place. Don't let the name fool you either, it isn't about thugs at all. I actually don't know why it is even called "gangsta" in that particular way.
Some tropes that are smashed:
-Adult protagonists (middle aged)
-non beautified protagonists (one of the protags is missing an eye, the other is deaf, and speaks through sign language. BUT HE IS DANGEROUS)
-A sex worker who is saved from the streets, but just haunted by her own thoughts. She kinda has her own parts of the episodes where she goes through a transition between sane, and insane....without spoiling too much.
- An EX MALE SEX WORKER turned hunter who is helping the above lady with her recovery.
-original story. The closest thing I can think of to it is..... Uh well anything with a group of bounty hunters? Maybe. Spike from cowboy bebop?
Watch (at the very least) the first 5 episodes. It also has a kick ass opening song that belongs in a rave club.
Tell me if y'all dig it or not,
so I can know if I need to put y'all on ignore >: D
Vulcano's assistant
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It just drove me mad that the guy that just discovered the new ability is capable of besting in his own game the one who had it mastered for a long time.
(except for Cancer, who was a scrub anyway)
I think this one is pretty tropey, actually, but it sounds interesting. Been hearing some good stuff about Gangsta, and that OP song is cool. I'll definitely check it out.
Keep away from Gangsta at this moment in time. The anime ends abruptly mid-arc which is very disappointing. The anime is enjoyable, but feels flat because the story isn't finished in any way.
It's also not true that it isn't tropey. What about the young girl with inhuman power thst runs around slaughtering armed men with a scyte? Or the little girl that is the leader of a cr
It's also not true that it isn't tropey. What about the young girl with inhuman power thst runs around slaughtering armed men with a scyte? Or the little girl that is the leader of a cr
You'll see..... You'll see what she is haunted by. When you do... It will make sense.
SOON.... SOON...
It's a fucked up city tbh fam. And it isn't a perfect anime. No anime is. It IS anime. But if you look at everything... The larger picture, it is a breath of fresh air compared to everything else.
And holy shit I didn't not know that it ends like that. Thanks for the warning fam. Is there a manga ADAPTATION that goes farther?
Just wanted to point that out, because the initial post didn't make that clear. Also the anime was adapting the manga, so yeah, that continues the story.
Indeed. Manglobe went down hard. But no worry, any studio can pick the series up again.
Shounen anime tropes
soooooo tired of this LOL
edit oh god top page post
Boobie jokes are really boring
JustAnotherMike
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I like Gangsta, but it has the look and feel of an updated Black Lagoon, which was great. I'm not sure if the story is from the same person, but they do share similar DNA.
The main character in that is salary man who gets left to die by his company.
Nah, entirely different people. For something like Black Lagoon look no further than Jormungand - it's even canonly set in the same world and both lack the supernatural mutation element that Gangsta has (although of course action movie logic applies). Jormungand is slightly worse animated than Black Lagoon and not as lively, but still enjoyable.
It's not the phrase itself (like what's bad about saying Brother?) it's the way it's said that makes my skin crawl after a while.
You always have those girls with already high-pitched voices trying to sound cute by pitching their voice even higher, stretching it (oniiiiiiiiiiiiiiii-chan), and worst of all, repeating it.
It's not something that gets annoying immediately, but if you watch a lot of Anime you will reach a point where it starts to sound as bad as nails on a chalkboard every single time.
Can't say anything against that
It hits you really hard when they actually have real children act as children in anime like Barakamon and Usagi Drop have. And people like our goddess Sawashiro really sticks out because she has a very different voice.
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