Buggy Loop
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Interesting interview with Palmer.
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Apple Vision Pro VR will start at $3499.
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Interesting interview with Palmer.
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Pre orders start today.
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A very good overview
calistan
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Considering that the thing is only a couple of weeks from launch, it's crazy that they still haven't allowed anyone to be filmed using it.
You can talk about it, but you can't show it. Maybe they're going for that "nobody can be told what the Matrix is" vibe.
FingerBang
Member
There's a chance my company might get a few devices at launch, though being based in Europe means we'd have to jump through a few hoops to get them.
There's also a chance I'll have my personal one in the future.
I'm excited but also afraid, as a developer, Apple will force everyone to play by their own rules and not let interesting technologies on the device. We have a direct contact with them so it might not be that bad
There's also a chance I'll have my personal one in the future.
I'm excited but also afraid, as a developer, Apple will force everyone to play by their own rules and not let interesting technologies on the device. We have a direct contact with them so it might not be that bad
Chittagong
Gold Member
Do we have a single person on GAF who has said they will get one? I am probably the biggest Apple geek here, bought pretty much every Apple product since iMax (yes even iPod Hi-Fi) but I still can’t muster excitement for this.
I just don’t know what to use it for. It will be too sweaty and short battery life for work stuff. 3D photos are cool but not for that price. Movies, well on an airplane this would be cool, but it’s enormous to carry onboard.
Will try to book a test in LA in March to build conviction.
I just don’t know what to use it for. It will be too sweaty and short battery life for work stuff. 3D photos are cool but not for that price. Movies, well on an airplane this would be cool, but it’s enormous to carry onboard.
Will try to book a test in LA in March to build conviction.
diffusionx
Gold Member
The prices for the accessories are insane. $200 for a carrying case. This is just pure consoooooooomerism
Kilau
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That’s why I bought two.
Mephisto40
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I just don't get why you would spend this much money on something you'll probably use a handful of times
Ribi
Member
Because it's an apple product! Just like a switch you buy it for the brand then you let it collect dust
CobraAB
Member
Well, its not for you obviously.
alphachino
Member
I'd probably use it a lot, but unless it can replace my Windows PC, Linux PC and 3 Macs, I don't think it's going to be worth it. What I mean is that if it can consolidate my machines down to fewer or at least have desktop mode for as many desktops as you want, then I can see myself jumping in even at the current price.
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I thought the same as well but people that have tried it have started to say it’s pretty good value for money as you can have loads of high resolution micro oled virtual monitors surrounding you.
Rocco Schiavone
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Do you think Apple will save VR gaming?
In the last 48 hours I've seen a continuous stream of news saying Apple is the last hope for VR, or it's only chance. When reading these articles which report on the same news, I skip to the writers personal commentary, or the comments and forum posts if the site has one, and the users express...
3499$
yurinka
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All I saw so far seems to be the same than Quest 3, which is way cheaper. I'm working on a VR game prototype but remotely, and visited the office to test the prototype which I played in Quest 2 and 3.
The AR thing and hand tracking of that bitch is flawless, and the image quality is miles ahead of what I played in the past (PSVR1, Oculus Quest, Vive).
Not sure if there's going to be a noticiable difference or anything new that justifies to pay that big difference in price. I think it's goingt the same that happened using Windows vs MacOs on PC or iPhone vs Android in phones or tablets, where you often find better hardware and software in the non-Apple brand at a way better price.
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Eh. Battery lasts 2 hours.
It’ll most probably be Mac only, when it comes to extending your PC.
If your use case requires a locked down platform with only mobile tier gaming, then yeah.
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SecretAgentHam
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I’m pretty excited about what this product can do, but I’m not thrilled by that price. I might have to wait for a second generation when they can lower the price on this thing (wishful thinking). Can’t wait to see what the reviews and impressions reveal about the device.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I;m too lazy to check whats going on with Apple VR. Whats the previews say so far? Great? Good? Shit?
Ribi
Member
Expensive, good all around.
The fear: like most first generation apple products it's a beta test for idiots who want to pay extra while others wait for the real final product in a few months or next year. Based on the iPhone launch, iPod, Mac desktop, Mac laptop, and even the apple watch.
rofif
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They guy knew what he was doing.
Oculus cv1 had koss headphones inside for a reason. Still best audio for vr.
It was extremely light and very comfortable. Still the only headset that could stay on my face for hours without need to constantly adjust.
Sure i gave you a vr face but other headsets do that too and you constantly have to adjust.
alphachino
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I'm sure moonlight will come to it. as it stands, i play my gaming pc mainly through my main mac at 120fps which is an M1 mini. Very good low energy platform for day-to-day tasks and streaming.
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Reallink
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Sony's the only company on the planet that can even half manufacture these displays in limited quantities and Apple has prebought every ounce of their capacity for years to come. Even Samsung and LG are years behind Sony on mass producing micro oleds. You will not see competitive products for like 3 years.
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Audiophile
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$3500-$4000 for the main unit and they charge you $200 extra for a carrying case. ¬_¬
majorgamer10
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They know their audience by now, it seems.They are clearly targeting career focused people without kids lol.
Wonko_C
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Most likely staring at your cellphone/monitor is way more harmful to your eyes than using any headset. Due to the stereoscopic nature your eyes constantly change focus like in real life instead of being fixed in a single spot. Even reading books can develop myopia.
diffusionx
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The bigger picture is never buy a first gen Apple device
Look at all their stuff and the massive improvements they made between gen 1 and gen 2.
SegaSnatcher
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At $3499 this will obviously be a niche of niche product. Considering how niche VR already is I don't understand Apple's strategy here with this uber expensive VR device.
fran.fernandez
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Waiting for the games and NOT quest 2/3 ports
simpatico
Member
It's a luxury beta test. I'm sure the plan is to get the price down. It's brand new tech.
Minsc
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I'm hard pressed to think of a single PSVR2 that would release on this, or a single non PCVR game for that matter.
Like there's going to be none. Sony barely funds PS VR2 games, you think Apple is going to fund AVP games?
SidViscous
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It's so whack they have a £3499 version with 256gb storage, then the £3699 with actual decent storage space. Is it really worth having a whole other SKU for a 8% cheaper hobbled version of a luxury device.
Chittagong
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What’s the big picture? I don’t think even Apple has thought it through
The only big picture I can think of is that they hope and pray that the Vision Pro survives long enough for light AR glasses become feasible, so that they can get on them running. There is no future where everyone wears VR headsets
Audiophile
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Even taking into account certain skus subsidising the wider platform, their markups are insane, charging $200 for an extra 256GB of storage, then another $200 for an extra 512GB on top of that. A consumer can buy 1TB of the fastest NVMe storage in the world for the price of that first 256GB upgrade.
Given that they were already charging $400 to switch out ~$40 worth of RAM for ~$80 worth of RAM (on the BoM) in the MacBooks; I guess it's not surprising.
Seems odd to offer a "budget" 256GB option when you're already forking out $3.5K to begin with. Would that many folks really wanna gimp themselves on such a big purchase? 512GB-1TB should be standard then a 2TB premium option.
$3499 512GB & $3799 2TB
Given that they were already charging $400 to switch out ~$40 worth of RAM for ~$80 worth of RAM (on the BoM) in the MacBooks; I guess it's not surprising.
Seems odd to offer a "budget" 256GB option when you're already forking out $3.5K to begin with. Would that many folks really wanna gimp themselves on such a big purchase? 512GB-1TB should be standard then a 2TB premium option.
$3499 512GB & $3799 2TB
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calistan
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Given that it's bascially an iPad Pro for your face, the pricing is quite similar. That starts at a miserable 128GB, but then it's 'only' an extra $100 to go to 256GB, and another $200 to go to 512GB, etc.
All of this stuff is built into the SOC, so it's not like you can compare it directly to the price of PC storage, but Apple know what they're doing with their 'popcorn' pricing model.
Guerilla Munch
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Half the population walks around with airpods in their ears. Zoomers wear them 24/7. Apple entering the VR/AR space means that in 5 years we'll probably have headsets the size of eye glasses that people will upgrade every year regardless of cost.
Your dreaming.
ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
Economics is way differet now.
Honestly, despite the fact that I'm deep into Apple ecosystem (iPhone, iPad, MacBook, MacMini), it's very hard to find a worse timing for launching $3500 device with a plan to cheapen it out to $2000. Especially when you read about layoffs, food inflation and shrinking economics on AVP main markets.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
They presumably think 3499 sounds much more palatable than 3699.
For a while Apple's pricing strategy has been to create a number of SKUs that gradually upgrade potential customers from "well, if I'm spending this much, I might as well spend a little more for this upgrade" through about 5 steps, until they're paying significantly more than they initially expected.
John Marston
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At this price I can get 2 high end escorts to do my dishes & mow my lawn for 1 hour or purchase 1749 boxes of Kraft dinner.
My PSVR2 does the job.
My PSVR2 does the job.
hououinkyouma00
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It’s not a VR headset. Vision Pro is not the same thing as Meta Quest or the other headsets.
It may share similarities with those headsets but it’s not the same thing. The thing closest would be that headset Sony announced at CES.
RoboFu
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It also contains a M2 pro. It's not some cheap mobile chip. It's like strapping a MacBook Pro to your face with the best goggle tech.
But also there will be a future cheaper version. These are not mass consumer devices.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
I bought one.
Minsc
Gold Member
It's a strange distinction when I'm not aware of anything it does which cannot be done on a Quest. Even the all powerful M2 chip is nothing next to linking a Quest to a PC.