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Hari Seldon
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Gary Whitta said:
You know now that I think about it, this would be a cool device for a creative writing. Wake up in the middle of the night with an idea, no need to boot up your laptop, just insta-on and jot your idea down.
If you don't like distractions, there is a cool program for OSX that creates a blank screen called Write Room. There is a free version of this for PC called dark room.
http://www.hogbaysoftware.com/products/writeroom
Gary Whitta
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:lol :lol :lolBurger said:
Ignatz Mouse
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People talking about the initial reaction to the iPhone seem to have forgotten that a lot of those complaints were significant, and fixed pretty quickly. $600, and no Exchange email, and slow.
As far as popularity, everybody needs/has a phone. Not everybody needs/has a tablet.
As far as popularity, everybody needs/has a phone. Not everybody needs/has a tablet.
Good points. I didn't really think about that. People who find the ipad easy to use, but not a regula computer still need a way to sync. I wonder how stand alone this product will be? For example, can you print from it? Can you transfer files without a base computer? It may be easy to use but you still really need a computer to go with it.RobotChant said:
And yes, I always saw the stand ad a necessary thing to be made available. That just goes with the form factor of only having a screen.
Gary Whitta
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Yeah I use WriteRoom a lot because I'm too easily distracted and blanking out all other apps and windows is sometimes what it takes to get me to focus.Hari Seldon said:
MThanded said:
Yet, some get completely offended at the idea that the iPad is a giant iPod Touch. I still say it's lazy industrial and UI design to just upsize everything the way it's been done. It may fit a niche for the terminally computer illiterate, but I have little use for such a thing that I can't do any development work on at home.
CrunchinJelly
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I think I am. Pretty much all I do on my computer is browse the web.sprsk said:
Hell, quite a lot of the time I'm happy just to lay on my sofa browsing the web on my iPhone. I think I could get by quite well with an iPad, whether I choose to or not, however, is another matter.
I think the iPad is closer to the netbook market than Apple would let on, but I could absolutely see netbook people buying an iPad.
Exactly hat I was thinking. It's still just a concept. The thing with the ipad is thaT it's a real product. Somethig apple seldom do is announce anything before it's something you can hold. What if the courier is still a year away? The ipad coul be something very different in a years time.Burger said:
Napoleonthechimp
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Yup.Hari Seldon said:
Hopefully iPhone OS 4.0 solves this issue, but still... it's square! I'll wait for the 16:9 version with a front facing camera.
WTF man I really like the courier design but i would like to see it actually created sooner rather than later. No need to get offended.teiresias said:
Also trust me I am not terminally computer illiterate. If name calling makes you feel better about yourself then go ahead.
Also, I run windows 7 on my desktop at home and my desktop in my office at school... I'm assuming you think I am a Microsoft hater. Far from it.
Gary Whitta
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The computer illiterate is not a niche, that's the mainstream. You are the niche.teiresias said:
Hrm, while I had heard and believed the rumours that it'd be a giant iPhone, i didn't think it would be just that and nothing more though
fake edit: was the thread title made before the specs and info came out, because I can't see any practical use for this for anyone who has a smart phone? (i have an iphone)
fake edit: was the thread title made before the specs and info came out, because I can't see any practical use for this for anyone who has a smart phone? (i have an iphone)
Flying_Phoenix
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Gary Whitta said:
Seriously the people in these threads would be amazed if they knew how computer illiterate the average person is.
I can't tell you how many times when a teacher hooks their computer up to a projector in class or when I'm walking around office cubicles that I see an endless supply of unorganized folders and documents.
And no this isn't a "gender" or "age" thing.
Gary Whitta
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I'm sure Apple will address that with a new product in 15-20 years when that actually happens. For right now, they're going to make a lot of money with a product that almost all people find delightfully easy to use, just as they have been doing since the launch of the first iPod.Kodiak said:
TheEastonator said:
I couldn't agree more. I was just dying to be all excited about the Apple tablet but the iPad is such a letdown. I don't need a second bigger iPod Touch. My iPhone does just fine. It is way too limited to replace a full laptop with its lack of multitasking and limited iPhone OS. For that same price of $500 you can get a decent netbook or laptop with waaayyyy more functionality. The pretty Apple interface just isnt worth the premium to me.
I am really surprised that they launched this so called "revolutionary" product with no revolutionary features. It is for all intents and purposes an iPod Touch with a larger screen. Where is the new interface that makes tasks like web browsing or email more intuitive? Where are the groundbreaking features I can't find in any other product or form factor? There really isn't any. They REALLY should have expanded the OS MUUUUCCHHHH more.
Kodiak said:
That's not at all true. People learn to deal with computers to get to the things they DO do. People rarely know much more beyond that. People who do are geeks, and they're the people that the illiterate people call when they have a problem, like aforementioned deleting of the internet.
I'll probably be interested in the year 2 or year 3 version. Give it higher resolution, some level of multitasking, and an eye-popping screen, and it'd probably make a great portable image viewer (photo sharing, comic reader, etc.), and occasional movie viewer and "couch" web browser. But this model seems very first gen, not nearly attractive enough to buy yet.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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It's not even an old people problem.Kodiak said:
Younger people know how to type fast (usually) and can get around the Internet, but their computers are still a fucking mess, and they don't know anything once you tell them to open the file explorer or Control Panel. Going into either of those completely trips them out.
When all of us can honestly say that we have never had a friend or relative bug us about fixing or helping with anything computer-related at all, we can say that computer illiterates are not the majority of people.
Flying_Phoenix said:
I think people confuse illiteracy with laziness a lot. A genuinely illiterate person wouldn't be able to use a computer in a way that would produce a desktop covered in files.
And I don't think most Apple products actually cater to -- or for that matter market to -- computer illiterates. The vast majority of iphone and mac owners I know are anything but illiterate on any scale. The only notable exception imo is the classic ipods.
SecretBonusPoint
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I see a lot of people referring to it as a Tablet here and there. I'd say, post briefing, that there isn't really anything Tablet left to the device. Its very much its own thing from the iPhone/iTouch side of things, and you wouldn't call them "tablets" (or "pills", haw haw haw).
I'm surprised actually that so little time or depth was given to the "digital magazine" side of things more, which still feels like the big "exclusive" thing this device would be driving, instead having a disproportional focus on iWorks trying to convince students and the like that this could feasibly replace their laptop (it wont)
I'm surprised actually that so little time or depth was given to the "digital magazine" side of things more, which still feels like the big "exclusive" thing this device would be driving, instead having a disproportional focus on iWorks trying to convince students and the like that this could feasibly replace their laptop (it wont)
Technosteve
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iPad the Wii for touch generation.
Gary Whitta
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I hope someone is keeping tabs on some of these posts so we have nice crow-eating thread a la Avatar in a few months' time :lol
Marty Chinn
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I'm not sure why people are high fiving a zing against the MS Courier when Apple didn't even come close to showing something to be celebrating over.
Marty Chinn
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SnakeXs said:
Ya but nobody is saying MS knocked it out of the park. If anything, people were jumping on MS for not showing it at CES. Seems like a weak deflection point because of Apple's shortcomings rather than MS failing or even boosting which they didn't. The only thing being said is it looks like MS at least looks to be trying something interesting and different by comparison.
I can't see the iPad as anything but a MASSIVE FAIL.
For ~$850 I can get a Dell 17" laptop, an iPhone 3G, AND a Kindle.
Why would I spend that kind of money and get 1/2 the functionality?
Apple says they want to be at the intersection of arts and technology, but what use is a tablet you can't sketch on?
The iPad is a iPhone without the phone, and a tablet computer without the computer.
For ~$850 I can get a Dell 17" laptop, an iPhone 3G, AND a Kindle.
Why would I spend that kind of money and get 1/2 the functionality?
Apple says they want to be at the intersection of arts and technology, but what use is a tablet you can't sketch on?
The iPad is a iPhone without the phone, and a tablet computer without the computer.
This is exactily what they are going for. This is their version of the netbook. But the thing is, you can buy a cheaper netbook with more power, more storage, real keyboard etc.. for almost half the starting price of this. Now obviously this thing has a Touch Screen which jacks up the price. But in terms of usability, the netbooks can do more for less.cjelly said:
The people that buy netbooks are looking for a cheap computer, the Apple brand may help sale the thing to these consumers but I still feel if they had a choice they would either pay for the cheaper Netbook or pay a little more and get a nice laptop.
And yeah the Ipad will probably be easier to use for the uninformed, but normal people really only browse the web and check email, and if you don't know how to do that on a normal computer...
This thing is still going to sell though, especially with apple's recent successes and their marketing power.
Starchasing
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Gary Whitta said:
i do the same... i even activated the single app mode in mac os x and for me there is no going back... as i see multi tasking is way over rated by people that havent tried single tasking
Hari Seldon
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If the MS Courier is anything like the video, then it won't even compete with the iPad. They will be two entirely different devices: iPad for fun, Courier for work. I could see many people buying both. That is what I will do if the Courier lives up to the video.
I buy that, but I don't think we need to downplay the merit of multitasking in the meantime.Tobor said:I really think multitasking just isn't ready yet. They're going to want it to work well before they introduce it. No "Advanced Task Killer" in the app store, please.
And with current revs of Android OS, Advanced Task Killer really just caters to control freaks because the system controls resources behind the scenes very well now. It's a legacy app at this point.
That heavily depends on the app, some apps inflict a heavier startup cost than others, and whatever those apps may be caching in their saved instances. It's a prime reason why people rely on multitasking when document editing.mrkgoo said:
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