Krappadizzle
Member
Doesn't seem that weird when said posts are directly referencing another forum or industry insiders that have moved to another forum and nothing else. Seems pretty damn deliberate to me.
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Doesn't seem that weird when said posts are directly referencing another forum or industry insiders that have moved to another forum and nothing else. Seems pretty damn deliberate to me.
Yeah something weird is happening. I thought his post was on page 2 and then it went back a page. Thought I was going crazy...
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
Edit, ok seems they erased other posts so my passed to a page before.
Still not cool, i read everything here and tjere was no post that should be censored.
Still not cool, i read everything here and tjere was no post that should be censored.
Mahadev
Member
I recognize most of the mods there, censorship will come and it'll come hard. You guys are deluding yourselves if you think this honeymoon period with last forever. What did you expect them to do, be so stupid that they'll immediately start banning people with the opening of the new site? C'mon.
It... really doesn't matter that the toxicity has "moved." The damage has already been done. If a dev or other personality joins GAF and became subject to toxicity because someone doesn't like some decisions that were made about a game, or if a podcast personality gets crapped on because of their opinions or even something small like the way they talk, rather than receive constructive criticism about their work, they just receive the toxicity and have a terrible first impression of GAF.
Someone mentioned earlier how Giant Bomb personalities on the latest Bombcast felt slighted by certain GAF members attitude towards them in the past. Even Jeff Cannata on his show DLC this week mentioned certain posters' attitudes drove him away from GAF years ago or something along those lines.
The Discords are well aware of the censorship and post deletion happening even before RE was officially launched. But that's just a feeble attempt by EL to stem the bleeding, most likely.
So what's your point? You suspect there'll be mad censorship later for absolutely no reason?
You suspect that we all secretly really want to talk about NeoGAF over there while the entire NeoGAF community has simply moved over and become the ResetEra community?
Your concerns are duly noted. The community, meanwhile, has moved on.
And honestly, there's really no reason for you to entrench yourself like this clinging to something that is a shell of it's former self.
Mahadev
Member
Free ads to a rival site are being deleted? Shocking.
They deleted a developerÂ’s post that did not mention the other forum. SpacePirate RidleyÂ’s post did not reference another forum and was a detailed post about developer interaction with forums.
Good thing Amir0x canÂ’t access GAF from jail.
What about the posts from the first page mentioning verified proper nouns who have migrated?
Iced Arcade
Member
Damn ice cold!
It does matter if the people that left Gaf and now join a new forum, are greeted with a similar scenario.
As I said though itÂ’s going to depend on how the site is run. YouÂ’re always going to get different opinions, but itÂ’s how those opinions are dealt with.
Some forums allow certain opinions regardless of how offensive they may be, and other forums moderate them more to create a more pleasant atmosphere.
The last thing the creators of the new forum want is a “same shit different toilet” scenario...
Krappadizzle
Member
CharminUltra
Member
DAAAAAAAAMN
I must be hallucinating because I can still see both of his posts on this thread lol
The original and the second post where he copy and pasted his original post in italics (post #85)
Mahadev
Member
You mean that's not advertisement? The whole fucking thread is a giant advertisement here. If I'm getting sick of these obnoxious cheap tactics I wonder what the mods must think.
Krappadizzle
Member
Did you not see the og dev post that DID mention the other forum before it was edited for the second repost?
Cheap tactics? So talking about what is happening and the truth of where people are going is "cheap tactics"?
Mod(s)?
I wonder that myself. They could ban even more members but that wouldn't help much seeing as the front page of GAF is already slow as molasses and the communities are completely extinct.
For all your guy's talk of 'we just want to talk about games', you sure aren't actually doing much of it and it shows.
They literally banned all political and social discussion here.
And you're arguing with people over another whether or not another website censors a specific topic maybe in the future.
God damn, man.
How is saying the names of journalists that left this site an advertisement for another site when it's literally a direct answer to the question in the title of this thread
Haha "It hasn't happened yet but I'm sure it will!" and this is rich considering GAF is even more restrictive now than it was before with even more nebulous moderation.
Yes, toxicity is everywhere, but that's not the point of my original post. I'm strictly talking about the toxicity and negativity that certain devs and other gaming personalities have received in the past here on GAF. It doesn't matter that they received negativity or will receive negativity somewhere else, that's not relevant to my original post and I don't know why you are bringing it up to me. This thread is about whether devs and such will stay or are staying on GAF, I don't care about the state of the rest of the internet's toxicity.
Yeah now people are just being ridiculous. We get it you hate the place you posted on and moved somewhere else that will be in direct conpetition. Why the fuck do you think the owner should just let you keep shouting out the competition unabated?
This, plus the active censorship going on here of linking to that other forum. Which, I should also note, is a historical practice here not directed by ToS.
How deep does the sand go?
Krappadizzle
Member
Because it's a direct answer to the OP? Why keep the thread open at all if the answer that many people are giving is all the same and is now apparently not allowed because it's advertising its "direct conpetition"?
Yeah because the things getting removed from GAF have everything to do with the new forum and not about the owner arbitrarily deleting tons of threads that have nothing to do with the crisis he was facing after shutting down the site and then closing large sections of it.
I didn't intend any insult toward your country. I really love it here, actually, and I really don't want to leave. The weather's nice, the food is amazing, everything's cheap, the women are on average more beautiful than anywhere else I've been, and everyone is pleasant and positive and lies to have a good time.
What I meant by the comment:
- People party really hard in Spain, and this was the biggest party there is.
- People get pretty aggressively physically really fast in Spain (which that girl was with me, getting all up in me hard out of nowhere with ulterior motives just for the stupid 2 euro drink).
Not "LOL DUMB SPANISH BARBARIANS HAHA I AMERICAN" or "LOLOLOL STUPID WOMEN NEED ASS GRABBING." I hope everyone here knows me better than that by now by the policies I set on my website and how I convey myself, but more like, " understand the context of what went down; I wasn't being an asshole, I was just playing fair by the rules she established in that moment. It's Spain; it's ridiculously enormous party where everyone is smashed and going for broke in the midst of people getting gored and ricking death."
Fair enough. I donÂ’t know why IÂ’ve brought it up with you either if you didnÂ’t mention it lol. My excuse is ItÂ’s nearly 4am here so I quoted the wrong person, sorry.
Anyway my post was referencing the underlying tone of this thread being that developers are moving from NeoGAF to the new forum as itÂ’ll be special.
Time will tell what happens there, it’s been a day but if the same posters that made this forum shitty at times are allowed free reign then it’ll just be “same shit, different toilet”
Why shouldnÂ’t people be able to discuss how to find developers on a gaming forum? Like when Dyack and others left, should posts telling others they can find the developers on Twitter should be deleted? If the developer has posts on Twitter or some other site regarding a bug fix or new feature/content, should the posts on that be deleted because the developer didnÂ’t post it on GAF?
Can anyone explain why they left?
I like how people are fear mongering about what ERA is and isn't and the carnage it'll be because draconian moderation and the bad apples and it's like...right there. Go and look and you'll see for yourself.
Easier to just run with false narratives and dramatise things.
Things got heated, bunch of people repeatedly going lazy devs and harping on it. Devs have been posting less in most places. There were still a decent amount of devs left before shit went down, though. Koei had some people I remember and there was Xseed that was pretty active, a few 343 people, etc.
We also had a few from naughty dog and one from another sony dev, IIRC. There are probably more of course, just can't remember off the top of my head.
airmangataosenai
Member
Hippo-Age? Its gone through so many versions since OA I can't keep track anymore but it used to be larger.
This is far and away the most successful GAF offshoot though, I wasnt a believer either but the larger community transitioned almost seemlessly. I dont dpubt moderation will be a concern down the line but it does seem the community has made its decision. This place wont die but it will likely never push the traffic it did before. Still skeptical of the other place but this place still has the same issues anyway as far as I can tell.
bennywhatever
Member
I'll go wherever thomasmahler goes.
Krappadizzle
Member
I swear, if JaseC and Jawmuncher go......
Sorry if I came off a bit harsh. I mean, maybe devs will move to the other board? I donÂ’t know. I donÂ’t think anybody knows for sure. ThereÂ’s been nothing to indicate that as far as I know.
ItÂ’s possible that devs could still stay here. I mean, places like reddit have shitty communities like KiA and yet devs browse and post on reddit all the time in the appropriate communities. But right now, being a part of GAF is a tainted look.
The question is why they were here in the first place
Add to the terms of service that this kind of posts constitute a ban, and start banning people.
No worries at all, the issue with reading text is it can be difficult to know how a post is meant.
Totally agree with your last sentence. In all honesty if things stay as they are on here e.g barely any gaming threads and lots of spam IÂ’ll be off anyway, as IÂ’m sure many others will be.
IÂ’ve found myself reading the Switch reddit more and more as it seemed to be a better source for things Nintendo in recent times.
Polygonal_Sprite
Member
Are you still here with a foot on each side stirring shit?
InaudibleWhispa
Member
Because the owner fucked up, not the community, and the community deserves the courtesy of being able to figure things out among the chaos, not be punished. Under these circumstances if members want to leave for totally rational and reasonable reasons, why not give them the space to organise where to meet up with people they've been talking to for years that they might lose track of? Seeing the rush of people begging for invites to discords and forums in every community thread and getting no response was sad to see, it all had to be done in the shadows because any reference to anything other than GAF (including discord) was swiftly deleted or worse, the user banned. In stark comparison forums like Waypoint and slaent welcomed people in and gave them space to organise invites to the new forum. They willing and actively helped people transition to direct competition because that's what the heart of a community should be about.
Krappadizzle
Member
Well Fuck me, I hope I can get an invite soon as my old email that I originally registered with was back when I was in the military and now only use my Gmail account.
You should be fine with just that
Krappadizzle
Member
Thanks. Hope so.
Tinfoilhatsron
Banned
Already did ban some trolls though. Why would they not immediately ban those?
Seductivpancakes
Member
Don't remember the specifics, but i remember gaming side was pretty brutal to the developers of Skullgirls.