Future games not for Watch Dogs. If a game in future for XSX for example only achieves 30fps at 4K you will find it difficult or even impossible to get 60fps at 4K at ultra on a 3090. The gap between the consoles and top GPUs isn't big enough for a >2x rasterization improvement which is what you would be asking for at ultra settings.
Let's determine whether or not you're right.
The 3070 is 20 Ampere teraflops and is equal in performance to the 2080Ti, which is 14.21 Turing teraflops. Hence, we can conclude that an Ampere teraflop is 0.71 Turing teraflops (14.2/20 = 0.71) and that the RTX 3080 and RTX 3090 are 21.3 Turing teraflops and 25.56 Turing teraflops, respectively.
We know that the Xbox Series X is nearly equivalent to the 2080Ti in performance, which means that its performance is nearly equal to 14.2 Turing teraflops.
Hence, we can conclude that the RTX 3080 and the RTX 3090 are 1.5 times and 1.8 times, respectively, as powerful as the Xbox Series X in terms of graphical prowess.
So, I guess that you were right; neither card is over twice as powerful as the Xbox Series X.
And even if both cards were exactly 2x more powerful than the XSX they would still require more than that to play at ultra and 60fps.
We are getting the 2x series X gpu perf reveal from AMD tomorrow. Lets see how that compares to 3080.Let's determine whether or not you're right.
The 3070 is 20 Ampere teraflops and is equal in performance to the 2080Ti, which is 14.21 Turing teraflops. Hence, we can conclude that an Ampere teraflop is 0.71 Turing teraflops (14.2/20 = 0.71) and that the RTX 3080 and RTX 3090 are 21.3 Turing teraflops and 25.56 Turing teraflops, respectively.
We know that the Xbox Series X is nearly equivalent to the 2080Ti in performance, which means that its performance is nearly equal to 14.2 Turing teraflops.
Hence, we can conclude that the RTX 3080 and the RTX 3090 are 1.5 times and 1.8 times, respectively, as powerful as the Xbox Series X in terms of graphical prowess.
So, I guess that you were right; neither card is over twice as powerful as the Xbox Series X.
I forgot about Nvidia's secret weapon: DLSS.And even if both cards were exactly 2x more powerful than the XSX they would still require more than that to play at ultra and 60fps.
We are getting the 2x series X gpu perf reveal from AMD tomorrow. Lets see how that compares to 3080.
I'm not sure you realise, but what you're basically saying is that 6800 XT is ~50% faster than 3080. I highly doubt that.
I forgot about Nvidia's secret weapon: DLSS.
Looking at those 2 cards i could do 13x3 curls for 3 sets a day and have this bodyI'm a bit disappointed by the results of my calculations. I conducted them not knowing what the results would indicate. Having said that, I'm still happy that I have both an RTX 3080 and 3090.
Let's determine whether or not you're right.
The 3070 is 20 Ampere teraflops and is equal in performance to the 2080Ti, which is 14.21 Turing teraflops. Hence, we can conclude that an Ampere teraflop is 0.71 Turing teraflops (14.2/20 = 0.71) and that the RTX 3080 and RTX 3090 are 21.3 Turing teraflops and 25.56 Turing teraflops, respectively.
We know that the Xbox Series X is nearly equivalent to the 2080Ti in performance, which means that its performance is nearly equal to 14.2 Turing teraflops.
Hence, we can conclude that the RTX 3080 and the RTX 3090 are 1.5 times and 1.8 times, respectively, as powerful as the Xbox Series X in terms of graphical prowess.
So, I guess that you were right; neither card is over twice as powerful as the Xbox Series X.
Good god, look at those animations and physics. And it does literally look like a 360 gen game uprezed. Pathetic
Ooh - Bee - SoftJesus, if RDR2 isn't an issue then what the hell is this game's problem?
It fucking isn't
Article said:Digital Foundry also got to see the Gears 5 benchmark running on the Xbox Series X and performance was almost identical to a PC equipped with an AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950x and GeForce RTX 2080 Ti graphics card. So yeah, at least when it comes to running current-gen games, Microsoft’s new console stands up to (almost) the best PC hardware you can get.
I'm a bit disappointed by the results of my calculations. I conducted them not knowing what the results would indicate. Having said that, I'm still happy that I have both an RTX 3080 and 3090.
Odd behavior? I've blamed the poor performance on bad code, not insufficient hardware. I think that this game should be child's play for the RTX 3090 since the RTX 3090 can run RDR2 with ease even though RDR2 looks better than this game.Not as happy as you seem to be making this topic. Kind of odd behavior for someone that just spent over a couple thousand $$ on new GPUs.
They are real, watch dogs 2 animations were mostly trash, especially during combat.Those animations can't be real. Like, seriously shocked if true and final.
Consider the following article.
Gears 5 Xbox Series X Digital Foundry Analysis Shows Leap Over XB1X, RTX 2080 Ti Performance
A Gears 5 demo thrown together in only two weeks already shows impressive high-end PC level performance. Check it out for yourself.wccftech.com
They are real, watch dogs 2 animations were mostly trash, especially during combat.
Dude, try to shoot people in wd2, animations are stiffer than a pornstar dick.It wasn't great in WD2. But in this video, it looks even worse. Extremely stiff animations, dudes running against objects without any reaction....
We will know for sure in two days when it releases.
digital foundry never said that. That wccftech is a piece of shit website. DF said the Gears 5 demo ran a bit bellow a regular 2080. Its nowhere close to a 2080ti
Source? The Gears 5 demo ran at 4k60 PC ultra settings + some extra UE4 features.
Source? The Gears 5 demo ran at 4k60 PC ultra settings + some extra UE4 features.
Don't expect 60fps at 4K for many future games at ultra settings on these cards.
What a ridiculous and unnecessary socio-political post. Please keep social politics out of this thread.
Starting from 11:00 listen very carefully.
So, what's the argument for buying a PC instead of PS5/XSX?
1. Customizable settings
2. Modable graphics
3. More graphical power (and even more when new cards become available)
4. Higher frequency of discounts on games
5. Free online gameplay
6. Greater longevity of online servers
7. Access to Adult Only games
8. More benefits that I can't recall or am not aware of
LOL @ barely. That's a very inaccurate word.I'm currently a PC gamer and I understand all these arguments, my problem is the idea that you can spend 1500 dollars on a fancy GPU and barely out-perform the new consoles, if you outperform them at all at that.
LOL @ barely. That's a very inaccurate word.
1. This is one game and is thus far an anomaly.
2. I'm pretty sure that the RTX 3090 can still run it with otherwise much higher settings than consoles consistently at 60 frames per second. More than likely the lowering of just one or two settings from Ultra to Very High would enable the RTX 3090 to run the game consistently at 60 frames per second while still rendering it with significantly better graphics.
3. DLSS would enable the RTX 3090 to render the game at 1440p with Ultra settings and upscale it to 4K with quality that is indistinguishable from native 4K; hence, the performance would be even greater than 60 frames per second.
I'm currently a PC gamer and I understand all these arguments, my problem is the idea that you can spend 1500 dollars on a fancy GPU and barely out-perform the new consoles, if you outperform them at all at that.
None of that makes me feel like this is a great 1500 dollar purchase.
The RTX 3090 was never advertised as a valuable purchase for gaming, which is why Nvidia declared that the RTX 3080 is their new flagship GPU. The RTX 3090 is a card that is primarily for production work but that can also render games very well due to being a bit more powerful than the new flagship.
I bought it because I was enamored with the collasal amount of VRAM, which should come in handy when editing videos in Movie Studio Platinum 17 (and when enabling Ultra quality textures in games at 4K), and because it's more powerful than the RTX 3080 to a degree that it can render certain games with certain settings at a consistent 60 frames per second or more while the RTX 3080 cannot (e.g. Control at 4K with maximum settings [including ray tracing] via DLSS 2.0).
$1500....I guess I can be happy a $400-$500 console can run it at 4k at all.
The 3080 is still 200 dollars more than a new console at base price, though.