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It's like a post is being deleted every 5 minutes. So weird.

Doesn't seem that weird when said posts are directly referencing another forum or industry insiders that have moved to another forum and nothing else. Seems pretty damn deliberate to me.
 
Go take a look at what's happening on RE and tell me that's censorship.


I recognize most of the mods there, censorship will come and it'll come hard. You guys are deluding yourselves if you think this honeymoon period with last forever. What did you expect them to do, be so stupid that they'll immediately start banning people with the opening of the new site? C'mon.
 
This is the thing though, some of the toxicity has moved over to the new forums. Some of the vocal minority that made NeoGAF unpleasant to post if you had a different opinion, has already moved there. They're using the same usernames.

Obviously if it's not tolerated then great. As some people say NeoGAF was strict but I don't agree. Some of the stuff people were allowed to post without punishment was shocking.

It's in a honeymoon phase at the minute so time will tell what the forums end up like.

It... really doesn't matter that the toxicity has "moved." The damage has already been done. If a dev or other personality joins GAF and became subject to toxicity because someone doesn't like some decisions that were made about a game, or if a podcast personality gets crapped on because of their opinions or even something small like the way they talk, rather than receive constructive criticism about their work, they just receive the toxicity and have a terrible first impression of GAF.

Someone mentioned earlier how Giant Bomb personalities on the latest Bombcast felt slighted by certain GAF members attitude towards them in the past. Even Jeff Cannata on his show DLC this week mentioned certain posters' attitudes drove him away from GAF years ago or something along those lines.
 
Hoo doo, is really late for me. Could you post in the discords that they are deleting non insulting and not mentioning the other forums not even by name when a dev wants to givw its point of view to a legitamate question.
I copied my censored pot on italics in this same page.

The Discords are well aware of the censorship and post deletion happening even before RE was officially launched. But that's just a feeble attempt by EL to stem the bleeding, most likely.

I recognize most of the mods there, censorship will come and it'll come hard. You guys are deluding yourselves if you think this honeymoon period with last forever. What did you expect them to do, be so stupid that they'll immediately start banning people with the opening of the new site? C'mon.

So what's your point? You suspect there'll be mad censorship later for absolutely no reason?
You suspect that we all secretly really want to talk about NeoGAF over there while the entire NeoGAF community has simply moved over and become the ResetEra community?

Your concerns are duly noted. The community, meanwhile, has moved on.

And honestly, there's really no reason for you to entrench yourself like this clinging to something that is a shell of it's former self.
 
Doesn't seem that weird when said posts are directly referencing another forum or industry insiders that have moved to another forum and nothing else. Seems pretty damn deliberate to me.

Free ads to a rival site are being deleted? Shocking.

They deleted a developerÂ’s post that did not mention the other forum. SpacePirate RidleyÂ’s post did not reference another forum and was a detailed post about developer interaction with forums.
 
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Good thing Amir0x canÂ’t access GAF from jail.
 
It... really doesn't matter that the toxicity has "moved.".

It does matter if the people that left Gaf and now join a new forum, are greeted with a similar scenario.

As I said though itÂ’s going to depend on how the site is run. YouÂ’re always going to get different opinions, but itÂ’s how those opinions are dealt with.

Some forums allow certain opinions regardless of how offensive they may be, and other forums moderate them more to create a more pleasant atmosphere.

The last thing the creators of the new forum want is a “same shit different toilet” scenario...
 
They deleted a developerÂ’s post that did not mention the other forum. SpacePirate RidleyÂ’s post did not reference another forum and was a detailed post about developer interaction with forums.

I must be hallucinating because I can still see both of his posts on this thread lol

The original and the second post where he copy and pasted his original post in italics (post #85)
 
What about the posts from the first page mentioning verified proper nouns who have migrated?


You mean that's not advertisement? The whole fucking thread is a giant advertisement here. If I'm getting sick of these obnoxious cheap tactics I wonder what the mods must think.
 
They deleted a developerÂ’s post that did not mention the other forum. SpacePirate RidleyÂ’s post did not reference another forum and was a detailed post about developer interaction with forums.

Did you not see the og dev post that DID mention the other forum before it was edited for the second repost?

You mean that's not advertisement? The whole fucking thread is a giant advertisement here. If I'm getting sick of these obnoxious cheap tactics I wonder what the mods must think.
Cheap tactics? So talking about what is happening and the truth of where people are going is "cheap tactics"?
 
You mean that's not advertisement? The whole fucking thread is a giant advertisement here. If I'm getting sick of these obnoxious cheap tactics I wonder what the mods must think.

I wonder that myself. They could ban even more members but that wouldn't help much seeing as the front page of GAF is already slow as molasses and the communities are completely extinct.

For all your guy's talk of 'we just want to talk about games', you sure aren't actually doing much of it and it shows.
 
I recognize most of the mods there, censorship will come and it'll come hard. You guys are deluding yourselves if you think this honeymoon period with last forever. What did you expect them to do, be so stupid that they'll immediately start banning people with the opening of the new site? C'mon.

They literally banned all political and social discussion here.

And you're arguing with people over another whether or not another website censors a specific topic maybe in the future.

God damn, man.
 
You mean that's not advertisement? The whole fucking thread is a giant advertisement here. If I'm getting sick of these obnoxious cheap tactics I wonder what the mods must think.

How is saying the names of journalists that left this site an advertisement for another site when it's literally a direct answer to the question in the title of this thread
 
I recognize most of the mods there, censorship will come and it'll come hard. You guys are deluding yourselves if you think this honeymoon period with last forever. What did you expect them to do, be so stupid that they'll immediately start banning people with the opening of the new site? C'mon.

Haha "It hasn't happened yet but I'm sure it will!" and this is rich considering GAF is even more restrictive now than it was before with even more nebulous moderation.
 
It does matter if the people that left Gaf and now join a new forum, are greeted with a similar scenario.

As I said though it's going to depend on how the site is run. You're always going to get different opinions, but it's how those opinions are dealt with.

Some forums allow certain opinions regardless of how offensive they may be, and other forums moderate them more to create a more pleasant atmosphere.

The last thing the creators of the new forum want is a "same shit different toilet" scenario...

Yes, toxicity is everywhere, but that's not the point of my original post. I'm strictly talking about the toxicity and negativity that certain devs and other gaming personalities have received in the past here on GAF. It doesn't matter that they received negativity or will receive negativity somewhere else, that's not relevant to my original post and I don't know why you are bringing it up to me. This thread is about whether devs and such will stay or are staying on GAF, I don't care about the state of the rest of the internet's toxicity.
 
Free ads to a rival site are being deleted? Shocking.
Yeah now people are just being ridiculous. We get it you hate the place you posted on and moved somewhere else that will be in direct conpetition. Why the fuck do you think the owner should just let you keep shouting out the competition unabated?
 
They literally banned all political and social discussion here.

And you're arguing with people over another whether or not another website censors a specific topic maybe in the future.

God damn, man.
This, plus the active censorship going on here of linking to that other forum. Which, I should also note, is a historical practice here not directed by ToS.

How deep does the sand go?
 
Yeah now people are just being ridiculous. We get it you hate the place you posted on and moved somewhere else that will be in direct conpetition. Why the fuck do you think the owner should just let you keep shouting out the competition unabated?

Because it's a direct answer to the OP? Why keep the thread open at all if the answer that many people are giving is all the same and is now apparently not allowed because it's advertising its "direct conpetition"?
 
Yeah now people are just being ridiculous. We get it you hate the place you posted on and moved somewhere else that will be in direct conpetition. Why the fuck do you think the owner should just let you keep shouting out the competition unabated?

Yeah because the things getting removed from GAF have everything to do with the new forum and not about the owner arbitrarily deleting tons of threads that have nothing to do with the crisis he was facing after shutting down the site and then closing large sections of it.
 
It... really doesn't matter that the toxicity has "moved." The damage has already been done. If a dev or other personality joins GAF and became subject to toxicity because someone doesn't like some decisions that were made about a game, or if a podcast personality gets crapped on because of their opinions or even something small like the way they talk, rather than receive constructive criticism about their work, they just receive the toxicity and have a terrible first impression of GAF.

Someone mentioned earlier how Giant Bomb personalities on the latest Bombcast felt slighted by certain GAF members attitude towards them in the past. Even Jeff Cannata on his show DLC this week mentioned certain posters' attitudes drove him away from GAF years ago or something along those lines.

I didn't intend any insult toward your country. I really love it here, actually, and I really don't want to leave. The weather's nice, the food is amazing, everything's cheap, the women are on average more beautiful than anywhere else I've been, and everyone is pleasant and positive and lies to have a good time.

What I meant by the comment:

- People party really hard in Spain, and this was the biggest party there is.

- People get pretty aggressively physically really fast in Spain (which that girl was with me, getting all up in me hard out of nowhere with ulterior motives just for the stupid 2 euro drink).

Not "LOL DUMB SPANISH BARBARIANS HAHA I AMERICAN" or "LOLOLOL STUPID WOMEN NEED ASS GRABBING." I hope everyone here knows me better than that by now by the policies I set on my website and how I convey myself, but more like, " understand the context of what went down; I wasn't being an asshole, I was just playing fair by the rules she established in that moment. It's Spain; it's ridiculously enormous party where everyone is smashed and going for broke in the midst of people getting gored and ricking death."
 
Yes, toxicity is everywhere, but that's not the point of my original post. I'm strictly talking about the toxicity and negativity that certain devs and other gaming personalities have received in the past here on GAF. It doesn't matter that they received negativity anywhere else, that's not relevant to my original post and I don't know why you are bringing it up to me. This thread is about whether devs and such will stay on GAF, I don't care about the state of the rest of the internet's toxicity.

Fair enough. I donÂ’t know why IÂ’ve brought it up with you either if you didnÂ’t mention it lol. My excuse is ItÂ’s nearly 4am here so I quoted the wrong person, sorry.

Anyway my post was referencing the underlying tone of this thread being that developers are moving from NeoGAF to the new forum as itÂ’ll be special.

Time will tell what happens there, it’s been a day but if the same posters that made this forum shitty at times are allowed free reign then it’ll just be “same shit, different toilet”
 
Yeah now people are just being ridiculous. We get it you hate the place you posted on and moved somewhere else that will be in direct conpetition. Why the fuck do you think the owner should just let you keep shouting out the competition unabated?
Why shouldnÂ’t people be able to discuss how to find developers on a gaming forum? Like when Dyack and others left, should posts telling others they can find the developers on Twitter should be deleted? If the developer has posts on Twitter or some other site regarding a bug fix or new feature/content, should the posts on that be deleted because the developer didnÂ’t post it on GAF?
 
Go take a look at what's happening on RE and tell me that's censorship.

I like how people are fear mongering about what ERA is and isn't and the carnage it'll be because draconian moderation and the bad apples and it's like...right there. Go and look and you'll see for yourself.

Easier to just run with false narratives and dramatise things.
 
Can anyone explain why they left?

Things got heated, bunch of people repeatedly going lazy devs and harping on it. Devs have been posting less in most places. There were still a decent amount of devs left before shit went down, though. Koei had some people I remember and there was Xseed that was pretty active, a few 343 people, etc.

We also had a few from naughty dog and one from another sony dev, IIRC. There are probably more of course, just can't remember off the top of my head.
 
What was the total members of that place? The one I found on Google lists less than 300 members. That might be why it is dead.
Hippo-Age? Its gone through so many versions since OA I can't keep track anymore but it used to be larger.

This is far and away the most successful GAF offshoot though, I wasnt a believer either but the larger community transitioned almost seemlessly. I dont dpubt moderation will be a concern down the line but it does seem the community has made its decision. This place wont die but it will likely never push the traffic it did before. Still skeptical of the other place but this place still has the same issues anyway as far as I can tell.
 
I don't think there are many devs here. this incident just made things worse. i don't think there's much of anything left here tbh, front page slow as shit, comunities is a cemetery

i regret not giving a fuck about discord and not joining one now i gotta wait like shit
 
Fair enough. I donÂ’t know why IÂ’ve brought it up with you either if you didnÂ’t mention it lol. My excuse is ItÂ’s nearly 4am here so I quoted the wrong person, sorry.

Anyway my post was referencing the underlying tone of this thread being that developers are moving from NeoGAF to the new forum as itÂ’ll be special.

Time will tell what happens there, it’s been a day but if the same posters that made this forum shitty at times are allowed free reign then it’ll just be “same shit, different toilet”

Sorry if I came off a bit harsh. I mean, maybe devs will move to the other board? I donÂ’t know. I donÂ’t think anybody knows for sure. ThereÂ’s been nothing to indicate that as far as I know.

ItÂ’s possible that devs could still stay here. I mean, places like reddit have shitty communities like KiA and yet devs browse and post on reddit all the time in the appropriate communities. But right now, being a part of GAF is a tainted look.
 
Things got heated, bunch of people repeatedly going lazy devs and harping on it. Devs have been posting less in most places. There were still a decent amount of devs left before shit went down, though. Koei had some people I remember and there was Xseed that was pretty active, a few 343 people, etc.

We also had a few from naughty dog and one from another sony dev, IIRC. There are probably more of course, just can't remember off the top of my head.

Add to the terms of service that this kind of posts constitute a ban, and start banning people.
 
Sorry if I came off a bit harsh. I mean, maybe devs will move to the other board? I donÂ’t know. I donÂ’t think anybody knows for sure. ThereÂ’s been nothing to indicate that as far as I know.

ItÂ’s possible that devs could still stay here. I mean, places like reddit have shitty communities like KiA and yet devs browse and post on reddit all the time in the appropriate communities. But right now, being a part of GAF is a tainted look.

No worries at all, the issue with reading text is it can be difficult to know how a post is meant.

Totally agree with your last sentence. In all honesty if things stay as they are on here e.g barely any gaming threads and lots of spam IÂ’ll be off anyway, as IÂ’m sure many others will be.

IÂ’ve found myself reading the Switch reddit more and more as it seemed to be a better source for things Nintendo in recent times.
 
The new forum isn't doing the same. You are referencing to the request made to not make threads on NeoGAF?

This has been decided collectively in the discord. It's been a suggestion by the community, not the staff. People on RE don't want to kindle resentment between the two boards and would rather leave it in the past.

And honestly, people on ResetEra currently have zero incentive to even talk about NeoGAF. I mean, what does this board have to offer currently?
We made plenty of jokes and comments about Evilore in the discords already over the last two days. The community is moving on.

Go take a look at what's happening on RE and tell me that's censorship.

Are you still here with a foot on each side stirring shit?
 
Yeah now people are just being ridiculous. We get it you hate the place you posted on and moved somewhere else that will be in direct conpetition. Why the fuck do you think the owner should just let you keep shouting out the competition unabated?

Because the owner fucked up, not the community, and the community deserves the courtesy of being able to figure things out among the chaos, not be punished. Under these circumstances if members want to leave for totally rational and reasonable reasons, why not give them the space to organise where to meet up with people they've been talking to for years that they might lose track of? Seeing the rush of people begging for invites to discords and forums in every community thread and getting no response was sad to see, it all had to be done in the shadows because any reference to anything other than GAF (including discord) was swiftly deleted or worse, the user banned. In stark comparison forums like Waypoint and slaent welcomed people in and gave them space to organise invites to the new forum. They willing and actively helped people transition to direct competition because that's what the heart of a community should be about.
 
I recognize most of the mods there, censorship will come and it'll come hard. You guys are deluding yourselves if you think this honeymoon period with last forever. What did you expect them to do, be so stupid that they'll immediately start banning people with the opening of the new site? C'mon.
Already did ban some trolls though. Why would they not immediately ban those?
 
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