That's surprising. I wonder if a lot of people don't know about all the benefits of PS+ (i.e. IGC). I didn't a few years back when I was primarily on the 360. Still seems weird to me
Why wouldn't it?
Why wouldn't it?
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Same people every thread with the concern trolling not even realizing Live Gold has an even lower membership percentage on 360 the holy grail of online consoles. Online gaming is popular but yes most people will still play single player and local multi. The percentage of PS plus user will continue to go down to. Wasn't it around launch that it was over 90% the fact that it is going down is good news though. It means that more main stream consumers are picking up the system. I've had ps plus for 3 years and the only game I've played online was Shadowfall.
mcz117chief
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But, isn't Destiny online only ? That would mean that I would have to buy both Destiny and PS+ to start the game :/
Nightengale
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Around 35-38%. ( assuming one account for each console )
That's what you get when you're the defacto 'pirate console of choice.'
The percentage will get lower as more units are sold throughout this generation.
Sentenza
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Time to stop posting.
Go out, take a breath.
Obviously. But to say this is a low percentage when no other console could ever boast these kinds of numbers is kind of silly.
Considering what a deal PS+ is for what you get, I think this illustrates pretty neatly why Microsoft's dream of "always connected" consoles will never, ever happen. Broadband penetration simply isn't there yet, and I'm not sure it will ever be until new tech makes it easy and cheap for 90% of potential customers to have the speed of Internet necessary to make it happen.
I've been participating in online forums since the Usenet days, and I still don't fully understand what "concern trolling" is. My perception is it's a persecution complex people invent in their minds to THINK they are being trolled, to justify an irrational viewpoint.
I've been participating in online forums since the Usenet days, and I still don't fully understand what "concern trolling" is. My perception is it's a persecution complex people invent in their minds to THINK they are being trolled, to justify an irrational viewpoint.
It probably would it's always online after-all and it's not a f2p.
illmatic24
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That seems kind of low to me. It's 2014, most people are online (well, I'd imagine most who drop $400 on a console are) and I assume most like to at least attempt playing games online. So I figured the number would have been more like 70% or so. But apparently 50% is pretty high.
I wonder if this makes it more or less likely that we get some major PS4 games on PS+ after E3. Maybe less likely if these numbers are as good as everyone thinks. I'm just hoping for some free Knack. Come through for us, Sony.
I wonder if this makes it more or less likely that we get some major PS4 games on PS+ after E3. Maybe less likely if these numbers are as good as everyone thinks. I'm just hoping for some free Knack. Come through for us, Sony.
Ohh, you mean that it will require being online to play anything on it.
You got me there then. I thought the game had a "single player" campaign.
Don't Laugh
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online play behind a paywall is the reason i won't be buying a ps4 or xbone
I never said it was a low percentage. It's a good number that Sony should be very happy about.
I'm 90% sure it's always online that you can decide to play alone if you want (kind of like Diablo III on PC)
We are entering an age where SP doesn't always mean Offline.
They are two different things just like MP doesn't always mean online (offline split screen etc....)
No but neither would I call Indie games "bargain bin" when prices vary from title to title.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Yes, they occasionally do.
Oh, he means full price as in full $59 retail? What an arbitrary standard, considering how games are debuting on the system through PS+ as new.
Didn't realize not retail = bargain bin. The GAF crusade against downloadable titles is getting really weird.
Sorry, but I do not believe that ANYONE is paying gold just for the streaming apps...
So I do not think much will change when the paywall falls.
Agreed. Sony thinking giving out Steam games justifies paying money for their meager service and to make things worse, you got PS fans in this thread trying to defend it. Amusing. On the other hand, you got MS trying to help gamers out by dropping the paywall from apps, giving Games with Gold, and other goodies. Shows MS's complete understanding of the market at large and it should translate into goodwill into sales.
IncandescentPrecept
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Not sure how you get that most people are online. There's still a lot of people who only care about playing FIFA in couch co-op or other single player games.
mcz117chief
Member
I really am not sure, just what I heard. I do plan to play in the on-line environment of the game too so I guess I will get the PS+ regardless
Half of the PS4 install base is roughly 3.5 million people. The PS4 launched 6 months ago.
That number is the opposite of low.
Oh you know how it is,
they don't "count" unless they serve your argument...
Cool if they include indies in it (although I hope they get proper compensation for it)
Ok make up your mind.
Ok so now that MSFT is not willing to bleed you dry after years and years of doing just so, they're the good guys?
It's definitely lower than you think. Last gen on the 360 it was around 30% gold.
The numbers on the XBone this gen are probably a lot higher to start with due to it being a brick without that hefty day 1 update, their big title being an online only multiplayer only thing, etc. I imagine it'll converge back downwards as the gen carries on though.
IncandescentPrecept
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Give me an example of a "Steam" game.
AmethystEnd
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You are just absolutely fantastic in every thread I find you in.
KoopaTheCasual
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Your sarcasm will only fall on deaf ears here. I haven't seen Interceptor fight for anything that doesn't have a big Nintendo logo plastered on it.
Or you could read the second half of my comment. Your choice.
Acquiescence
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I think the online paywall would've bothered me more if I wasn't a PS+ subscriber during the E3 announcement and when I eventually got my PS4. Keeping an eye out for deals so that I never have to pay the full £40 every year certainly helps as well.
This fucking guy, lol. He always hooks someone.
This fucking guy, lol. He always hooks someone.
Nightengale
Member
You're assuming non-subscribers even care about 'what a deal' that PS+ is.
If I was a betting man, I'd put my coin on them simply not wanting to pay the $50 PS+ fee instead of any connectivity issues.
I'm convinced they'll fall.
The XBL gold sub was basically you paying for access to the device's features.
Standard features like chat, Netflix, Hulu, other apps, internet, twitter, youtube, etcetera.
I honestly don't think that everyone just kept paying just to access online multiplayer. The 360 is useless and barebones without Gold, now that it isn't anymore come June, I think lots of people will leave their subscriptions at the door.
People continuously overstate the fraction of the market that's invested heavily in online multiplayer, in my opinion.
quickwhips
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Outlast and Resogun are the only really good games I have got so far on PS+. The rest have been garbage IMHO. Resogun is the only online game worth playing on PS+ since I feel like Killzone community has shrunk and Battlefield has had to many problems and COD: Ghost is the worst COD game. Props to Sony with all these negatives and still getting 50% of the people to pay for plus.
SeventhSon
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I have PS+... PS3 only.
Ludicrous Speed
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Any comparions with Xbox Live? I'd guess a higher percentage pay for Xbox Live since it's been around a lot longer and all online multiplayer is locked behind it
TangibleDream
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Claude Kenni
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I'm not sure I agree with the direct comparisons to the 360's sub numbers. I personally find this number lower than I expected and I'm not sure why such an interpretation is being rejected, it's not an insult or one bit a desperate attempt to be negative like some seem to think. I just don't see it as something unquestionably very very good. Sure it's higher than 360 numbers but do we know what the Xbox One percentage is like? We probably should before saying "no other console could ever boast these kinds of numbers".
I mostly thought it would be higher because of the report that over 90% of PS4s are connected to the Internet. Along with the fact that early adopters seem to be more likely to sub and play online than others, meaning the number will likely drop. It just seems weird to me that half an install base won't be able to even try a game online when a vast majority of the install base is connected to the Internet.
I mostly thought it would be higher because of the report that over 90% of PS4s are connected to the Internet. Along with the fact that early adopters seem to be more likely to sub and play online than others, meaning the number will likely drop. It just seems weird to me that half an install base won't be able to even try a game online when a vast majority of the install base is connected to the Internet.
3rdamention
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What? I dont play online much at all, definitely not regularly. Meanwhile, I am paid up through 2018 with PlayStation Plus (that awesome black friday deal last year) because I love the Instant Game Collection and sale prices I get as a member, and consider that a great value alone.
ethomaz
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For what? It is not essential... just required if you want to play some MP games.
outunderthestars
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This. I really have lost all interest in multiplayer gaming thanks to party chat ruining ensuring that nobody is communicating in games. I have plus for the free PS3 games, but so far the ps4 offerings have been garbage. If I only owned a ps4 I wouldnt subscribe to Plus at this point.
Ok, this was pretty good.
Anyway, I don't subscribe to PS+. I don't play multiplayer games, and I just don't have time to play many games period, except very specific games that I want. Very rarely is such a game released on PS+. I have no reason to pay the $50 and apparently neither does half of the PS4 userbase. I find it astonishing so many people have a hard time understanding this.
protonion
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PS Plus is way too good deal to put online gaming behind it.
What's better? 50% Plus subs or 30% and the entire PS4 userbase having mp access (and more dlc sales etc).
Besides with the free games I doubt they make that much money. I believe they pay developers for each download.
What's better? 50% Plus subs or 30% and the entire PS4 userbase having mp access (and more dlc sales etc).
Besides with the free games I doubt they make that much money. I believe they pay developers for each download.
molnizzle
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...kinda like every online game, you mean?
The only games that don't require PS+ are f2p and/or MMO's that require their own separate subscription (like FFXIV and Elder Scrolls Online). Everything else requires PS+ for online.
All I'm going to say - in case my sarcasm detector's just missing the obvious here - is that on the evidence of the last 12 months I struggle to believe the bolded in any way applies to MS understanding of the videogame console market.
I will agree they are working to fix said understanding though.
Oh look you're here. Not unexpected.
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