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Are you looking forward to next gen in 2027?
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Team Andromeda
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I can't wait myself
Hawk The Slayer
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Yes even if I won't get any consoles but I still wanna see more and more new games on the PC. It'll mean I could get a sample of how Elder Scrolls VI and Fallout 5 would be like.
yurinka
Member
I think we'll get the next gen released around a year and a half from now, and I think it's ok, but I think the current gen has a ton more to offer during many years more.
I don't feel this gen is getting old, I think it's starting to gets its main games now. As an example this year with games like RE Requiem, Marathon, Pragmata, Marvel Tokon, Onimusha, Wolverine, GTA6, 007 or the new Control. I assume next year may get the next big games (also the first non PS4 gen games) from people like ND, SSM or big IPs like CoD.
So while I think next gen getting released is cool and I can't wait to see what it offers and how good games look there, I also think it's going to be totally fine to continue some years more in the current gen and instead of getting a base PS6 on release day (as usual) I'll be able to wait and get PS6 Pro at launch whenever it releases around 3 years later or so. Particularly because rising budgets very likely will force its games to be crossgen with PS5 gen and related portables (which could include the Sony one).
Meaning, what they meant is that PS5 will continue alive until at least 2032 or so. Which doesn't mean that they'd release PS6 in 2032 or so. Very likely PS6 will be released November 2027 keeping the 7 years distance tradition.
I don't feel this gen is getting old, I think it's starting to gets its main games now. As an example this year with games like RE Requiem, Marathon, Pragmata, Marvel Tokon, Onimusha, Wolverine, GTA6, 007 or the new Control. I assume next year may get the next big games (also the first non PS4 gen games) from people like ND, SSM or big IPs like CoD.
So while I think next gen getting released is cool and I can't wait to see what it offers and how good games look there, I also think it's going to be totally fine to continue some years more in the current gen and instead of getting a base PS6 on release day (as usual) I'll be able to wait and get PS6 Pro at launch whenever it releases around 3 years later or so. Particularly because rising budgets very likely will force its games to be crossgen with PS5 gen and related portables (which could include the Sony one).
Sony doesn't kill their consoles when a successor gets released. In recent generations they released a new generation every 7 years, but each console lasted for a dozen years or so.
Meaning, what they meant is that PS5 will continue alive until at least 2032 or so. Which doesn't mean that they'd release PS6 in 2032 or so. Very likely PS6 will be released November 2027 keeping the 7 years distance tradition.
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daninthemix
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I'm on PC so next Gen is already here.
FauxXeno
Member
Never owned a xbox but I'm finding their hardware might be more compelling then PS especially if I can use a PS controller on it and not have to P2play online . I'm not one of those couch people , my gaming setup has been gaming chair/desk setup since ps3 and if I'm spending a premium then I want more then a basic game box with neutered media applications this time around like the ps4/5 have been and I doubt ps6 will stray from that format.
Anyways by the time any of those come out I'll already have a PC that'll out perform them all .. only hardware I wanna try is the new steam controller and frame .
If anything I might check out the PS6 portable if I can have access to my ps4/5 library and just sell my old consoles .
Anyways by the time any of those come out I'll already have a PC that'll out perform them all .. only hardware I wanna try is the new steam controller and frame .
If anything I might check out the PS6 portable if I can have access to my ps4/5 library and just sell my old consoles .
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Zacfoldor
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Putonahappyface
Gold Member
No. More first party games need to be rolled out, without the D.E.I forced slop.
cinnamonandgravy
Member
always exciting to see next gen consoles
if sucky, you get memes
if good, you get a good console
if sucky, you get memes
if good, you get a good console
daninthemix
Member
What are you looking forward to next Gen, path tracing? I've been enjoying that since 2023. good gif though, I really laughed.
JimmyRustler
Member
No. I probably already have a PC that is more powerful than the upcoming consoles. That aside, the way the industry is going I don't expect a bright future in AAA.
adventurer_unknown
Neo Member
Normally I would agree but there's multiple factors that make this a unique exception to the standard 7-8 year cycle. The first being that the consoles released during the pandemic. That alone delayed the entire industry (and truthfully the world) by two to three years MINIMUM. Second, the inflation index alone would bar most of these companies from turning profits of any sort even years post launch of a new platform. Third, the price of RAM isn't coming down ANYTIME soon and in fact will probably continue to go up. Those three reasons are enough to reasonably suspect that Next Gen is still a WAYS off. To be honest, to think otherwise is pure unfiltered hopium.
MiguelItUp
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Eh, I'm always excited about the future of video games. There will be good, and there will be bad. There will be games I play, and games I avoid. I'll just continue to hope for the same every year, which is I hope there are more games that I'm interested in rather than the opposite. But we'll see!
viveks86
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I don't know man... Sad to see gaming enthusiasts not enthusiastic about new developments in gaming. It's literally one of the two things you spend on for this hobby. Hardware and Software. I know money doesn't come easy for everyone, but not even looking forward to it requires some level of disillusionment and cynicism towards the activity that you love...
It's like a Ferrari lover rolling their eyes when a new Ferrari is announced. You don't need to buy it, but are you not even excited for it? Not criticizing the majority here. You feel what you feel and expressing it is honest. But it's just sad to see that's where we are as a community.
It's like a Ferrari lover rolling their eyes when a new Ferrari is announced. You don't need to buy it, but are you not even excited for it? Not criticizing the majority here. You feel what you feel and expressing it is honest. But it's just sad to see that's where we are as a community.
asdasdasdbb
Member
The consoles are coming out as long as MS/Sony can get the materials.
adventurer_unknown
Neo Member
Kudos for being an optimist. I just don't see it happening.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Wasted yes.
Good word, as there is a game coming out this year that may show how much better gaming could be without it.
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LiquidMetal14
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Honestly with what we have on PC and what we have on consoles already, the only thing I'm really looking forward to is probably a portable PlayStation. If Xbox is a PC then it's as useless as it is right now for somebody like me. I actually like the idea of the box it's Microsoft's implementation and poor handling of Windows that concerns me and should concern everybody really.
IntentionalPun
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Sure, why not?
dgrdsv
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Consoles have stopped being "new developments in gaming" since circa AMD taking the lead on h/w for all console makers.
Not saying that it's AMD's fault (although to some degree it is; they have been incredibly slow with h/w advances since GCN1) since this is mostly driven by the economy of production but it is what it is.
PS4/XBO were boring as hell, using low end CPUs and mid-range GPUs.
PS5/XS weren't much better although they did use somewhat modern CPUs but all that amounted to as of now are all games running at 60 which to me as a PC gamer first is a waste.
This next gen will probably be similar to this one, so nothing too exciting aside from possibly RT becoming ubiquitous which would be nice, been waiting since 2018 for that.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
You didn't like Elden Ring, Astrobot or Baldur's gate?
There's been a few really good standout games this gen.
IntentionalPun
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They certainly were this gen with I/O. Not sure how much it ended up mattering though.
TheCrowsReaper
Member
No matter how I feel about gaming at the moment, and I am down on it right now for various reasons, next-gen will always excite me. I can't help it.
yurinka
Member
Yes, all this is true.
But regarding the RAM/SSD pricing, it will increase over time, because AI will need more and more. The inflation in general won't stop. The Epstein alliance entering more wars to loot oil and gas from more countries will cause to rise oil price and inflation, meaning to increase prices of everything. As an example cloing Ormuz will fuck the economy of many countries.
So the more they wait to release it, the higher will be the launch price of the console (plus its games and services) they'll need to have at launch to don't sell it with at too huge loss.
We saw hardware components increase due to shortages created by covid, by bitcoin farmers, by electronic cars production, by AI servers, by huge inflation in general and the next one I think will be humanoid robots becoming mainstream for some indrustries and to have them at home (something I think we'll start to see during this next gen). And I think inflation will continue skyrocketing.
I think the times where components got cheaper over time are over. I think next gen, like in the current one will see multiple price increments.
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adventurer_unknown
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This is just my opinion, but when we started to hyper fixate on things like FPS and resolution, we took many steps backwards into this new form of neo tribalism. Games are "bad" now if they don't have 60-120 FPS or have hyper realism and ray tracing. We've reduced the hobby down to numbers and stats rather than admiring if for being a form of art. Obviously that doesn't apply to everyone, but this is just what I've observed. They always hit back with "I have standards, console peasant." It's like… okay, but does your standards allow for nuance and can you even identify a good game or are we just gonna continue to hyper focus on numbers that mean literally nothing to anyone outside of the game engineers and financial departments?
PeteBull
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We just saw ps5pr0 crimson desert DF vid, and guess what it dips into 30s even on 60fps target mode, funny thing is u can remove fps cap/v-sync so assuming u got enough of both cpu and gpu power, like in case of future ps6, instead of chosing 30fps 4k mode or 40fps balanced (i hope no1 plays at unstable 60 but u never know 
) u simply start the game on ur brand new ps6 in backwards compatibility super upgrade mode in 4k30 with no fps cap and get flawless 4k60 at best settings too.
Why not let games spread their wings if we can do it, and we will be able to with ps6
) u simply start the game on ur brand new ps6 in backwards compatibility super upgrade mode in 4k30 with no fps cap and get flawless 4k60 at best settings too.Why not let games spread their wings if we can do it, and we will be able to with ps6
dgrdsv
Member
I mean, for consoles it mattered like A LOT. For PC though? I've been running games off SSDs since late 2000s.
diffusionx
Gold Member
What is the new development? Like what are you getting out of it?
This is not like Super Nintendo where you see a commercial for F-Zero and are blown away because it's so far beyond what you have right now. I could load up Witcher 3 on my PS5 right now, game came out 10 years ago, cand it still looks... pretty good. Maybe not as good as a new title but this is a decade old game that still looks really nice.
The improvements you get are so incremental at this point like what is there to be excited about? With PS5 at least we got 60fps, SSD, smoioth interface, no jet engine takeoff, so even if the improvement in graphics wasn't mind blowing it was a better experience. So now we got all that.. so what am I going to get excited about this time? 1440p base resolution instead of 1080p. Like... okay.
I don't want to count frames or argue about power or die size or any of that shit anymore actually. I just want to play games with a good experience and I have that already.
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IntentionalPun
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Their I/O APIs made them faster for the exact same drive speed. DirectStorage is helping but it's not well supported.
In the end my point was it barely mattered that much. We proved that the "this is going to make graphics amazing!" shit was bullshit pretty early in the gen that so many people were hyped on.
You still get better load times on PS5 than PC for many games, but it depends on how I/O bound the loading is. Some loading is based on CPU doing work and PC has big advantages their obviously.
dgrdsv
Member
It's mostly useless. PCs did have an NVMe support problem but this one isn't down to DXS, it's down to drivers which are emulating SCSi up till this date.
Don't get me wrong though, consoles did push MS into exploring their options in improving PC/Windows support for SSDs which is great.
Did it amount to much though? Not really. You can play all current gen games w/o DXS support off SSD just fine. You'll need a slightly beefier CPU than in a console but chances are that you already have one regardless.
So for PC this was a lot of nothing in the end.
Sethbacca
Member
Why buy a PS6 Pro 2-3 years after when you could get a PS7 2-3 years further out? At the end of the day people need to make a decision to buy in or wait based on their desire for available games.
viveks86
Gold Member
The same thing you get out of a new bow, if you are into archery. Or a new model of a racket, if you are into tennis. Or a new car, if you are into racing.
This is the thing once cynicism sets in. Mere evolution is not enough. People want a revolution every few years. Anything short of that is... boring? Sounds pretty jaded to me.
Path tracing, once seen as an unachievable holy grail being available in real time, is mind blowing to me. The fact that a whole ass game level with all its complexity can now load in 2 seconds is mind blowing to me. What Sophy does in Gran Turismo is mind blowing. How that could inspire other devs to implement actual AI (as opposed to scripted routines) in gameplay is exciting. A lot of these have generational dependencies, so a new generation automatically brings excitement, if you are into that sort of thing.
It's all mind blowing because I'm a gaming enthusiast. By definition, the little advances should matter to an enthusiast. Otherwise, what's the difference between an enthusiast and a casual consumer that just likes to be loud on the internet? It's fine to be a casual consumer, that's their prerogative. But if that's what the majority of this forum is, then this is either not the place for enthusiasts or gaming enthusiasts are becoming a dying breed. Or everyone is just jaded with the hobby altogether. All of that makes me sad is all.
You are seeing this from a different lens though. As a PC enthusiast you get access to a lot of these advancement before consoles do. So it makes sense that it's less exciting for you. I think what you can look forward to is the mainstreaming of tech that only a few games currently use. That just means better things for everyone, PC players included... but I get the PC gamer point of view at least.
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Impotaku
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As someone who didn't give a fuck about ps5 and hasn't even picked up a switch 2 i can't see myself even remotely looking at whats beyond the reality is i'm more than happy with the output of the switch. There's still a load of games coming on a frequent basis and most are hardly breaking the bank in the £30-40 price range so i can mop up new ones while seeing what i missed out on that got released without me knowing.
The older i get the less i give a shit about graphical power we are already at a point where it's good enough but yet the power of even current gen hasn't been tapped and i'm supposed to be getting excited about PS6 & what ever microsoft put out yeh i'll pass i game at my own pace.
The older i get the less i give a shit about graphical power we are already at a point where it's good enough but yet the power of even current gen hasn't been tapped and i'm supposed to be getting excited about PS6 & what ever microsoft put out yeh i'll pass i game at my own pace.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Yea and people who are into those hobbies often come to the realization they've become a consoooooming redditor who are defining their identity by what they buy instead of just enjoying what they have. A lot of times you dont' need a new bow or a new racket to keep enjoying archery or tennis.
Maybe you are more of a tech enthusiast than a game enthusiast. These advancements are becoming increasingly iterative, small, and expensive, and as such, ironically, you're less likely to see these things in new games until much much later. Like maybe 3 or 4 years into PS6 you will start seeiing path tracing games that drop the PS5. It's not anything to be super excited about. The jump between PS5 Pro and PS6 will be the smallest "generational leap" we've ever had. I don't need a PS6 to keep enjoying videogames whereas, in the mid 1990s, you really needed a PS1 to start getting all this 3D stuff that just didn't exist before.
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LavitzSlambert
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This exact statement was made in 2005, about the first Xbox's 4 year lifespan.
I wouldn't mind staying on current hardware longer, especially considering the death of Moore's Law and computing becoming less affordable.
viveks86
Gold Member
Fair enough. I certainly obsess over tech more than it is necessary, so I will concede to that.
The jump between Pro and PS6 isn't a generational leap. But I certainly believe the jump from PS5 to PS6 is going to be bigger than PS4 to PS5. When devs get onboard with path tracing and stop paying any attention to baked lighting, cross gen will start looking really ugly. And when they stop baking lighting altogether or build anything fundamental to the game on top of the ML hardware (for rendering or otherwise), the base consoles will truly be left behind, just like the jump to 3D.
Optimistic speculation on my part, as devs adopt new tech at a glacial pace, but the ingredients for a paradigm shift are there...
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