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ANT-MAN | Production Thread
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Yeah that was stupid but I think what they portrayed with that scene is what they had planned for Ant-Man to do, wasn't it? Him accidentally hitting her out of frustration and not intending to?
I've looked a lot more into the Ant-Man thing and If that panel was the only thing and the intentions were messed up by the artist, I don't think it's fair that panel is held over him.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I find it hilarious just how much to an extreme Millar took it
Ultimate Pym is such a son of a bitch.
Ultimate Pym is such a son of a bitch.
It's exacerbated by the fact that later writers decided to keep that thread going for some dumb reason. Now everybody makes jokes about hurr durr don't you have a wife to beat.
Yeah I think these were the ones I saw. Ultimate universe Pym is evil but none of those are his original character right?I find it hilarious just how much to an extreme Millar took it
Ultimate Pym is such a son of a bitch.
Like? Or are we talking about Ultimate universe posted above?
he was having a psychotic break and lashed out. it could have been anyone in jans place, and it still would have happened. but he still has the "lol wifebeater" stigma behind him because writers following fumbled the ball to make it seem so much worse than it was. and noone really wanted to touch it after that, so it set.
Ah. Yeah the whole thing is just weird.
Oh ew. :/
I don't understand why they want to ruin a character that way.
hawkeye, his supposed friend threatening to come after him if he does it again, various characters throwing it in his face(like norman osborn and carol danvers, among others.)
its brought up quite a bit when hank is on panel. which is funny because with all the long histories of characters, and the countless things forgotten, its the only thing that sticks.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Someone needs to do a palate cleanse series for Ant-Man like Fraction's Hawkeye or Ellis' Moon Knight.
no. that needs to stay. its a part of who he is. tony starking him would be lame. what should happen is that everytime someone cracks on him about it, he throws their past back in their faces
case in point
Ooohhhh I was meaning does he commit more abusive acts but it doesn't seem like he does so I don't understand why this one is held over him when it was an accident. Ultimate one is pure scum though.
its a one time thing. and they bring it up because its what hes most known for at this point.
And Slayven just recently put me on to what a piece of shit Hawkeye was to Mockingbird.
superdeluxe
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Will Ant-Man beat Dr. Strange to the punch by introducing the Charmed sisters to the MCU?
Edit: Forgot about Scarlet Witch in AoU. XD
Damn, that's a callback.
George Oscar Bluth II
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That is a really unexpected callback.
Pai Pai Master
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lol wow, that is an obscure ass reference, would never have caught it if someone didn't point it out
Can someone explain for us who haven't been following Ant-Man?
fallengorn
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Can someone explain for us who haven't been following Ant-Man?
It's the drink from the Incredible Hulk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehAkYxYze7M
Oh wow. I just finished Iron-Man 1, and is going to watch Incredible Hulk this weekend.
This doesn't make any sense to me. Aside from being revealing about where some of the priorities for this movie are, you're forgetting that Marvel signed off on it. If Feige and co. didn't want an Ant-Man movie with Lang as the hero, Pym as the older mentor and Janet out of the picture, they would have either passed on Wright's pitch or asked him to rewrite it as a Hank/Janet story. They didn't. So it's as much Marvel's decision to go the Scott/Hope route as it was Wright's.
Pai Pai Master
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Yeah there's even a One-Shot all about it. Marvel doesn't try to tuck TIH under the rug like they're ashamed of it. But referencing that specific scene and soda brand is pretty obscure.
It hasn't been retconned except for the teaser at the end. Everything else is still valid.
alexandros
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Marvel probably doesn't talk about it that much because of the lead actor change. I doubt it's because they're ashamed of it or something, it was an ok movie. They want the spotlight on Ruffalo.
Pai Pai Master
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Yeah they've shown footage from the movie multiple times in other things, just not anything with Norton shown.
Yeah, that's what I was referring to.
Of course, just to a lesser extent than all the other phase 1 movies. Things like none of the actors introduced in the film appearing in any other MCU movies, not releasing an 'Art of' book, and moving the spotlight away Norton's Banner as others have mentioned makes the film feel like a less significant entry into the MCU franchise.
"Ignored" was probably a bit strong on my part
Up until now, there hasn't been a good story reason for any of the actors from TIH to show up, IMO.
Since SHIELD is no longer around to keep the military off Banner's back, I wouldn't mind seeing a Ross cameo in Ultron, but I doubt they have the time.
Yeah I really hope Ross shows up sometime too, William Hurt did a great job.
phazedplasma
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is that dr stranges house in the set pics. I would love it if it was.
Pai Pai Master
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They're in San Diego, aren't they? Maybe it's Pym's home.
alexandros
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Agreed, great actor. I want Tim Roth back too!
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Teaser at the end? You mean the one hinting that Banner has the Hulk controlled?
Not quite retconned, since he was able to transform into the Hulk at will.
He's "always angry."
No. Stark talking to Ross.
Its not reconned. There is a full canon Marvel One Shot of it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oOE3mJcGtU
OdysseusVA
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Mostly downhill from here
I'm aware.
Father_Brain
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Retroactively changing the context of a scene so that it means something completely different from what it was originally intended to mean is very much a retcon.
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