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Anita Sarkeesian: "No more excuses for the lack of women at E3".

"a very dark moment for the industry"

A tragedy...

What about all the mobile games that have female leads?

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I have no problem with female led games, but it shouldn't be forced.
I share this exact semtiment.

Thanks for posting.
 

EDMIX

Member
This right here is why I've never understood the such intense disdain for her.

Like, she's obviously extreme. People will listen to her, but literally nobody is going to take her at face value except the types of guys who feel compelled to appease women LIKE Anita.

Just...ignore her. It's not like she's going to influence everyone and it's not like she has any real power to change people's established tastes.


The only reason Anita became as well-known as she is, is because the incel weirdos that took a disliking to her HATED her SO MUCH that the responses and attacks to her videos became bigger than the videos themselves.

Anita's haters are what made her lol.....and they're the reason she will never die.

Slow clap. Thank you, thank you and thank you 1000x.

Be like "Listen here Anita, diversity in games exist, Tomb Raider, The Last Of Us, Fear Effect etc, stay out of our games"

Also them.

"Listen here Anita, diversity in games IS BEING FORCED DOWN OUR THROATS, Tomb Raider, The Last Of Us, Fear Effect etc, stay out of our games"

Funny enough, even the examples given to show her that diversity and freedom to express ourselves in games exist, would simply be used to argue a "agenda".

I don't think Fear Effect or Tomb Raider and funny enough The Last Of Us could release TODAY and not get this whole "itz da wokez" and or "shoving it down meh throat cuz Anitaz".

So folks, you know what can help this person see this exist in gaming? To not get TRIGGERED WHEN IT EXIST IN GAMING! Not everything is a conspiracy folks.
 
Sure, put them all in one location and let them shout all they want. Then anyone who wants to go to them can, and anyone else can enjoy actual fun games.
 

Paracelsus

Member
The only reason Anita became as well-known as she is, is because the incel weirdos that took a disliking to her HATED her SO MUCH that the responses and attacks to her videos became bigger than the videos themselves.

Anita's haters are what made her lol.....and they're the reason she will never die.

BS, Anita's rise was clearly planned along with the entire shift towards identity politics.
Everything was set to happen and it was already happening long before GG even took place, a really sketchy event that may or may have not accelerated it.
These things never happen organically.
 

lock2k

Banned
This right here is why I've never understood the such intense disdain for her.

Like, she's obviously extreme. People will listen to her, but literally nobody is going to take her at face value except the types of guys who feel compelled to appease women LIKE Anita.

Just...ignore her. It's not like she's going to influence everyone and it's not like she has any real power to change people's established tastes.


The only reason Anita became as well-known as she is, is because the incel weirdos that took a disliking to her HATED her SO MUCH that the responses and attacks to her videos became bigger than the videos themselves.

Anita's haters are what made her lol.....and they're the reason she will never die.
You don't seem to understand the difference between hating and despising someone. Hate is reserved for important people like Adolf Hitler. Anita is like a bug, a very annoying one, but not important enough to be hated. But like the bug that she is, he surely helped to spread a brain disease and that's why people with half a brain despise her.
 

Strazyplus

Member
Thought for a moment that Anita Sarkeesian was making noise (again) about females and E3 (which is canceled) while there are a pandemic and protests going on.

Re-reading those comments is a big yikes. There are a good amount of sexist remarks. some need to reflect on what they said.
 

Spokker

Member
Anita and people like her could clean up right now if they play their cards right. There are very few leaders in the business or political world with a spine anymore. Companies are ripe to be brow beaten into submission like they were on the race issue. They just have to wait their turn.
 
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I remember the good ol days when there was a ton of women at E3 in skimpy clothing. So the ones that banished them, in the end want woman back again, preferably to be dressed like a boy and short haircut with an extra layer of fat on the side. MAM!.
 
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petran79

Banned
Slow clap. Thank you, thank you and thank you 1000x.

Be like "Listen here Anita, diversity in games exist, Tomb Raider, The Last Of Us, Fear Effect etc, stay out of our games"

Also them.

"Listen here Anita, diversity in games IS BEING FORCED DOWN OUR THROATS, Tomb Raider, The Last Of Us, Fear Effect etc, stay out of our games"

Funny enough, even the examples given to show her that diversity and freedom to express ourselves in games exist, would simply be used to argue a "agenda".

I don't think Fear Effect or Tomb Raider and funny enough The Last Of Us could release TODAY and not get this whole "itz da wokez" and or "shoving it down meh throat cuz Anitaz".

So folks, you know what can help this person see this exist in gaming? To not get TRIGGERED WHEN IT EXIST IN GAMING! Not everything is a conspiracy folks.

Those games are very problematic and misogynistic too, eg gtav.

But the companies behind them have big support and fund them with ads, so it is easier to blame some niche Japanese games who were not even created for export in the first place.
 

D3SCHA1N

Member
I feel like presenter wise E3 has had a disproportionate amount of women for years. I'm not against it, it's just plain to see that they've made the effort to increase female presenters. Just because it's not a 50/50 split doesn't mean it's still not commendable, but with people like Sarkeese, when you give an inch they look to take a mile, so it'll never be enough...
 

BadBurger

Is 'That Pure Potato'
As a liberal, I'll just say this: ignore Anita. She is grifting the left the same way certain people grift the right. Don't even give her the dignity of a response IMO. Her arguments are so stupid and built around guilting men into giving her money. Ignore and move on.
 

ShinNL

Member
I know the original numbers is from the oldish OP, but this is just funny to me how people use numbers.

So she heard only 15% is female-led, so she decided to start counting.

She counted and got 9% females, vs 32% males. Assuming the rest of the games are basically non-humans or you can select/make your own gender.

Math: 32% + 9% = 41%.
41% of all games announced had a gender-specific lead. The other 59% is irrelevant, because controlling a rocket-fueled car isn't part of the discussion.

9% of 41% means:
9 / 41 * 100 = 22% of gender-specific lead are females.

So she ended up with a better result than the original statement.... so it's basically going into the right direction 🤔????
 

Grinchy

Banned
This is kinda amazing to me considering how gamers were looked upon when I was growing up lol. Nerdy male virgins and now that you can make money doing it there’s not enough females represented in the hobby.

This is what I find so dumb about it all.

When I was growing up, you were a complete and utter dork if you admitted to playing videogames. Girls were absolutely repulsed by the hobby in every way. And now I'm told I was part of the "problem" and was "gatekeeping" to keep girls away from it for all those years. It's all made up.
 

royox

Member
This is what I find so dumb about it all.

When I was growing up, you were a complete and utter dork if you admitted to playing videogames. Girls were absolutely repulsed by the hobby in every way. And now I'm told I was part of the "problem" and was "gatekeeping" to keep girls away from it for all those years. It's all made up.

Reading that made me so angry. That's so fucking true and those motherfuckers will now act as if we were trying to keep girls away when they were so repulsed for the idea of "guy that plays videogames". Fuck you, fuck you all.
 

Saruhashi

Banned
This right here is why I've never understood the such intense disdain for her.

Like, she's obviously extreme. People will listen to her, but literally nobody is going to take her at face value except the types of guys who feel compelled to appease women LIKE Anita.

Just...ignore her. It's not like she's going to influence everyone and it's not like she has any real power to change people's established tastes.


The only reason Anita became as well-known as she is, is because the incel weirdos that took a disliking to her HATED her SO MUCH that the responses and attacks to her videos became bigger than the videos themselves.

Anita's haters are what made her lol.....and they're the reason she will never die.

Maybe.
The reason this all happened is plainly obvious though.

A previously unknown person enters an established community and proceed to talk trash about said community.
The problem is that this person is talking shite and some of their "takes" are just flat out nonsense.
So, like most communities online, people want to present a counter argument and take her shitty takes apart.
However, comments are shut off and likes and dislikes are shut off.
What's worse is anyone who has a go at criticizing her is branded an "incel weirdo" or whatever.
So this creates a feedback loop.
On top of all that people with a bit of clout in the community support her AND misrepresent her critics.

Lets say a new poster comes to NeoGAF and talks trash about Playstation.
People try to debunk their points but no no no this person has the entire forum on ignore and usually just makes an OP then bails.
However, they DO go to Twitter and moan about "XBox harassers" then come back to the forum and have another ill informed take on Playstation.
THEN mods and community leaders here start promoting the anti-Playstation threads and calling anyone who speaks out childish names.
You think this would not cause absolute outrage here?

The problem with Anita and the gaming community was always that criticism of her work was never really given any mainstream platform.
Like criticism of gaming was held up as this really good and amazing thing. Yet, criticism of the criticism was a huge no-no.
If Trump says videogames cause violence you will get plenty of articles pushing the counter argument.
If Anita says videogames cause misogyny it's just accepted as fact and no counter argument will be given the time of day.

It's true. Anita made her haters and then Anita's haters made her. This was facilitated by a mainstream media and industry that seemed determined to outright demonize anyone who said she was full of shit.
 

JohnnyFootball

GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Like, she's obviously extreme. People will listen to her, but literally nobody is going to take her at face value except the types of guys who feel compelled to appease women LIKE Anita.
The problem is that these kinds of guys are running game studios.

I don't disagree that giving her attention is the best thing for her. But Jeremy Habley from The Quartering and Jeremy from Geeks & Gamers WON'T ignore her since she is a gold mine for clicks.
 
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ksdixon

Member
Slow clap. Thank you, thank you and thank you 1000x.

Be like "Listen here Anita, diversity in games exist, Tomb Raider, The Last Of Us, Fear Effect etc, stay out of our games"

Also them.

"Listen here Anita, diversity in games IS BEING FORCED DOWN OUR THROATS, Tomb Raider, The Last Of Us, Fear Effect etc, stay out of our games"

Funny enough, even the examples given to show her that diversity and freedom to express ourselves in games exist, would simply be used to argue a "agenda".

I don't think Fear Effect or Tomb Raider and funny enough The Last Of Us could release TODAY and not get this whole "itz da wokez" and or "shoving it down meh throat cuz Anitaz".

So folks, you know what can help this person see this exist in gaming? To not get TRIGGERED WHEN IT EXIST IN GAMING! Not everything is a conspiracy folks.

Very poor examples to use, if I understand your post that you're downplaying it.

Tlou2's lead writer has openly admitted to admiring Anita, and the story leaks look all the worse for it. Tomb Raider had that whole "you'll want to protect Laura" nonsense drama about it.
 
This is what I find so dumb about it all.

When I was growing up, you were a complete and utter dork if you admitted to playing videogames. Girls were absolutely repulsed by the hobby in every way. And now I'm told I was part of the "problem" and was "gatekeeping" to keep girls away from it for all those years. It's all made up.
Yep, this. A lot.
And this can be transferred to almost all of what is now called "nerd culture" that has gone mainstream over the last twenty years.
Those thots didn't give a fuck back then, but now they all act like us men are the problem now.
 

Azurro

Banned
This right here is why I've never understood the such intense disdain for her.

Like, she's obviously extreme. People will listen to her, but literally nobody is going to take her at face value except the types of guys who feel compelled to appease women LIKE Anita.

Just...ignore her. It's not like she's going to influence everyone and it's not like she has any real power to change people's established tastes..

Mmmm...have you not seen TLOU2? Druckmann is basically a human carpet for this lady.
 

GymWolf

Member
This is what I find so dumb about it all.

When I was growing up, you were a complete and utter dork if you admitted to playing videogames. Girls were absolutely repulsed by the hobby in every way. And now I'm told I was part of the "problem" and was "gatekeeping" to keep girls away from it for all those years. It's all made up.
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Geki-D

Banned
Mmmm...have you not seen TLOU2? Druckmann is basically a human carpet for this lady.
Ah yes. Anita, known mostly for her stance against violence against women in media. I'm sure she'll love TLOU2...
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It really is funny that a women who hasn't done anything of relevance in video games for about 6 years besides maybe 2 or 3 Tweets is still a big scary boogeyman to some of you :messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy:
 

Kamina

Golden Boy
Ah yes. Anita, known mostly for her stance against violence against women in media. I'm sure she'll love TLOU2...
Apparently violence against woman is okay if it is committed by other women. The problem starts when men commit the violence. 🙄
 
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kuncol02

Banned
Ah yes. Anita, known mostly for her stance against violence against women in media. I'm sure she'll love TLOU2...
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:pie_eyeroll:

It really is funny that a women who hasn't done anything of relevance in video games for about 6 years besides maybe 2 or 3 Tweets is still a big scary boogeyman to some of you :messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy:
I hope that journalists who cried that Tomb Raider reboot is torture porn will say something about that. Seriously whoever directed last scene should seek help.
 
Ah yes. Anita, known mostly for her stance against violence against women in media. I'm sure she'll love TLOU2...
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:pie_eyeroll:

It really is funny that a women who hasn't done anything of relevance in video games for about 6 years besides maybe 2 or 3 Tweets is still a big scary boogeyman to some of you :messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy:

Cuckmann himself has mentioned just how important The Sark is to him and the creation of TLOU2.
 

MiguelItUp

Member
More diversity is always a great thing. But you can't have more diversity without.... more diversity. So if there aren't more women within the industry, then there won't be more women at E3. That's all there really is to it. Hell, I'd think it'd be cool to see a lot of things, but you can't and shouldn't think about forcing them.
 
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