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Are you waiting for a 3DS redesign?
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ScrabbleDude
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I'm waiting for the redesign, which I'm sure will contain the second analog, L2 and R2, have a better battery life, and not scratch the upper screen.
turnbuckle
Member
Absolutely waiting for a re-design. The games that are coming out that I want now will still be available with a re-design. They'll also likely be cheaper, the system likely more comfortable and with better features, and possibly an even lower price point (though not likely). There are so many other options available nowadays that I don't feel like I'm missing out if I wait awhile before picking up a new system. Especially ones that are prime targets for being upgraded/updated in the not-too-distant future.
turnbuckle
Member
If little to no money means $40-60, ok. Buy a $170 3ds today, and in a year or less when a revision comes out the used price of that 3ds is going to be close to 80-120 (depending on if Nintendo price drops the old model).
AbsoluteZero said:
The only way there is never a revision is if the 3ds goes the way of the dreamcast. And if that's the case, the next handheld wouldn't be too far off and would probably be backwards compatible. So in your scenario I probably never would buy a 3DS. In the more likely scenario, I'll buy one within a year.
Well, DS Lite came out 2 years after the DS phat. If they were to go with the same pattern, we'd probably get the 3DS "Lite" (or whatever) in 2013. But who knows? Nintendo is so unpredictable...
I think what he says is pretty much spot on. There's a reason the circle pad was pretty much announced together with Monster Hunter and let's not forget the bundle. Nintendo "let" Capcom design the Classic Controller Pro and picked up MH in the West, it's pretty obvious they want to grab the IP since it's freaking huge in Japan.
The circle pad hasn't been announced in the West has it?
ScrabbleDude
Member
Really? I see a lot of second hand 3DS available for between $100 and $125. EB gives $90 for it, so they are still selling for more than EB gives them. I don't think anyone is going to buy an original model 3DS second hand for full price.
WrenchNinja
Member
Or he could just wait and not have to spend any money at all until the revision comes out.
manueldelalas
Time Traveler
The frankenstick exists to please monster hunter fans and Capcom, nothing else.
Western gamers on handhelds are the most casual gamers there are, japanese gamers are much more dedicated, the dudebro community don't give a shit at handheld gaming, and no one will change that.
I wouldn't even be surprised if the frankenstick isn't released in the west...
WrenchNinja
Member
Sure seems like it's pleasing Square-Enix and Konami what with them wanting to support it with their games.
radioheadrule83
Banned
I think it'll be released but I think the design of it, the ergonomic underside, the extra triggers - hint to it being more an expansion and an attempt to manufacture and monetize peripherals for handhelds rather than a hint of where they're thinking of going with any revision. I think the similarities to the Wii-U controller in that particular setup could be intentional too.
I'll be interested to find out what their intentions are one way or another. I'm surprised an interviewer hasn't straight up asked them if they intend to include the controls in later versions of 3DS yet.
manueldelalas
Time Traveler
Yes, probably a lot of japanese games will use it as an optional, but it wouldn't exist if it wasn't for Monster Hunter. The same as the CCPro, many companies used it, but if it wasn't for MH, it wouldn't have been ever made.
I was going to respond with this, but you just said it. If the frankenstick really was for MoHun and MoHun only, it certainly means Nintendo is not going to release this in the west because the west barely knows MoHun exists. But the fact that we even know this thing will be called the Circle Pad Pro, almost guarantees it will be released in the west.
Just because the circle pad is being released with MH doesn't mean that it's made solely for MH. This isn't like the WiiFit Board, where it had very limited uses for gaming, this is a second analog stick which is basically as important if not more important to many gamers than the D-Pad. Even then the WiiFit Board was used for other games and was made with other applications in mind.
A green 3DS hasn't even been announced yet...
Conrad Link
Member
I was little down on the 3DS earlier in the year, I had huge excitement for it but it was really slow out of the blocks (even by usual standards).
Fast forward to today though, there are already more games out that I want now than I can even afford/have time to play.
Moral of the story, yes I'd love a bigger screen XL model/redesign, I've said that since day 1..... but I'm happily playing my current one while I wait for it. Thats how I do things.
Fast forward to today though, there are already more games out that I want now than I can even afford/have time to play.
Moral of the story, yes I'd love a bigger screen XL model/redesign, I've said that since day 1..... but I'm happily playing my current one while I wait for it. Thats how I do things.
Oh come on you know a green one will eventually be released.
Conrad Link
Member
Also even though I have a launch 3DS it looks like I'll end up with a Zelda one too lol, f**king Nintendo have me by the balls when it comes to anything Zelda.
Seems silly, I wasn't planning on spending anything more on hardware again till a redesign but, its, so, pretty, mmm, Zelda.
Seems silly, I wasn't planning on spending anything more on hardware again till a redesign but, its, so, pretty, mmm, Zelda.
Mr_Appleby
Member
i'm waiting for TriG more than a redesign. right now there's nothing i want to play on it, and since i can't see the 3D effect there's no novelty factor either.
manueldelalas
Time Traveler
No it doesn't.
wondermega
Member
Rickenslacker
Banned
Which is more effort and more money spent when I could just as easily wait it out. No rush.
A piece of shit? Apart from the lack of screen illumination the design is solid. Micro wins for portability, but there's nothing offensive with the original's designs. It's no where near the same league as the original DS.
By that logic you should wait for revision n°2 in few years!
Rickenslacker
Banned
Certainly, depending on the person and situation. Personally I've been pretty good with second revision Nintendo handhelds though.
Noisepurge
Member
I caved in when i saw the OT for Aliens Infestation, had to get in on that shit 
(http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=447318)
And i have no expectations of any 3DS games so far, just got it for DS games. I can get the stick parasite afterwards if any games show up that would hugely benefit from it.
Besides, the 3DS was cheaper than a DSiXL that i originally wanted, but i just couldn't justify paying more for older tech.
(http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=447318)And i have no expectations of any 3DS games so far, just got it for DS games. I can get the stick parasite afterwards if any games show up that would hugely benefit from it.
Besides, the 3DS was cheaper than a DSiXL that i originally wanted, but i just couldn't justify paying more for older tech.
Nuclear Muffin
Banned
OP is correct, been saying this ever since details about the Circle Pad Pro came out.
A redesign won't be coming out for at least another year and it won't include the second stick because there's no way to fit those extra 2 shoulder buttons onto the hardware (unless they double the system thickness, which will not happen)
People who continue to state otherwise are either trolling, purposely spreading FUD, or are really stupid.
A redesign won't be coming out for at least another year and it won't include the second stick because there's no way to fit those extra 2 shoulder buttons onto the hardware (unless they double the system thickness, which will not happen)
People who continue to state otherwise are either trolling, purposely spreading FUD, or are really stupid.
Noisepurge
Member
I could see it being the exact same size as the current model.
In theory, shave a little off the base size and use similar small trigger buttons as the current 3DS already has, just stack them on top of each other. Also make the screen hinge a little smaller to make room for fingers.
Tadaa! It won't be all that ergonomic or comfortable but they will be there for the games that optionally use them.
CoffeeJanitor
Member
Let's come back to this in 2 years. Just look at the CC for a way to make them fit.
airmangataosenai
Member
Dude, you're in denial if you think they'd release something like this peripheral if they weren't using it to test the audience. If adoption is low I doubt they'll pursue it (Same way with the PSP Go failing prevented Sony from moving to pure digital) but to write off the idea of them releasing a remodel as "FUD" is completely delusional.
Either way, this thread is going to be fun come 2012.
Either way, this thread is going to be fun come 2012.
So according to you guys, next year Nintendo will advertise its Zelda 3DS on a bigger and more core oriented 3DS? Right...
Next year one can only hope you'll buy a more compact yet better designed console and our little sisters/brothers get second hand 3DS at cheap prices because they are phased out.
And second stick confirmed for everywhere Resident Evil comes out.
Next year one can only hope you'll buy a more compact yet better designed console and our little sisters/brothers get second hand 3DS at cheap prices because they are phased out.
And second stick confirmed for everywhere Resident Evil comes out.
Graphics Horse
Member
Is this still your opinion on people who think there might be something to the analog attachment rumours?
Either Nintend Europe or America has admitted it was coming, I can't remember which. There's no official details but it was shown off in the US at Capcom Gamer's Day last month.
Being made "solely" for MH doesn't mean other games can't use it.
I really dont want bigger. Portable systems should remain nice and tidy and.......portable. If they want to do a 3DS XL sometime down the line, fine, but I'd prefer if this first revision addresses the more important demands:
- a 2nd analog stick - they can make it work.
- better battery life
- better looks that will distinguish it further from the DS
Give me 2 of those 3 and I'll buy the revision. All 3 would be ideal.
- a 2nd analog stick - they can make it work.
- better battery life
- better looks that will distinguish it further from the DS
Give me 2 of those 3 and I'll buy the revision. All 3 would be ideal.
Nuclear Muffin
Banned
I could see it being the exact same size as the current model.
In theory, shave a little off the base size and use similar small trigger buttons as the current 3DS already has, just stack them on top of each other. Also make the screen hinge a little smaller to make room for fingers.
Tadaa! It won't be all that ergonomic or comfortable but they will be there for the games that optionally use them.
The L/R buttons are already tiny. Any smaller and they'd be uncomfortable to use (and your photoshop example has the buttons going over the hinge, which of course would be impossible to manufacture...)
The way you hold a Classic Controller (non pro) is completely different to how you hold a 3DS. Most people don't have fingers long enough to reach past the current edge of the L/R buttons, so a CC style setup wouldn't work as you wouldn't be able to use the L/R and L2/R2 buttons at the same time...
Why hello Classic Controller Pro! An optional controller co-developed by Capcom, designed entirely around playing Monster Hunter Tri that was not incorporated as a standard controller. Sound familiar?
That was about an absurd sounding rumour, but it was technically possible. To incorporate the L2/R2 buttons into a redesign would require Nintendo to make the system thicker (oh and the DSi XL was no thicker than the DSi BTW). Do you think that is remotely likely to happen?
If a redesign happens, it will not include the 2nd stick or the extra shoulder buttons.
I agree with this. I'm waiting for the 3DS re-design which will have dual analogs. The only game that has me (admittedly, very strongly) interested at the moment is Super Mario 3D Land anyway. So, I'm in no massive rush to buy a 3DS until there is a re-design.
Noisepurge
Member
I never said make the buttons smaller. The current size works, just stack them on top of each other. Also i mentioned that the hinge would have to be a little smaller than the current one or mounted deeper to give space to the buttons and fingers. I just didn't have time to make a perfect mock up
Graphics Horse
Member
I doubt a redesign would be as chunky as the attachment makes it. There's at least 3 ways they can add a second pair of triggers without making a thick unit but I have no idea which option they'd go for.
I never said make the buttons smaller. The current size works, just stack them on top of each other. Also i mentioned that the hinge would have to be a little smaller than the current one or mounted deeper to give space to the buttons and fingers. I just didn't have time to make a perfect mock up
Imagine the hinges are triggers, then you have much more space. You'd have to redesign the lid so it doesn't trap your fingers though.
Nuclear Muffin
Banned
I never said make the buttons smaller. The current size works, just stack them on top of each other. Also i mentioned that the hinge would have to be a little smaller than the current one or mounted deeper to give space to the buttons and fingers. I just didn't have time to make a perfect mock up
You cant fit 2 shoulder buttons at their current size onto the base of the 3DS (they're practically the whole size of the base as they are!)
You'd have to roughly double the thickness of the 3DS to fit 4 shoulder buttons onto it. That's why the redesign will not include the extra buttons (and subsequenty, will not feature the 2nd stick)
If a redesign happens, it'll come with its own specially designed Circle Pad Pro.
Graphics Horse said:
Wont work. The top section with the screen would block your finger's access to the hinge.
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