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[Anime] Your "Controversial" Opinions
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Typographenia
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But he's a supporting character.
perfectnight
Banned
Oh dang here's another:
Naruto part 1 is better then the entirety of One Piece while One Piece as a whole is better than Naruto parts 1 & 2.
Also, it's not controversial at all that naruto is a terrible character. He's terrible because Kishimoto hates him.
Naruto part 1 is better then the entirety of One Piece while One Piece as a whole is better than Naruto parts 1 & 2.
Also, it's not controversial at all that naruto is a terrible character. He's terrible because Kishimoto hates him.
cosmicblizzard
Banned
Among the worst popular main characters in part 2, but there are A LOT of worse ones in lesser known series. The typical harem lead is a thousand times worse usually.
No way.
gatotsu911
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Naruto is one of the better shonen series and I'll take it over Bleach, One Piece or Dragon Ball any day.
fixed.
Hmmm...Bleach is actually a pretty good anime. Outside of fillers (which shouldn't have it counted against it anyway) and some sometimes slow pacing (which is accredited to the original author's slow-style), I enjoyed it thoroughly.
Get the fuck out of my house.
Not controversial.
Crumpet Trumpet
Banned
Actually Cardcaptors and Hamtaro were pretty badass too. Hm
perfectnight
Banned
Naruto falls apart post time-skip though. Oda is a terrible writer but at least he's consistent. Kishimoto is anything but.
That's what I'm saying. I watched it on Netflix last summer. My word, that was awful.
Yup. English dubs can actually be pretty great, and I've always hated the "The Japanese is better just cause it's Japanese" attitude.
Brother! Man, have I gotten into it with people over this.
gatotsu911
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Are you my long-lost twin?
I was about to say that Gurren Lagann's second season sucked, but it looks like that's not as controversial as I thought.
Spoilers:
Mega apologies to anyone who was in the middle of it.
Spoilers:
I usually don't mind killing off a cool character to advance the story, but not when that character is single handedly making your show awesome.
Mega apologies to anyone who was in the middle of it.
Genesis Knight
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Excluding a few anime movies and TV shows that probably number in the low double-digits, anime as an entertainment medium is complete bullshit drivel of the lowest order designed to appeal to the lowest possible denominator. For every Cowboy Bebop or Ghost in the Shell you have countless mind-numbing shit-stains designed to serve as a loose framework in which to present the various sexist, juvenile, and psychotic fetishes and fantasies that populate the minds of very sad, dysfunctional people.
But what good anime there is can be pretty damn amazing.
But what good anime there is can be pretty damn amazing.
oh shit i gotta get out of here and finish GL and hope they didn't kill who i think they did
cosmicblizzard
Banned
Thinking one of the big 3 is good isn't exactly controversial. People on the internet will bust your balls for liking it, but they'll do the same for the Call of Duty games or anything that's popular.
This is true for every form of media.
I still catch up on the (dubbed) airings of Naruto and Bleach sometimes. I really liked arc with the "immortal akatsuki", mainly because Naruto spent most of those episodes in the background.
Bleach started out interesting in the early goings but has been pretty poor ever since.
perfectnight
Banned
this ain't controversial.Vulcano's assistant
Banned
Oh here's another:
What i've seen of Lost Canvas > The Original Saint Seiya (except for the opening)
What i've seen of Lost Canvas > The Original Saint Seiya (except for the opening)
The writing in anime is for the most part, garbage. Too many internal monologues and the dialogue is often too on-the-nose. It's as if most animators feel there's no room for subtlety in their shows. It's why I'm very hesitant to watch recent shows that are anything but comedic. A non-comedic has to have some serious praise for me to give it a watch.
Subbing is in an awful state. Overuse of honorifics when it's not at all relevant to characters. Dialogue is stilted and wooden. It's as if translators choose anyone but native English speakers to edit their subtitles.
One reason I prefer them is because the dub's dialogue is almost always going to be better than what's been written in subtitles.
Subbing is in an awful state. Overuse of honorifics when it's not at all relevant to characters. Dialogue is stilted and wooden. It's as if translators choose anyone but native English speakers to edit their subtitles.
Same.
One reason I prefer them is because the dub's dialogue is almost always going to be better than what's been written in subtitles.
Love has been lost rei....
Genesis Knight
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No. Of all the entertainment forms at hand, anime is one of the most uniquely disproportionate in terms of bad-to-good offerings.
bigmakattack
Banned
My Neighbor Totoro is nowhere near as good as most people make it out to be. Many, many better Ghibli films.
gatotsu911
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Especially "geek" media. You could say just about the exact same thing for comic books, video games, and genre literature.
cosmicblizzard
Banned
Jeez, who forced you to watch Bible Black?
Are you sure about that? Remember, people can self publish books these days
Off of the top of my head, I can literally think of no genre or general form of entertainment that doesn't pander to the lowest common denominator.
abstract alien
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I hate EVA and think its a big waste of time. All that deep shit doesn't matter to me when the show is boring and forgettable.
Naruto(non-filler) is awesome as hell and has interesting characters and situations.
Death Note was great. Weird at times, but great.
The best thing about Champloo was the soundtrack and references. What was actually happening story wise was boring after the first few episodes.
I thought Monster fucking crumbled apart the further it went.
I don't like much about One Piece outside of its quirky characters, but I respect it.
Eh.
Naruto(non-filler) is awesome as hell and has interesting characters and situations.
Death Note was great. Weird at times, but great.
The best thing about Champloo was the soundtrack and references. What was actually happening story wise was boring after the first few episodes.
I thought Monster fucking crumbled apart the further it went.
I don't like much about One Piece outside of its quirky characters, but I respect it.
Eh.
perfectnight
Banned
I didn't watch brotherhood but I did read the manga. I still much prefer the original because the manga completely butchers ALL of the dramatic and plain badass moments from the first. The manga/brother try to hamfist a lot of silly comedy relief sometimes in the middle of supposedly dramatic moments. I have no idea why they thought this was a good idea.
thetechkid
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You are now the person I hate the most.
And just about anyone can make a movie.
cosmicblizzard
Banned
Have you like... done any research? I mean saying there's a lot of shit is accurate, but come on, low double digits? There's a ton of stuff that animegaf could recommend for you if you enjoy CB or GiTS.
Genesis Knight
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Is the anime on Japanese television self-published? Do self-published books get put on store shelves in major retailers both domestically and internationally?
It's an opinion thread; I'm just stating my impression. That said, I've spent a lot (read far too much) of time looking for good anime to watch, since as I said it's great when it works. The stuff that is recommended to me based on my love of Bebop and Ghost in the Shell is usually very disappointing, but hit me if you've got something new to recommend. Going to bed right now though, cheers.
JerzeyDevil
Banned
Digital Coloring has sucked away alot of the charm and "look" of modern anime. Everything is too shiny and pristine nowadays and it bothers me. Shading seems to be a thing of the past as well.
I dont know if thats controversial or not, as Ive met quite a few people that would prefer things done the old way still. Of course as a business that makes zero sense. Just a feeling.
I still enjoy contemporary anime however, so its not a dealbreaker.
I dont know if thats controversial or not, as Ive met quite a few people that would prefer things done the old way still. Of course as a business that makes zero sense. Just a feeling.
I still enjoy contemporary anime however, so its not a dealbreaker.
Rahxephon91
Banned
Trent Strong
Banned
The idea that Gurren Lagann is better than Evangelion is mind-blowingly absurd.
Yep.
Look, I tried to love Brotherhood. I really did. But I just couldn't.
Manga > Original Anime > Brotherhood
gatotsu911
Member
Quality of scripting is also a major factor for me when deciding which language to watch anime in. If the dub dialogue is sufficiently better then the subtitle translation, that can single-handedly make my decision for me.
Another opinion: Most fan translations are a joke, and their idea of being "faithful" to the source material results in stilted pidgin-speak dialogue that is absolutely fucking unreadable.
I don't find this controversial. Innocence is a pretty bleak look at what could have been (or what did happen) depending on which of the various incarnations of GitS you prefer to think of as canon (the films, SAC/2nd GIG, and Solid State Society).
And if you ignore self published books, it still doesn't change the fact that ratio of bad books to good ones is still high. It's not really an issue only related to anime.
p_xavier
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English dubs are usually inferior because the English language has not many nuances in vocal interpretation. There should be ups and downs when saying a sentence and most of English dubs come as monotonous.
PdotMichael
Banned
The last time I was in a bookstore I saw hundreds of Twilight books and the last Jamie Oliver cookbook and the best seller list was also not that good too, so I don't see the big difference.
cosmicblizzard
Banned
Well you could can check out this thread.
But hey, if you've really spent a lot of time looking and still can't find anything, not much I can say to change your mind. To each his own.
Genesis Knight
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@blizzard, I'll browse through that one.
Except even Twilight is significantly better than most anime. And Jamie Oliver cooks some...okay, yeah.
Except even Twilight is significantly better than most anime. And Jamie Oliver cooks some...okay, yeah.
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