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Anyone else not really stoked on Skyward Sword?
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Some of the opinions people have made in this thread make my brain hurt. It uses the Motion+ to give accurate readings for use in the gameplay with revamped combat, and puzzle design. Also, you do not need to do full swings of the remote in order for M+ to recognize it.
People in this thread belittling the game due to it being the same as previous Zelda games should maybe do a little research. How about you try the game first once it releases before spouting criticisms. Based on what I've heard and seen so far, it's a major shake up to the formula.
And, if you just want to come in and groan about how Zelda as a series sucks, you probably shouldn't bother to post in this thread.
People in this thread belittling the game due to it being the same as previous Zelda games should maybe do a little research. How about you try the game first once it releases before spouting criticisms. Based on what I've heard and seen so far, it's a major shake up to the formula.
And, if you just want to come in and groan about how Zelda as a series sucks, you probably shouldn't bother to post in this thread.
Nostalgic Nightmare
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I'm not going to lie, while I will still get this day 1, I really am not that hyped, and I'm dreading digging out the Wiimote.
As someone who has been playing the series since it launched on the NES, I think part of it is my age. Games in general have to take a backseat to life as you get more responsibilities.
Most all of the footage shows link running around with a fully-tourqued,erect sword, and his movements look horribly unnatural. I feel like the Wiimote has it's place in many games on the console, but in the end it really does seem like a gimmick, especially in Zelda. I don't want the next console to rely on a gimmick. Some might say that it pioneered the way we play games, and the way games are headed, but I'm not a fan of it, and I will be hesitant before buying a console from them day 1 in the future.
As someone who has been playing the series since it launched on the NES, I think part of it is my age. Games in general have to take a backseat to life as you get more responsibilities.
Most all of the footage shows link running around with a fully-tourqued,erect sword, and his movements look horribly unnatural. I feel like the Wiimote has it's place in many games on the console, but in the end it really does seem like a gimmick, especially in Zelda. I don't want the next console to rely on a gimmick. Some might say that it pioneered the way we play games, and the way games are headed, but I'm not a fan of it, and I will be hesitant before buying a console from them day 1 in the future.
AceBandage
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MYE said:
There is no elaboration.
Just pure ignorant trolling.
MadOdorMachine
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Luckily the Wii U has traditional controls, plus we just got the OoT remake and Darksiders is a pleasant surprise, so at least there is some type of Zelda fix available. I think motion controls are the future, but they really need head tracking or a holodeck/360 display surrounding you to be truly immersible. I think it's best suited for VR type games. Unfortunately, we aren't there yet.Nostalgic Nightmare said:
WiiU's interface is so exciting to me. There's a good chance Zelda HD will support the Classic Pro I imagine. That'd be awesome.MadOdorMachine said:
EDIT: Thinking about it, presumably every game must have the touch screen as optional as you can remote play and only have the 'main' screen to view.
The Antitype
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Dice said:
Ok, only there was nothing remotely similar to Jersey Shore or the X-Games in the majority of comics in the 90s. Not even Image comics. The criticism about 90s comics was that they focused on incredibly stylish art and graphic violence, with some sexual themes thrown in there for fun. Writing quality, character depth and the like took a back seat.
But even the biggest detractors of the direction comics took in the 90s were smart enough to realize 'damn this is some fucking AWESOME artwork'. They just wished that it had some great writing to go along with it.
Honestly, if that's the definitely of dude-bro, then Quinten Tarantino movies are dudebro.
It's just a stupid phase used by idiots to say 'people who like different things than me... especially popular things'
AceBandage
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StuBurns said:
Not EVERY game. There will be games that need the WiiU screen (like the Rhythm Heaven clone game).
But a majority of single player games will probably have a standard controller design.
MushroomSamba
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Keyouta said:
I haven't used motionplus myself, but there does seem to be a quite a bit of flailing in the footage I've seen so far. Here's just one of the many examples you can find on youtube: http://youtu.be/gkdYa0PdxVk?t=4m54s
From my own personal experiences with Twilight Princess, I felt the waggle mechanic was really annoying and I would've much rather preferred simply pressing a button. I understand that SS wants to emphasize combat, but that's not why I want to play Zelda games though. I don't want to spend a minute matching vertical or horizontal slices...it just seems like a stupid minigame gimmick to me.
That's my own personal taste though. I can understand if others enjoy that kind of stuff, but it's not what I myself look for in Zelda games. The more I see of this game, the less fun it actually looks.
AceBandage
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MushroomSamba said:
This isn't flailing...
That is Link doing exactly what you are doing.
RurouniZel
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The Antitype said:
I disagree. "Dudebro" is meant to refer to a style of game whereby you play a "Dude" who just kicks ass and shoots/blows up everything on screen, often with one or more "Bros" in tow. These tend to be the most popular style of games in the US right now, thus it tends to be associated with popular games of this type.
To me, it's not much different from people who hate JRPGs referring to them as "Animu" games.
Caelus said:
I've only played a short demo at Gamescom.
To me it kinda felt how Mario Galaxy uses it and I think Mario Galaxy uses it perfectly.
It's not to much, not to few, you use a couple of twitches with the controller for some moves(which makes things like spins a little easier) and your slices will slice into the direction you sliced your controller.
The exhausting system sucks hard though.
You cant roll any more, you'll with A instead. Once you're dashing a small timer appears next to Link and when it runs out you'll walk slowly for short time.
The lame part is that the exhaust (you'll walk slow) also happens when you're spamming sword attacks, I really hope this gets removed.
MushroomSamba
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AceBandage said:
How does that change the fact that the player is still flailing? If I'm jumping up and down to make my character do the same, wouldn't that still be jumping?
AceBandage
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MushroomSamba said:
Flailing is doing random motions to get random results.
This is 1:1 motions to get a 1:1 response.
XANDER CAGE
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RurouniZel said:
I've only ever really seen "animu" used endearingly. "Dudebro" seems to be a flippant remark specifically designed to disarm any kind of discussion about popular games.
RurouniZel
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BigJiantRobut said:
Really? Usually when I see the term "animu" it's anything but endearing. Especially if it's a debate between W and J RPGs.
XANDER CAGE
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RurouniZel said:
I use it endearingly all the time, I dunno. I love my animu bullshit.
"Dudebro" seems to just write off several styles of gameplay and audience as a whole, IMO. Animu just describes an art style.
MushroomSamba
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AceBandage said:
Fine, then let's pretend I said "thrashing about to achieve a 1:1 response" then. The point is I don't want to move my arm around like that. It looks tedious and would probably annoy me after a 30-minute gaming session.
The Antitype
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RurouniZel said:
Ok, but we've just heard how 'dudebro' has been used to describe everything from movies to comics, to general art-direction.
I've never heard 'animu' used, sounds equally stupid. But at least by your description it seems specific to a particular subject.
Dudebro is thrown around the same way 'gay' is - a catch-all insult for insecure fuckwits to throw around to feel better about themselves and their tastes.
AceBandage
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MushroomSamba said:
You aren't doing it every single second of that 30 minutes, and it's not like you have to move any more than a normal person does anyway...
Anasui Kishibe
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Boney said:
follow the man, back to square one. Thread most definitely needs it
MushroomSamba
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AceBandage said:
You'll be doing it a decent chunk of that 30-minutes. I don't want to do that at all. It simply does not look fun.
AceBandage
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MushroomSamba said:
Neither does sitting there mashing a button...
MushroomSamba
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AceBandage said:
I guess you haven't enjoyed games until the Wii then. And like I said in my original post, I get that people like doing this motion stuff. I don't. I like pressing buttons and not having to move my arms about like that.
R_thanatos
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just went back from reading the last 5 pages .. i'm stunned some people complain but they don't even know what they want .. and some are complaining about the lack of HD or the fact that it's montion controlled . There are plenty of motion controlled games , first and second the wii not being HD doesn't make the game or the gameplay any less fun , what's More this HD problem can go away if you have a proper setup , and some games , while not being HD are still at the top of their "game genres" ( mario galaxy , oboro muramasa , xenoblade , to quote only a few ).
Really i'm stunned ..
And no zelda(s) aren't the same thing .. the difference between OoT and majora mask was obvious , so was the change toward wind waker ..and then again , the structural changes between wind waker & phantom hourglass or spirit tracks are obvious to even people who haven't played it . this one is ( YET AGAIN ) changing lot of things about the formula yet i see complains ...
I'll be back tomorrow and i'm sure i'll see a " LINK doesn't talk , this is so behing the times .So i won't buy this game. " and at this point i'll would have seen everything for the comments about this game.
Really i'm stunned ..
And no zelda(s) aren't the same thing .. the difference between OoT and majora mask was obvious , so was the change toward wind waker ..and then again , the structural changes between wind waker & phantom hourglass or spirit tracks are obvious to even people who haven't played it . this one is ( YET AGAIN ) changing lot of things about the formula yet i see complains ...
I'll be back tomorrow and i'm sure i'll see a " LINK doesn't talk , this is so behing the times .So i won't buy this game. " and at this point i'll would have seen everything for the comments about this game.
AceBandage
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MushroomSamba said:
I didn't say I didn't like gaming.
I said that watching people sit and press buttons doesn't look fun, just like you said watching someone "flail about" doesn't look fun.
The actual playing of the game is what makes it fun in either case.
RurouniZel
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The Antitype said:
Point taken.
Hobbestetrician
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So this thread is still going, huh? *sigh*
Anasui Kishibe
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R_thanatos said:
you've just met the zelda fanbase. Now you're ten times stronger
MushroomSamba
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AceBandage said:
It could be that flailing around is fun in Skyward Sword. Could be that it sucks. Without actually playing it, all we can work off of is what we see. This thread is asking if anyone else is not really stoked about SS, so I'm giving my reasons why I'm tentative. I don't enjoy motion controls, and I gave Twilight Princess the benefit of the doubt and it ended up disappointing me. Skyward Sword looks to do more of the same.
AceBandage
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MushroomSamba said:
It really doesn't.
TP's controls are like playing Pong with a Track Ball.
SS is like playing Team Fortress 2 with a keyboard and mouse.