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Anyone remember X-Men Evolution?
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DaSorcerer7
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Wat? It wasnt so bad. Lol They could have at least given us the last episode of the season.
I love this show.
That's actually a reference to Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
This has context. I swear.
That's actually a reference to Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
Frostinferno
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Yes, and yes. Both were badly cast.
DaSorcerer7
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Seems all the good ones do. :/
You'd be correct.
If Spidey wasn't fighting all these lame-ass 90's comic reject animal characters, maybe.
BassForever
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Great show, would love to own it on blu ray
tkscz
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I disagree with this so hard. Evolution was such a boring show in my opinion. None of the characterization from the 90's X-men was there. It was a high school drama for the most part and felt rushed at times. Like the relationship between Night Crawler, Rouge and Mystique felt passed by in Evolution. They gave it at least one episode and Mystique was frozen in stone for it. Then when she comes back, both NC and Rouge just blow her off. The 90's X-men series put so much more emotion into it. NC really wanted to forgive Mystique for everything she did, even abandoning him. Mystique ends up looking like she sacrificed herself to save him. And there were plenty of episodes with Mystique and Rouge, and Rouge would continue to call Mystique momma throughout the series, making it more believable when Rouge would cry over Mystique. In Evolution, she just breaks Mustique's statue, actually killing her, and then, nothing. NC wasn't even mad at her or never really brought it back up. Just, nothing.
And that's just the tip of the ice burg with this show. Little background on Wolverine besides Weapon X and X-23. No background for Storm, Jean, Cyclops, Xavier, Magneto, and so many other characters. Far too many 2nd stringer mutants (they were in it, but nothing was really given about them, and some were straight removed from the series). Too much focus on bullshit high school drama. I don't mind it, but when you look at what they are responsible for doing, that high school bullshit makes no sense. This show wasn't awful, but compared to 90's X-men and Wolverine and the X-men, it wasn't all that good.
No. Does 90's X-men have weird lines, out of place puns, and odd moments? Yes, but so does evolution (above gif that is a Buffy reference, All of Night Crawler and Spike, and so much more), but over all, 90's was way far better written.
GOAT Spidey design.
My men.
Hellwarden
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I've never watched Buffy, but that does make sense.
Absolutely 100%, and if you watch it now it's aged far better than the intensely clunky 90s one. The 90s version ruled at the time, I loved it....but going back to rewatch it just doesn't work. X-Men Evo I can happily rewatch even now!
This has context. I swear.
I'm fine with the lack of context. I liked the Kitty/Rogue of Evo.
What? Chicks dig the fuzzy dude!
I still uses one of his lines in reference to...well...whenever it's necessary, and that being him referring teleporting out of a moving plane.... "Bumpity bumpity bumpity SPLAT". It's a good comedic delivery, and I like that the show was never entirely po-faced about itself.
family_guy
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Got cancelled as it was getting good. Gambit, Apocalypse, hints at Dark Phoenix.
Hellwarden
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They basically said the next season was going to cover the Dark Phoenix arc if it had continued.
Great show, didn't have that weird rush to turn Cyclops into a cuckold like other tv shows and movies did
Underrated. Mistress Rat just wanted some Spider D
Underrated. Mistress Rat just wanted some Spider D
redmetal86
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It was pretty nice. Never really cared for Nightcrawler in it. Avalanche's helmet bowl thing looked kinda silly:
Hahahahaha.
True. Some nice cues from the 2099 suit with its own touches.
Remember Electro the Eel?
Hahahahaha.
GOAT Spidey design.
True. Some nice cues from the 2099 suit with its own touches.
Remember Electro the Eel?
Reminds me of Twin Peaks.
Yeah weird homageIt was pretty nice. Never really cared for Nightcrawler in it. Avalanche's helmet bowl thing looked kinda silly:
Hahahahaha.
True. Some nice cues from the 2099 suit with its own touches.
Remember Electro the Eel?
Woah woah woah let's not go too crazy here. Evolution is more like Beast Machines to the 90's X-Men's Beast Wars. Not as much action, more character development, but not a classic. It did have that bitchin' intro music though.
I still say Wolverine and the X-Men was the best X-Men show. It's just too bad it was only given a season. A show where the X-Men were in full control of their powers and acted competently, and it didn't have time to shine. Sad.
Huh, I had no idea. How deep did they go into her backstory originally? It would be pretty dark for a cartoon show
Sir Garbageman
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I hate to ask but this or Wolverine v The X-Men for animated mutant goodness?
Pai Pai Master
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Both, but Wolverine & The X-Men goes nowhere
Where Wolverine was the level-headed leader bringing people together and Gambit Cyclops had to job for him.
Dari Elxix
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Man, I loved this show growing up. Used to watch this, Megaman NT Warrior & Static Shock on Kids WB every Saturday morning.
Spyke was my favorite:
Spyke was my favorite:
BKatastrophe
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RIP Ugly John
that outfit was so damned stupidIt was pretty nice. Never really cared for Nightcrawler in it. Avalanche's helmet bowl thing looked kinda silly:
The truth seriously hurts
Ganzlinger
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I like this. The animation and art reminds me of Young Justice.
This has context. I swear.
X Men Evolution is pretty great. Nightcrawler was my favorite one.
I should watch a few episodes again to see if it's aged well but I watched Beast Wars several months ago and thought it aged well cheesy one liners aside. I remember Evolution a lot more than the 90s X-Men Animated series.
DonasaurusRex
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What a load of shit this is, it was the voice acting that got people hooked on G1 , which still had the better overall story that STILL was the basis of the beastwars story. They were still paying homage to the show and the lore it built. Beastwars was the shit but nothing can fuck with the basic premise and voice actors they assembled for the first show that was basically made for selling toys and had a new episode every weekday. Even as kids we all noticed the difference in quality between the commercial transitions and the show. No one was fooled that's why the movie was so anticipated, and then it finally had better production and everyone just about died. It was disastrous, it was more than anything the reason Beastwars even came out. Hasbro screwed the pooch by undervaluing what they had accomplished in animation alone by finding the right voices for SOOOOO MANY of the transformers. *Rumble bitch*
Beastwars was great when it was future transformers travelling back in time and GASP its during the time the REAL transformers were in the mountain. The turning point of the show is holy SHIT teletran 1. I will say this without hesitation, the beastwars final run through the second season is perhaps the BEST 10 or so final episodes in all of cartoons i've ever seen no argument there, but Megatron built this house they're playing in bottom line.
Once beastwars went back to cybertron and tried to be their own thing they went to shit and died, you guys remember that series , remember? when the superior transformers got a real budget and a long awaited next chapter in the best transformers EVER no nostalgia? Yeah i didnt think so, because the thrill was gone and they can't carry shit. Theres nothing special about being a part of something special , No amazing voice cast for Transformers, and there's no beast wars, or live action movie, ask the Gobots the superior production robots in disguise how their comback tour is going.
Xmen are the same way, evolution had much better production, but in no way approached the level of the first show, with poor everything, even full episodes that were throw away quality in story , art, animation sound EVERYTHING. There are still the episodes that came together and purely captured the xmen and some of their favorite adventures on screen. Even in poverty and failure the original xmen show is more known and favored over the newer shows despite being far cheaper in presentation , and opened the door for a whole slew of other shows. Silver Surfer, Hulk, Iron Man, Avengers (so terrible), Evolution , Spiderman was probably going to happen anyway.
It's not nostalgia , we noticed holy shit certain episodes of the xmen TAS looked really good, or certain sequences and others were shit, and rushed. The difference between Phoenix saga and other episodes was night and day, Xfactor episode vs the Cyclops at the orphanage episode was like HD vs SD. The 90's show had a tone and execution that the other shows didn't capture.
birthday-suit
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Liked it but didn't love it. It was just OK.
Making Wolverine an adult and not cyclops' peer takes away from their frenemyship.
Nightcrawler and Kitty I liked.
Storm was supremely boring here and everyone else except the Ultimate universe.
Making a character African always seems to come with them having no personality and speaking more alien than actual aliens in universe.
Making Wolverine an adult and not cyclops' peer takes away from their frenemyship.
Nightcrawler and Kitty I liked.
Storm was supremely boring here and everyone else except the Ultimate universe.
Making a character African always seems to come with them having no personality and speaking more alien than actual aliens in universe.
Choppasmith
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It's funny reading this because I'm in the middle of watching Beast Wars right now (just have the last three episodes of the series to watch) but that's a really good comparison and it's how I feel about Evolution. It's well made, but it didn't touch how much of an impact the 90s show made. Plus I kind of liked the more over the top comic book style rather than the grounded approach that took after the Singer movies.
Off-topic a bit, I was going to watch Transformers Prime on Netflix after I'm done with Beast Wars, but your posts kinda makes me want to check out the original Transformers. Being born in '84, I completely missed the G1 craze and am far more nostalgic for Beast Wars and its voice actors.
In the show, she's a clone of Wolverine created by HYDRA, the show runners Kyle and Yost then went back and made the comic introducing her into Earth 616.
SonicMegaDrive
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I was an X-Men fan but I never did get into that show. I didn't like the fact that everyone was a kid. I wanted my adult mutant superheroes.
Rest
All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
I remember it, the art sucks, the story sucked, the show sucked. Bad show.
Whoo, boy, that's funny.
Whoo, boy, that's funny.
SpiceMelange
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All I remember is that young me had a huge crush on shadow cat
Auron_Kale
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I grew up with watching the 90s X-Men cartoon but by the time X-Men Evolution came around, I found myself actually enjoying it as well. Also, being a Cyclops fan, it was nice to see character development for him since Wolverine was not the sole focus of the show.
Though a bit corny, the characters were the same as I recognized from the 616 Universe but just different enough due to the high school setting. For both Cyclops and Phoenix, it was a fun time to compare them to their 616 versions, particularly since you were comparing 1963 to 2000; both seemed lighter in Evo than in the comics, which I appreciated.
There's something about the show that really caught my attention, particularly since I was watching it concurrently with reading Ultimate X-Men but strangely enough, if asked why I like Evolution, I can't exactly say why.
Though a bit corny, the characters were the same as I recognized from the 616 Universe but just different enough due to the high school setting. For both Cyclops and Phoenix, it was a fun time to compare them to their 616 versions, particularly since you were comparing 1963 to 2000; both seemed lighter in Evo than in the comics, which I appreciated.
There's something about the show that really caught my attention, particularly since I was watching it concurrently with reading Ultimate X-Men but strangely enough, if asked why I like Evolution, I can't exactly say why.
Principate
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You don't make a particularly compelling argument you spend most of the time mentioning how great the VA of OG ignoring BW also had great VA and the plot, which really wasn't all that great within the TV series itself, it was interesting and fairly unique for the time, but you'll rarely hear people raving about or even mentioning individual G1 episodes yet you mention how many great and memorable episodes beast wars had. All in you yu barely even tangibly mentioned why G1 was even better than G1 other than it came out first and thus made significant cultural impact whereas beast wars being a sequel/prequel simply built on that
Anyway didn't like X men evolution, had the movies stink all over it and I didn't particularly care for the story and handling of the character in the first 3 movies.
Do I remember the Best Show Of All Time? Of course I do, OP.
I co-ran a X-Men Evolution fansite with a friend during middle school/high school. We were the top-rated site on the X-Men Evolution fanpage lists, until we were dethroned by a site dedicated to Kitty/Avalance fanfics. I ain't even mad, it's a cute pairing.
I co-ran a X-Men Evolution fansite with a friend during middle school/high school. We were the top-rated site on the X-Men Evolution fanpage lists, until we were dethroned by a site dedicated to Kitty/Avalance fanfics. I ain't even mad, it's a cute pairing.
hydragonwarrior
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Like a few others, I was instantly turned off by more simplistic and youth-y design of the characters vs the detailed look of the X-men TAS (of course referring to when they had the good animators and not the horrible ones). I was so confused by the weak-ass school girl Rogue in Evo.
It turned me off in the same way as how I couldn't even look at Batman Beyond after the detailed style of the Batman TAS series (before Batman TAS mutated into that strange style with a black eyed Joker).
It turned me off in the same way as how I couldn't even look at Batman Beyond after the detailed style of the Batman TAS series (before Batman TAS mutated into that strange style with a black eyed Joker).
Yes, from what I remember it was a great show.
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