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Anyone else hope Luke never fights with a lightsaber in Ep8/9?
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entremet
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The beautiful thing is, they now know what NOT to do with Luke since Yoda's fight was so wacky.
I'm hoping for something similar to Obi Wan and Anakin's last fight in Episode III, which was way better.
Starsunder
Member
I'm struggling to understand why people think Luke should be some super Jedi.
I mean, he *probably will be*, if only because Lucasfilm knows that's what people expect, and that's how he was in the old EU.
But as far as I can recall in the OT, he never displayed super advanced force abilities.
I mean, he *probably will be*, if only because Lucasfilm knows that's what people expect, and that's how he was in the old EU.
But as far as I can recall in the OT, he never displayed super advanced force abilities.
entremet
Member
He was a novice Jedi in the OT. He never received proper training until he was rather old by Jedi standards and yet was able to go toe to toe with Vader, although Vader sandbagged some. And Palpatine also saw potential him.
Starsunder
Member
Vader sandbagged *a lot*
And seeing potential doesn't equal all powerful Jedi.
I'm just asking the questions. I fully expect him to be some god-Jedi in the movie
these would be great, the former made me picture neo. it would be great to see a moment like that in a star wars film, i'd love it if they really upped the ante on force powers.
i want some lightsaber fights but I'll be fine if luke doesn't participate.
matrix-cat
Member
He's had 30 years to train, study, meditate and whatever else, and he isn't confined by any Prequel era Jedi rules and regulations. And now he's being written and directed by Rian Johnson, too. I basically want to see the equivalent of Looper's time-travel-torture on Paul Dano scene, but with Star Wars.
greycolumbus
The success of others absolutely infuriates me.
It's such a shame the rest of the film couldn't match it. I get it's fanservice but if it was some OC going HAM I still would've loved it. Rogue was just filled with original characters looking bored, acting bored, and being boring.
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
This is clearly the right answer.
Diprosalic
Banned
i agree, if only so we don't have to see an old out of shape Luke in a physical fighting scene.
greycolumbus
The success of others absolutely infuriates me.
They're gonna do some clutch shit with the saber though, I can just feel it. It'd be the film's big crowd erupting moment.
This made my morning. lol
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
Anakin had the greatest Force potential of any being ever, well beyond Palpatine and Yoda, but given that he was basically in a half-dead/half-robot state for half of his life he was never able to come close to actually reaching that potential.
Luke has the same potential as Anakin, and he's been training for three-and-a-half decades, over which period he has researched the oldest Jedi knowledge, communed with multiple Jedi who managed to come back after death and joining the Force, pursued new knowledge, and (from the tiny bit we've learned from the TLJ trailer) appears to be taking an entirely novel approach to understanding the Force in a way the Jedi and Sith never did.
So yeah, Luke is definitely powerful as hell.
I don't imagine Rian Johnson being held back by worries of how the audience may react.
Also, I highly doubt the general audience gives a shit one way or another. It would only going to be a subset of fanboys who would whine about the lack of the green saber, and then they'd go see it 15 times anyway.
Stallion Dan
Member
While I expect this, I also want Luke to pull a Star Destroyer outta of the air and crash it to the ground. With one hand.
WadiumArcadium
Member
Come to think of it, I think there's a good chance of him using it during the extended flashback of his school's destruction. Maybe he'll have cast it aside after that.
Haloid1177
Banned
Would I like to see the lightsaber? Hell yeah, you wanna talk about a hype moment I'm not sure much could ever top that in the franchise. But I just need one scene of Luke kicking ass, even if it's just the Force or whatever. Vader in Rogue One on steroids is what I'm talking about.
If I don't see Luke kicking ass with his green saber, I will riot.
If they kill off Luke without giving us a single scene with his green saber, most of the Star Wars community will riot.
Given how Hamill continuously mentioned during SWC that these films "aren't about" him anymore, I actually expect that his role in this film will be disappointing to most. He'll train Rey, she'll need to leave to save her friends/defeat the First Order/meet up with Finn, and Luke will say something about not wanting to fight again, it's past his time, or he's "getting too old for this", and will elect to stay on the island and will be absent from the last 40% of the film.
If they kill off Luke without giving us a single scene with his green saber, most of the Star Wars community will riot.
Given how Hamill continuously mentioned during SWC that these films "aren't about" him anymore, I actually expect that his role in this film will be disappointing to most. He'll train Rey, she'll need to leave to save her friends/defeat the First Order/meet up with Finn, and Luke will say something about not wanting to fight again, it's past his time, or he's "getting too old for this", and will elect to stay on the island and will be absent from the last 40% of the film.
WadiumArcadium
Member
Hamill did say that, but Kathy Kennedy followed him up by saying Luke's role is very significant in this film.
My man...
greatestjediever
Member
Badlucktroll
Member
Luke is probably gonna go apeshit with the light saber and flip around like Palpatine.
In this new canon, is Luke actually all that powerful? That legend shit doesn't count anymore. Kylo didn't seem to have much trouble breaking off and torching his new academy in front of him. He doesn't seem to be very emotionally strong either (running away into exile...yet leaving a treasure hunt to find him, ha ha.).
So, how strong is Luke exactly now?
So, how strong is Luke exactly now?
WadiumArcadium
Member
We have no idea really. The only post-ROTJ story Luke has been in was Shattered Empire and that took place shortly after the film finished.
Snoke being afraid of him in TFA is the best hint that his powers have grown. Then again, we don't know how powerful Snoke is yet.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Maaaan, this would be so visually awesome, with such an easy to digest message. But they won't do it because Kylo likely has the crystal.
There's always the Darksaber possibility.it won't happen, but hey, I like black lightsabers
Really though, it'd be cool if he used his green one, or created a new blue one while he was with the new Jedi Order.
I actually think it'd be cool if Luke used Darth's Red Lightsaber, showing hes not following the Jedi tradition and paying homage to his father.
Though I always suspected Kylo's saber was using Vader's cracked crystal, thus the unstable edge it had.
And even if he didn't people would bitch too much about Luke using red. (But it would fall in line with reports of how Mark Hamill was upset with some of his characterization)
There's always the Darksaber possibility.it won't happen, but hey, I like black lightsabers
Really though, it'd be cool if he used his green one, or created a new blue one while he was with the new Jedi Order.
I actually think it'd be cool if Luke used Darth's Red Lightsaber, showing hes not following the Jedi tradition and paying homage to his father.
Though I always suspected Kylo's saber was using Vader's cracked crystal, thus the unstable edge it had.
I'm pretty sure Vader's lightsaber is gone. It fell down the same shaft the Emperor did.
WadiumArcadium
Member
There's a group of dark side fanatics in the Aftermath books called the Acolytes of the Beyond that buy what they think is Vader's lightsaber. Whether it actually is or not is another question.
brotherbean
Member
As a kid I always thought the coolest thing about The Emperor in ROTJ was his sort of sarcasm toward Luke for relying on his lightsaber, since he obviously didn't need one to defend himself from Luke, even without Vader's intervention. Really disappointed me the way he used one in ROTS.
I do want to see Luke fire up the green lightsaber for nostalgia's sake, but I'm going to be really bummed out if his skill is portrayed by jumping and twirling around like Yoda and Palpatine. That really sucked.
I do want to see Luke fire up the green lightsaber for nostalgia's sake, but I'm going to be really bummed out if his skill is portrayed by jumping and twirling around like Yoda and Palpatine. That really sucked.
Well shit. Now I at least want to see Luke get his X-Wing back.
Strange. You would think Luke kept that. Or destroyed it altogether. If he didn't take it, then surely it got lit with the Death Star 2.0.
The fanboy in me wanted to see Luke light that green saber in the teaser trailer. However, story wise it probably makes more sense that Luke has evolved beyond lightsabers, similar to the Emperor in ROTJ.
I hope we have a compromise that we see him briefly use one in the flashback to the temple burning down scene.
I hope we have a compromise that we see him briefly use one in the flashback to the temple burning down scene.
wouldn't he then ignite his fathers saber and his green one to show that he belives there is no side. Then just wield the blades with the force
Yautja_Warrior
Member
Luke should go into battle with Ray against Kylo and the Knights of Ren + New Order and when it looks like they might be out matched, Luke should remove his Jedi robes and reveal his secret weapon.
And the proceed to punch Kylo, The Knights of Ren and New Order right in the cock, with his mighty fist.
Seriously though, Luke needs to fight, we need some of that green lightsaber greatness.
And the proceed to punch Kylo, The Knights of Ren and New Order right in the cock, with his mighty fist.
Seriously though, Luke needs to fight, we need some of that green lightsaber greatness.
