In Gaf? Yea. In general? Don't think it's hurting them too much.
But honestly speaking, what is the benefit/downside for Sony to allow cross play?
I'm asking because I want to know.
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ARK: Survival Evolved XO-PS4 crossplay working internally; Sony won't allow it
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In Gaf? Yea. In general? Don't think it's hurting them too much.
But honestly speaking, what is the benefit/downside for Sony to allow cross play?
I'm asking because I want to know.
this is mostly a neogaf/enthusiast forum thing
OdysseusVA
Banned
What a twist
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Yeah, their stance is pretty shitty and from a business standpoint, they don't need to move a finger - so they won't.
LordBaztion
Member
At least children are safe
Believe me, that's not my point at all. As said, I'm zealously pro cross-play. Fortnite was just the last high-profile instance of someone saying no before this Ark news (which you'll see I posted in the crossplay thread moments before this thread, cause I'm a saddo who is all over this like butter on toast
).It is? See alot of big sites constant picking this up. Sure doesnt help.
You're not actually confused.
Crossplay would be nice. My expectations for getting it are pretty low. These threads all play out in exactly the same way, and I'm out.
Fatal Futanari
Member
It is a very archaic mindset indeed but I get why they are doing it. Why open your gated ecosystem (from a business standpoint) if you don't need to? Eventually it will happen though. Sony can be a bit slow lol.
Cause none of that is going to change it. Something big (a benefit that they are missing out on) needs to happen with crossplay in order for Sony to actually look into it.
Sangetsu-II
Member
It's a lost battle guys...
The battle hasn't even started yet. This is going to become a much more prominent discussion before the year is out.
Believe me, that's not my point at all. As said, I'm zealously pro cross-play. Fortnite was just the last high-profile instance of someone saying no before this Ark news (which you'll see I posted in the crossplay thread moments before this thread, cause I'm a saddo who is all over this like butter on toast
Don't worry, I fully believe you. :]
That still doesn't mean they can't complain about that.
He meant to not buy Sony stuff, because they're the ones at fault here.
wapplew
Member
This.
Stop rewarding anti consumer company. Buy a Swtich or Xbox one X to reward the consumer friendly companies, send them a message.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Doesn't really matter how bad ARK is when that's not the point of this thread.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
Of course it's the usual suspects deflecting and defending Sony like they're a non profit PR firm.
You may want to reread my post though, unless you quoted it by mistake lol.
AZ Greg
Member
I really don't understand the "smart business move" argument.
I feel like the Xbox base is a certain type of gamer and the majority probably aren't looking to buy a PS4 anyway, so it's not going to hurt PS4 sales to allow it. On the other hand, for the large portion of gamers who aren't company fanboys, and actually go where the games are each generation, there are a lot like myself who have a PS4 now but had a 360 last generation. Due to that, I have a lot of friends I miss playing with on XBL and heavily consider buying an XBone to play things like Rocket League with them.
Sony can easily avoid me giving them that sale by giving the green light.
I feel like the Xbox base is a certain type of gamer and the majority probably aren't looking to buy a PS4 anyway, so it's not going to hurt PS4 sales to allow it. On the other hand, for the large portion of gamers who aren't company fanboys, and actually go where the games are each generation, there are a lot like myself who have a PS4 now but had a 360 last generation. Due to that, I have a lot of friends I miss playing with on XBL and heavily consider buying an XBone to play things like Rocket League with them.
Sony can easily avoid me giving them that sale by giving the green light.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Lol. They are not your friends, for heaven's sake.
Fatal Futanari
Member
Pretty much this. Stop buying the non crossplatform version if that feature means anything to you.
The average gamer doesnt really care about crossplay though. Sure they will go "Ah bummer! Can't play with my friend on PS4" but nothing to the extent of "stop being assholes Sony!". Until it actually causes a fuss, they won't do anything about it.
pretty done
Member
Why would they when people on PC, PS4 and XB1 eat this garbage up in the sad state it's in? Ugliest, shittiest running game I've ever seen. And it sells.
Sangetsu-II
Member
Unless MS willingly pay Sony to allow Cross-Play I don't see Sony giving away their market share.
reposting from the jimquisition thread
it's annoying we're already at that stage of the discussion where people are urging other people not to complain because "obviously nothing is gonna change". like, we got there fast.
it's annoying we're already at that stage of the discussion where people are urging other people not to complain because "obviously nothing is gonna change". like, we got there fast.
Jaded Alyx
Member
One of those things is not like the others.
Maybe not, but as I say, the big bombs are yet to drop. Once that Better Together update is out, people will talk about this issue again at a much increased volume.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
Yeah sorry, added you by accident.
Cross play with PC is going stronger than ever. Almost every multiplayer PSVR games are cross play (games that are on PC too of course).
Pc crossplay still works, nothing changed about that
They seemingly forbid Xbox contact. So if any other platform can touch Xbox Live at the same time as PSN, they won't allow it.
PC is fine. Switch is probably fine. PC or Switch that can also play with Xbox Live at the same time... no go.
PaulExcellent
Member
New account + negative Sony thread = Garbage combination.
Every time.
Not into ARK, but it's cool to see devs actively talking about the lack of crossplay, especially in survival multiplayer games where it's a pretty big deal playing with your friends.
Cross play is a feature that will be used more and more next time maybe even big titles like destiny etc are gonna do it and Minecraft will already soon.
They have to give in sooner or later because in the future exclusive console online play probably is no more (except for first party titles ofcourse and exclusive ones).
Fatal Futanari
Member
Pretty much. Another big step would be if PUBG took off on consoles and introduced crossplatform play.
Naw. I can post like a PR firm if you want. Just using common sense here.
Sangetsu-II
Member
Nah, Sony is good with almost all crossplay games on PC
If they already CrossPlay with PC and Switch (Dragon Quest X)
They don't really need to give in because they can just use that as an excuse. Is it anti consumer for xbox fans? Probably.
For PS4 fans? I don't think so because they already offer crossplay for other platforms like previously mentioned.
Maybe because it would be pretty cool to play with your friends on PC/One/Switch ?
I believe PU floated that by their playerbase and the PC crowd almost imploded. So while I'm hopeful... I'm thinking that may be a backburned project if it ever comes.
FinaruDensetsu
Member
Um what about Xbox players? You can't understand them wanting more people to play with?
TharpDaddy
Member
Seriously. It doesn't even need to go as far as buying a different console, but consumers should advocate for what is best for consumers. People like to post stuff like "I see why Sony is doing this, hard to get upset over it" -- why should I view this in the perspective of what is best for Sony? Blocking cross-play was shitty when Microsoft is doing it and now it's shitty when Sony is doing it. Hell if anything it's more shitty now since it's becoming more popular and Sony seems like the main roadblock.
Change this to a topic about Comcast's horrendous data caps and how many people would be posting stuff like "well I see why they do it from a business perspective" and trying to defend them?
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
This would benefit Sony just as much. I don't see the reason in not doing cross play with third party games?
folks are having an unrealistic fantasy where the end result is PSN and XBL being universal
Bits N Pieces
Member
What about if its an indie game or an old game that you love playing online but it has a small population?
See my man, he's made of straw. I strike at him thusly!
That's not what people are saying and you know it.
Lol I remember when people would snarkily and sarcastically post "Ball's in your court Sony" before we found out Sony were the ones actually holding up cross-play, back when we thought Microsoft were against cross-play.
Well, Microsoft's first-party isn't so hot but there's a reason I'm really enjoying their console. They're doing everything in their power, service-wise, to be extremely pro-consumer.
Well, Microsoft's first-party isn't so hot but there's a reason I'm really enjoying their console. They're doing everything in their power, service-wise, to be extremely pro-consumer.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
C'mon son
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EGOMON
Member
Lol shameless
AmuroChan
Member
How does that work? Is there some type of new unified Friends list? If I'm on PC and my friends are on Xbox and Switch, how do I invite them to form a party?