I highly doubt beta progress will carry over. It would be a huge disadvantage to those who did not play the beta and Bungie would want people on equal footing at release.
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I highly doubt beta progress will carry over. It would be a huge disadvantage to those who did not play the beta and Bungie would want people on equal footing at release.
Was not interested before the beta. Now somewhat interested, but will definitely not drop $60 for it. The SP felt like a series of repetitive, grinding missions to me, with a central town to restock. The MP is really solid, but I don't see myself playing it for more than 2-3 weeks. Will probably pick it up at ~$30.
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Vilix
Unconfirmed Member
You know, in other threads this may be right. But in this case not really.
Sandy Nipples
Banned
It's a micro MMO. It's pretty obvious that most of the mechanics and features are straight up generic MMO ones.
doughEATER
Member
I loved the alpha, beta........not so much. Dropped it after a couple "story" missions. There was no cutscenes and very few dialogues in alpha and i think i prefer it this way lol. That was too "epic" and "pegi 13" for me. Plus i had enough of Old Russia after alpha, i don't think i will be able to handle it again. I hope final version will have some interesting missions, not like "we forgot some junk on the planet we just left, lets get back and shoot some space scum patroling scrap metal again".
HueyFreeman
Banned
Protip: this is not a great way to start a post. People take a lot of time to create these threads, and it's way better to get some discussion started vs. Inflammatory title + "What say you, GAF?"
Back on topic, I have not played the beta, specifically because I'm getting the game. I know I'm strange - but I want to go in to the finished product. I'm sure I'll enjoy it, but your thoughts do worry me a bit, OP - I don't play MMOs because I have no interest in them, and was hoping Destiny cater more to my conventional gaming tastes.
Imru al-Qays
Banned
Preordered the Destiny PS4 bundle for the white PS4. Availed myself of my beta access. Pretty sure I'm going to sell my copy of Destiny. I don't like FPSes, and Destiny isn't RPG enough to outweigh that.
OneEyeTwoHead
Banned
Personally, I'm going to wait a bit.
The missions were OK, but those side beacon missions and shit were just down-right horrendous.
The missions were OK, but those side beacon missions and shit were just down-right horrendous.
I tried the alpha and the beta, wasn't really a fan. The story missions didn't seem that great in comparison to any other FPS and the mode where you wander around a big open area felt way too MMO-y for my tastes. Go here and kill this many guys, go there and collect that many items. No thanks.
alice_kiss_lara
Banned
i might get it at a bargain price, the campaign is quite good
not really into the multiplayer though, just feel like a re-skin of Halo games
not really into the multiplayer though, just feel like a re-skin of Halo games
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Actually read the entire thing and I think you're missing the point a bit. Why assume that anybody that likes what Destiny is somehow didn't play MMOs on a PC before? That literally makes no sense at all. Your whole argument boils down to it's go on a mission, fight and kill mobs, get loot, go to new location fight and kill mobs, get loot. I would expect that a first person shooter with MMO elements is largely focused around getting missions, fighting mobs of enemies on your way to your destination, as well as any enemies associated with the mission once you reach your final destination, and then finally collecting some kind of loot once its all over.
Now I totally understand the singleplayer story criticism, but this isn't even like your traditional MMO in the first place. It looks to have some pretty cool elements and creative touches that you would expect to see in a singleplayer title. There's story events, there's cutscenes with voice acting. The fact that it has similarities to MMOs and is expected to have a fairly straightforward mission structure like in most games of that type, that in no way suggests that experiencing these things in Destiny will somehow be exactly like it is in other similar games or in some of the MMOs that it might draw inspiration from. This reminds me almost exactly of the kinds of false categorizations that are often made about a variety of games simply because they share some similar elements. It's as if the unique experience, world design and gameplay that each game might have to offer doesn't mean anything at all, and that's literally the worst way possible to judge games.
It's obviously okay that you aren't particularly excited by what you played, and have thus drawn your own conclusions about the game as a whole, but I think the way you've chosen to characterize the game is pretty flawed, especially when you've experienced so very little. It may not end up being a big singleplayer epic type of story, but there's a story there, one with specific characters, voice acting (even from your character), cutscenes, I assume varying degrees of story based events that have cool looking things happening or showing up in the world, which I think further adds to the experience. Also, unlike most MMOs, at least that I've played, you have an AI counterpart that is constantly with you and providing a story for the missions you're undertaking. Just the ghost alone already makes it different from many MMOs. It's such a big factor in fact that I wouldn't be interested in picking up the game if the ghost that constantly spoke to the player wasn't in, because then it really would seem boring MMO.
Loved the demo, but with Evolve and that Battlefield 4 expansion releasing around the same time, I'm not sure yet. I can't see myself seriously playing more than one online shooter at a time.
Edit: also, I can't believe people keep comparing this to MMO's. It's more Phantasy Star Online meets Journey in its online infrastructure.
Edit: also, I can't believe people keep comparing this to MMO's. It's more Phantasy Star Online meets Journey in its online infrastructure.
Some Nobody
Junior Member
This is a terrible post. Yes, someone doesn't like the game. It happens, get over it. At least it's not another silly "I think I'm just not into AAA games anymore" post. He makes some good points.
Nah, thread title should stay the same. It's really descriptive and stands out from other Destiny threads.
That's exactly my feelings on that picture. I LOVE it when there's needless vitriol, or someone just says they hate something without any reasoning, but this time? Ew.
This is how I feel as well. I have a post on this elsewhere, but to get to the point: I expected more from the beta. The whole persistent world/huge galaxy to explore/ten year plan thing made me think this would have a fuckton of content, not entirely unlike an MMO.
The First Look Alpha took me from being unsure about the game as a person who hates FPS', to someone who was super hyped for the beta. When I saw the beta didn't have all that much more content than the alpha, I realized it wasn't worth a $60 buy. I'll pick it up sometime after launch when it's cheaper and we have a better idea of the kind of plans they have in the sense of expanding the world.
I pre-ordered through PSN but, yeah, I was really disappointed the more I played the beta. The lack of story, the seeming intention that the missions are just replayable grinds that unlock a new mission but always remain frozen in time as they are. The DPS experience of spending minutes pouring attacks on bosses.. it's all so very generic MMO in structure.
Borderlands at least had multiple towns, individual villains that you fought against throughout the game, the mechanics of actually exploring to find the next challenges, NPCs that you get to talk to that are spread throughout the world.. just much more interesting stuff around. In Destiny.. not so much. All the characters in the Tower barely talk at all, and seeing a bunch of players all crowded around, simultaneously interacting with the NPC.. that's not a character, that's an ATM.
So.. kind of meh. Never having had an XBox (though I've played a few hours of Halo on a friend's), it's great getting to have that Bungie feel on a console I own. The graphics are great. But I think I'm with the OP.. unless there's a lot of stuff that wasn't even hinted at in the beta, I think Destiny is going to be disappointing.
Borderlands at least had multiple towns, individual villains that you fought against throughout the game, the mechanics of actually exploring to find the next challenges, NPCs that you get to talk to that are spread throughout the world.. just much more interesting stuff around. In Destiny.. not so much. All the characters in the Tower barely talk at all, and seeing a bunch of players all crowded around, simultaneously interacting with the NPC.. that's not a character, that's an ATM.
So.. kind of meh. Never having had an XBox (though I've played a few hours of Halo on a friend's), it's great getting to have that Bungie feel on a console I own. The graphics are great. But I think I'm with the OP.. unless there's a lot of stuff that wasn't even hinted at in the beta, I think Destiny is going to be disappointing.
The bolded part is exactly what had me cooling down on the prospect. I did expect Destiny, when Bungie first started talking about it, to pretty much offer the stuff Borderlands had/did but (hopefully) even better/more cinematic. Stuff like missions being replayable totally take me out of the feeling you're progressing in the story and changing the world.
I wan't a solid campaign, in the vain of Halo. I loved the beta for what it was, and I know that Destiny will be a massive hit. However I got bored of the mechanic (shooting/loot/gear/respawing enemies) after a while, and couldn't see myself doing this for the majority of the game.
This is one of the few games I preordered. I will be cancelling it and waiting for reviews.
This is one of the few games I preordered. I will be cancelling it and waiting for reviews.
Like pretty much 90% of games like this, I almost certainly won't. It's always the same with ARPG/MMO-ish games for me, I play through the public beta and have some fun but come the actual release I don't give a shit. Too much better stuff out there to play and I've had my fill of the loot chase/leveling up by the time it ends. Maybe on sale, when their DLC scheduled is done and I don't have to worry about it burning a hole in my wallet.
disastermouse
Banned
I'm not the droid OP is looking for - I'm totally psyched for Destiny.
Is there any chance that certain missing features will be addressed with updates? Maybe new areas on each planet or additions to the weapons roster that include different TYPES of weapons or even class specific Legendary weapons. I think it'd be great if each class had a class-specific weapon. There's already class-specific armor and whatnot.
Is there any chance that certain missing features will be addressed with updates? Maybe new areas on each planet or additions to the weapons roster that include different TYPES of weapons or even class specific Legendary weapons. I think it'd be great if each class had a class-specific weapon. There's already class-specific armor and whatnot.
Ignore the people who boast about not reading your post, OP. I don't agree but I can completely understand why you feel the way you do because you explained it coherently.
As for me, I don't have much experience of MMO s so it is all quite a novelty to me. I also love the story concept. I think I've mentioned before that the game -to me, at least - feels great to play.
I wonder if there is a correlation between MMO players being fairly unimpressed by Destiny.
As for me, I don't have much experience of MMO s so it is all quite a novelty to me. I also love the story concept. I think I've mentioned before that the game -to me, at least - feels great to play.
I wonder if there is a correlation between MMO players being fairly unimpressed by Destiny.
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
I probably won't. Not because of the fact the beta wasn't good nor the fact the games scope is apparently smaller than anticipated. Just the fact I know I won't have people to play with on a regular basis.
Game seems perfect when you have others and my friends don't seem to have the will to get this.
Game seems perfect when you have others and my friends don't seem to have the will to get this.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
The absolute opposite for me. I wasn't really interested in a "Halo by Any Other Name" but when the Beta came round I thought I'd give it a go. It got me good.
I haven't played any kind of straight FPS for years now and this one seemed really well put together. The seamless online aspects also really appeal to me and my cadre of friends.
I haven't played any kind of straight FPS for years now and this one seemed really well put together. The seamless online aspects also really appeal to me and my cadre of friends.
Played the beta but I simply found the game boring. Boring missions, boring level design, boring PvP, boring interactions with other people. I tried the moon level as well when it was avalible, and it was slightly less boring than earth, but still pretty damn boring. Same enemies everywhere, and every mission feels the same.
The music is AMAZING though, so I'll probably buy the soundtrack instead.
The music is AMAZING though, so I'll probably buy the soundtrack instead.
Baleoce
Member
Was kind of middle of the road for me personally. I don't think I'll pick it up at launch, I'm going to give it some time to see what kind of direction development goes in, and get a better idea of what kind of game Bungie wants it to be in the long run. If the launch and first story arc goes well and generates a lot of buzz, I'll consider picking it up around the first expansion mark. I will echo what Anilusion above me said though, the music is fantastic. I will definitely get the OST.
TatteredHat
Member
After the reveal of 1 area per planet my hype has certainly been dampened. I'll probably pick it up eventually but I'm not sure that it'll be a day 1 purchase, I have a feeling that the game's going to be a DLC-fest.
Played the Alpha and Beta a lot and enjoyed them massively. I liked the core mechanics and I can see where they are going for the full release, and I like what I see. That said, I also have some issues. The weapon balance in both PVP and PVE needs some work, as Auto Rifles were massively dominant in the slice of the game we played. I also think the loot system needs some work ( give bosses guaranteed drops, have opening chests be more exciting, put light beacons over loot drops ), but overall, the pros vastly outweigh the cons for me.
If it is not your thing, that's understandable and I can definitely see that Destiny just isn't for everyone. I do think however, that some people have gone in with the wrong expectations. This isn't an MMO, so I don't think the comparisons the WOW are that relevant. This is an MOFPSRPG, not an MMORPG. Additionally, I think some people are getting a bit hung up on the 'grind' in the Beta after hitting level 8, as that is not representative of the final game but rather the consequence of only being able to access a limited amount of content in the Beta.
But of course, there are legitimate complaints and concerns and if Destiny just isn't working for you or just isn't your thing, that's completely fine.
If it is not your thing, that's understandable and I can definitely see that Destiny just isn't for everyone. I do think however, that some people have gone in with the wrong expectations. This isn't an MMO, so I don't think the comparisons the WOW are that relevant. This is an MOFPSRPG, not an MMORPG. Additionally, I think some people are getting a bit hung up on the 'grind' in the Beta after hitting level 8, as that is not representative of the final game but rather the consequence of only being able to access a limited amount of content in the Beta.
But of course, there are legitimate complaints and concerns and if Destiny just isn't working for you or just isn't your thing, that's completely fine.
Actually, I think it will be like that and that they cut a lot of cutscenes in order not to spoil too much in the beta (and keep the download size small)
I mean, they have Nathan Fillion, Gina Torres, Peter Stormare doing voice over work. I honestly doubt all they're gonna have to say is just the 2-3 lines we heard them say in the beta. I expect at least a lot more exposition from those as respectively the Hunter guildmaster, Warlock guildmaster and Lost Orbit faction leader throughout the story mode.
The replayability is basically like Borderlands to get the epic and legendary lewt.
I choose to believe the beta was simply scratching the surface, giving us a feel for the combat and world, not really representative for what you can expect in the full game. Basically we've seen a barebone tutorial, imho.
To answer the OP: yes, I have the game on pre-order and am willing to give it the benefit of the doubt. If nothing else, it will surely give me 40+ hours of playtime.
OP makes a lot of sense, and I agree with a lot of those points, especially the mission structure/objective similarities and repetitiveness.
But game is day one for me regardless. Shit plays silky smooth and I love what's being offered. The art design, weapon handling, the UI, the balanced PvP, the speed at which the game plays and the music... All is top notch and a lot of fun imo.
The cons are much outweighed by the pros for me to really care about 'em that much. So basically...
But game is day one for me regardless. Shit plays silky smooth and I love what's being offered. The art design, weapon handling, the UI, the balanced PvP, the speed at which the game plays and the music... All is top notch and a lot of fun imo.
The cons are much outweighed by the pros for me to really care about 'em that much. So basically...
Peanut Butter
Member
I played it, thought it was okay, and I'm 95% sure I won't get it at launch. The PvE is kind of boring, and I don't see myself playing the lackluster PvP over Advanced Warfare, Evolve, or the Master Chief Collection.
I played alpha and beta on ps4, content was waaaay to little for $60, and $40 DLC already announced...together with the "only one area per planet" thing, it seems very fishy (and it's activision...)
However, I preordered the White PS4 (which includes Destiny) and I'm not a friend of selling games, so I might give it a try.
the enemies are also recycled way too often... If I remember correctly, there are 6-7 enemie types (captain, which, underling, akolyte, zombie-runner-thing, veteran). with higher level they either get a yellow HP bar or another name, if they are boss monsters, they get both. same thing for the moon (and the very big cave on the moon, only new monster is the oger + elite oger)
However, I preordered the White PS4 (which includes Destiny) and I'm not a friend of selling games, so I might give it a try.
the enemies are also recycled way too often... If I remember correctly, there are 6-7 enemie types (captain, which, underling, akolyte, zombie-runner-thing, veteran). with higher level they either get a yellow HP bar or another name, if they are boss monsters, they get both. same thing for the moon (and the very big cave on the moon, only new monster is the oger + elite oger)
I can understand that you didn't like what you played in the beta and have no intention to buy the game at day one or at all.
For me, I enjoyed playing the Alpha and the Beta massively, and the game is day one for me. Destiny is not for everyone and that's fine. There are things need to be worked on or needing improvement and whatnot, but overall, the pros outweighed the cons as far as I'm concerned and I'm pretty much satisfied with it.
For me, I enjoyed playing the Alpha and the Beta massively, and the game is day one for me. Destiny is not for everyone and that's fine. There are things need to be worked on or needing improvement and whatnot, but overall, the pros outweighed the cons as far as I'm concerned and I'm pretty much satisfied with it.
michaelius
Banned
Completly oposite - I was not getting it but tried beta and now have preorder ready 
It has certain charm and I'm sucker for well made sci-fi setting so I want to at least do story part.
It has certain charm and I'm sucker for well made sci-fi setting so I want to at least do story part.
disastermouse
Banned
Wait, Nathon Fillion and Gina Torres did voice work in the Beta? Can you point out which NPCs they voiced?
Candescence
Member
Huh, so I wasn't crazy for thinking that everything I've been hearing about this game screams "PSO2 as a western FPS game" after all. Hell, even that game has a TPS camera/control mode.
Nathan Fillion is voicing Exo Hunter Vanguard and Gina Torres is voicing Human Warlock Vanguard
