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Are young Men really choosing games over relationships ?

Young gamers, where do you stand?

  • I'm a young gamer with a perfectly healthy dating life.

    Votes: 75 28.1%

  • Screw dating, I'm all about videogaming, Mountain Dew, and Doritos!

    Votes: 143 53.6%

  • I don't even really game bro; I'm a Giga-Chad!

    Votes: 49 18.4%
  • Total voters
    267
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The question has been asked:

Is this a result of Generation Z men not wanting to date, or young men in general being passed over for more successful and older male options for women?

 
Isn't this some MGTOW youtuber? I mean, I can't speak for younger generation myself, but still this is looking at society with very specific lens.
 
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It doesn't have to be that way, you can game while having sex, but that could ruin your K/D ratio.

Seriously though, anyone puts gaming above "marriage/making a family" probably isn't a worthy husband. But let's not pretend that life isn't getting harder and girls aren't getting more demanding financial-wise, so sometimes it's not a choice but a reality.
 
If gaming was the reason more and more males are refusing to get married we'd be in a pretty good spot as western civilization. The angle is completely messed up in this video.
 
Bo_Hazem said:
It doesn't have to be that way, you can game while having sex, but that could ruin your K/D ratio.

Seriously though, anyone puts gaming above "marriage/making a family" probably isn't a worthy husband. But let's not pretend that life isn't getting harder and girls aren't getting more demanding financial-wise, so sometimes it's not a choice but a reality.
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You live in a good country to get married. In many places it would be one of the worst things that a man could do.
 
I could see where they don't share the same ideas as females. That's in like a lot of different generations. She wants kid and he is just riding it out. They might fear divorce, child support, and etc. Divorce has been a lot more common and Gen Z might see the point in not getting involved. From what I've read, Gen Z also takes longer to get their careers/life started because they feel like they have a lot of time.
Video Games are entertainment for everyone. Not every Gen Z person is a streamer/gamer either.
 
I mean we're talking about young people. Have you met young women today? Maybe I just didn't realize it when I was that age but most of them are fucking insufferable. They are annoying, equally as immature as the men, incredibly shallow, and just absolutely not worth the time to try and get to know and bond with. They're worth maybe a night or two of sex and that's it. I'd just play games over being involved with that shit too. Sure, there are absolutely exceptions to this but it's not at all far from true for most of them. Probably why I've had a thing for older women since my early 20's. By the way, I am not at all implying that young men aren't retarded as well.
 
Rudius said:
You live in a good country to get married. In many places it would be one of the worst things that a man could do.
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I'm fully with you there. If I lived in a country where I'm forced to give up 50% of my hard earned money and assets then I'd really be afraid to get married. Here you should at least pay 80 OMR (~$208) monthly or offer clothing, food, and shelter to her and the baby if you got one, but for being in a tribal society 99% you pay nothing and her family takes care of her and the baby/s. There are some programs for widows that give them some salaries as well, but we're not the best in that regard but having a small population helps.
 
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Young men are spending too much time playing video games which stops them from developing relational skills necessary to start and maintain a relationship.
 
how about asking question from opposite direction instead?

do people not interested over relationship with gamers?
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nowdays there still stereotype mindset exist that 'gamers' is someone who nerd, didnt socialize, waste their time, videogames is for kids, dont do their responsbility etc.
 
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Bo_Hazem said:
It doesn't have to be that way, you can game while having sex, but that could ruin your K/D ratio.

Seriously though, anyone puts gaming above "marriage/making a family" probably isn't a worthy husband. But let's not pretend that life isn't getting harder and girls aren't getting more demanding financial-wise, so sometimes it's not a choice but a reality.
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If girls are demanding financial wise, that's an issue with your views. Women are not a burden. They don't take half of your hard earned money. They take their half of the hard earned money.
Rudius said:
You live in a good country to get married. In many places it would be one of the worst things that a man could do.
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What countries are those?
 
Kumomeme said:
how about asking question from opposite direction instead?



nowdays there still stereotype mindset exist that 'gamers' is someone who nerd, didnt socialize, waste their time, videogames is for kids, dont do their responsbility etc.
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A lot of women game, but they aren't so obsessed with it. There's a degree which I think women tolerate gaming from the opposite sex.
 
Werewolfgrandma said:
If girls are demanding financial wise, that's an issue with your views. Women are not a burden. They don't take half of your hard earned money. They take their half of the hard earned money.
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Of course that's not the case with all. But trends on Snapchat, tik-tok, instagram have raised the bar of "theoretical" happy life. Women are definitely not a burden, and if anything I would've got married much younger if I could.

EDIT: Talking about taking 50% of your money according to some Western laws when divorced, as I understand it.
 
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A lot of women game, but they aren't so obsessed with it. There's a degree which I think women tolerate gaming from the opposite sex.
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A good person will understand it's healthy to have hobbies. A good man won't mind when their spouse has hobbies that don't include him and will not complain about time for them to do it.
 
Northeastmonk said:
A lot of women game, but they aren't so obsessed with it. There's a degree which I think women tolerate gaming from the opposite sex.
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yes. same goes with men. there is various type of gamers out there. not all is the hardcore or obsessed type. i have tons of friends who gamers and still could married and have children.

the problem is overall mass stereotyped view is still exist, despite it been 2021 where esport already become part of people career. media for example often prefer to highlight any bad news that related to gamers for example those who died while playing game, those who neglected duty as parent because of playing game etc without properly cover whole story or other case unrelated to videogame worst than that just for the sake of blaming videogame. not to mention these kind of people just tiny percent over the rest of gamers out there.

but from what i see, time is changing and there nothing these people could do to stop that. things that out of place 10-20 years ago starting to become norm. nowdays, with smartphone everyone can play game be it man, women, younger or older.
 
Bo_Hazem said:
Of course that's not the case with all. But trends on Snapchat, tik-tok, instagram have raise the bar of "theoretical" happy life. Women are definitely not a burden, and if anything I would've got married much younger if I could.
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I think you are focusing on the outliers and noticing gold diggers to a higher rate then they exist. If anything women are becoming more and more successful in the world and require a man's money even less so they put less value on the material things you can supply and more on the emotional ones.
 
Werewolfgrandma said:
I think you are focusing on the outliers and noticing gold diggers to a higher rate then they exist. If anything women are becoming more and more successful in the world and require a man's money even less so they put less value on the material things you can supply and more on the emotional ones.
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It's safe to say both exist, and sometimes you're lucky to get the right type.
 
Bo_Hazem said:
Of course that's not the case with all. But trends on Snapchat, tik-tok, instagram have raise the bar of "theoretical" happy life. Women are definitely not a burden, and if anything I would've got married much younger if I could.

EDIT: Talking about taking 50% of your money according to some Western laws when divorced, as I understand it.
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It's not necessarily a gender thing, mostly income. So don't worry bro, the younger generation of women are making as much if not more money than men. So get your half.
 
Portugeezer said:
It's not necessarily a gender thing, mostly income. So don't worry bro, the younger generation of women are making as much if not more money than men. So get your half.
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I'm married and have a kid! No worries at all, pretty happy and hope all of you get your great half. In my case, she's not working because she couldn't find one as it's getting harder to both genders anyway here (it's optional for her, won't ever force her to work, nor the other way around). But I'll start a business that she should find herself in and we can improve our financial status together!
 
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Bo_Hazem said:
It's safe to say both exist, and sometimes you're lucky to get the right type.
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About the half the money.
In North America if she makes all the money and you stay home and you built the life together the man is entitled to half as well. You also don't have to be married. I can also ensure you the type of person who doesn't think their spouse contributes to their success is a pos who doesn't deserve success in the first place. Fuck them she should take it all.
 
Werewolfgrandma said:
About the half the money.
In North America if she makes all the money and you stay home and you built the life together the man is entitled to half as well. You also don't have to be married. I can also ensure you the type of person who doesn't think their spouse contributes to their success is a pos who doesn't deserve success in the first place. Fuck them she should take it all.
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It doesn't work here anyway. You can't gold dig, if you are a man married to a rich woman then divorced, you get the middle finger. If you're a woman married to a billionaire man and divorced, maximum you can get from court is the bare minimum of around $200/mo or house/apartment provided by the government and small reasonable cash (standard) for the babies. Also as a tribal society it mostly ends up with a clean divorce without anyone paying anything, but some men would give up a whole house, monthly money, and housemaid/s out of goodwill especially if she has kids from him, but no law would force them to do so.
 
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Yes. Women are also going against relationships too though. Maybe not specifically for games but for similarly 'self-involved' reasons. So many people today just see a relationship as a headache that destroys your independence.
 
The simple reality is that a dysfunctional economy and increasing levels of student loan debt mean that young people in general are foregoing sex and delaying starting families. Something like this happened in Japan during that country's long economic stagnation too, and the problem persists there to this day.

You can't fix this via cultural means. The only solution is wealth redistribution, unionization, better working conditions, reindustrialization, and student debt relief to reequilibrate the economy.
 
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IIRC the study found that younger men and women's reduced consumption of alcohol in comparison to previous generations was the cited as the number 1 reason for lower amount of relationships.
 
Imru' al-Qays said:
The simple reality is that a dysfunctional economy and increasing levels of student loan debt mean that young people in general are foregoing sex and delaying starting families. Something like this happened in Japan during that country's long economic stagnation too, and the problem persists there to this day.

You can't fix this via cultural means. The only solution is wealth redistribution, unionization, better working conditions, reindustrialization, and student debt relief to reequilibrate the economy.
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Get ready for the Communist comments from dumb people.
 
Bo_Hazem said:
It doesn't work here anyway. You can't gold dig, if you are a man married to a rich woman then divorced, you get the middle finger. If you're a woman married to a billionaire man and divorced, maximum you can get from court is the bare minimum of around $200 or house/apartment provided by the government and small reasonable cash (standard) for the babies. Also as a tribal society it mostly ends up with a clean divorce without anyone paying anything, but some men would give up a whole house, monthly money, and housemaid/s out of goodwill especially if she has kids from him, but no law would force him to do so.
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While interesting, I have my doubts that the minutiae of divorce law is what keeps young men from seeking out relationships (if that is even true) :messenger_winking:

OmegaSupreme said:
I don't think there's ever been a better time to be an "older man" I've gotten more attention from twenty-somethings in my 30's than I did in my 20's.
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Can confirm.

worldwithpyramids said:
So many people today just see a relationship as a headache that destroys your independence.
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Which is true, of course.
You are less independent in a relationship than alone. Obviously.
But it's not like you don't get anything for it. I'd call it a more than worthwhile trade, but then again, I might not be whatever the source describes as "young".

CrustyBritches said:
IIRC the study found that younger men and women's reduced consumption of alcohol in comparison to previous generations was the cited as the number 1 reason for lower amount of relationships.
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I, too, wouldn't want to date anyone I could only suffer when drunk.
 
You cannot ask me to choose between Games and sex, both are what make me feeling alive. I would be half a man if I should choose. My wife doesn't play videogames and she looks at me like I'm mad when I scream after something goes wrong during a final boss fight or any hard sequence, etc. She also asked me if videogames are better than sex sometimes...I have hesitated once, depends from the videogame ah ah :D
 
There are many reasons that contribute to this, and I believe finances are the least important.

Priorities are much different in the social media and Internet age. People are much more self focused and I think it has affected relationships. I'd also argue that the widespread availability of porn has also impacted men's ability to have healthy and satisfying relationships. I also think commitment to relationships has been declining. Marriage requires a much bigger commitment than simply living together because the latter can be abruptly ended with minimal consequences. Well, this reduced commitment is now even cascading to having relationships.

Edit: I'm married with three kids by the way. My wife hates video games and I play very little. However, I love her and my kids. I don't have much time anyway for video games with spending time with them and working.
 
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Terrible connection you can love your relationships and gaming it feels like this topic is trying to "choose" one another in actual real time some wise men believe you can have both options.
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When I see what expectations one need to meet to only date a 5, I can understand why one would rather not waste time to aim for a relation.

a friend of mine dated 300 woman within a year and it's just shocking (ok that's also not normal) what stories he can tell.
 
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