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At What point do you consider yourself an Alcoholic?

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I'll have a few beers while playing games after the kids go to bed. I play games every night.

Guess I'm an alcoholic.

presses submit while taking a swig of beer, so good
 
on an addiction scale of 1 to 10, I am a 0
yeah I drink socially and may purposefully get drunk at special events but I never crave alcohol at all.

when I crave, I crave water, soft-drinks, sugar but never alcohol

*drinking alone is pathetic IMO
 
You're an alcoholic if drinking becomes more important to you than obvious important things in life. Losing your spouse/job due to your drinking is a major sign.
 
when you make random post like this in OT?

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Necroscope said:
When you drink alone at home.

Well I'm in trouble then. This is one of my favourite things to do.

A good video game or movie, a case of beer or bottle of whiskey, and the house to myself for an entire day. Pure fucking heaven.
 
I see it as too many units a week, or over each day.

My father is easily an Alcoholic, he doesn't get wasted (probably semi-immune to the damn stuff now) but he will drink 2-3 cans a day nearly every day, and if there is only a few cans in the house he will probably pad it out with cider.

Last summer we had a big problem when he drove back home completely wasted, my mum got upset and my dad lost it and punched me in the face twice, I still not fully forgiven him, I never told anyone about it before.

Since then though his drinking has changed, he still has cans but my mother forces him to have low alcohol cans or cheaper ones, and if something bad happens again I can see my mum leaving him as the final straw :/
 
Gantz said:
When you rely on alcohol to function in a social setting :lol

I do this a bit if the social setting is a party/club. but I don't have trouble socialising outside these settings without alcohol.

I think i've 'programmed' myself to get drunk in these situations through repitition. I can't go to a bar and sip cola and chat to people, I get bored.
 
Looking back at my mother:

1)Starts to drink more, intentionally causes fights with dad as I turn 12.
2)Steps outside mother role, offers to buy booze, adult mags, details how unhappy she is suddenly. Unwanted details.
3)Has an affair, splits family with divorce.
4)Increases drinking consumption with enabler new husband
5)Starts fights with new husband making it hard for us to sleep and be ready for school.
6)Five years of inane hateful late night calls when I move to my dads that makes no sense, obvious regret at leaving our dad. Next morning calls of sucking up, offering to buy something.
7)The bars, DUI arrests start. Plays divide and conquer with us siblings, tells blatant lies. At this point her life story needs constant drama, how bad the world has treated her. Large amounts of wine are not enough moves to hardcore liquor. Divorces second husband.
8)Can get physical if confronted with drinking. Refuses anything is wrong, three attempted interventions fail. Told to let her go by professionals. Seems to be combining pills with booze. Ruins every holiday, hidden liquor all over and in coffee.
9)Last I heard she has had a string of bad boyfriends, burnt her kitchen down once, lost two jobs and is still blaming everyone else for all her problems while we are bad children to some folks that dont really know her and what she has all done.
 
When I drink, its normally alone, because I don't want to go out and drink, and then have to drive home. Plus, bar people are fucking annoying.
 
madara said:
Looking back at my mother:

1)Starts to drink more, intentionally causes fights with dad as I turn 12.
2)Steps outside mother role, offers to buy booze, adult mags, details how unhappy she is suddenly. Unwanted details.
3)Has an affair, splits family with divorce.
4)Increases drinking consumption with enabler new husband
5)Starts fights with new husband making it hard for us to sleep and be ready for school.
6)Five years of inane hateful late night calls when I move to my dads that makes no sense, obvious regret at leaving our dad. Next morning calls of sucking up, offering to buy something.
7)The bars, DUI arrests start. Plays divide and conquer with us siblings, tells blatant lies. At this point her life story needs constant drama, how bad the world has treated her. Large amounts of wine are not enough moves to hardcore liquor. Divorces second husband.
8)Can get physical if confronted with drinking. Refuses anything is wrong, three attempted interventions fail. Told to let her go by professionals. Seems to be combining pills with booze. Ruins every holiday, hidden liquor all over and in coffee.
9)Last I heard she has had a string of bad boyfriends, burnt her kitchen down once, lost two jobs and is still blaming everyone else for all her problems while we are bad children to some folks that dont really know her and what she has all done.

Holy shit dude...
 
in all seriousness though this thread has woken me up, because I have been drinking a lot lately, usually by myself, at home.. nearly every day.

I need to get my act together before I jepordize both school and work. Thanks GAF
 
Ferrio said:
When you regularly drink alone.


This...and if you cant help but get drunk when you hang out with friends. It's okay to have a few drinks, depends on your tolerance, but if you have to drink to the point where you have a buzz you may have a problem.

There's different types of alcoholics (I've been to AA and other programs). Some alcoholics can function and have a job but they are still alcoholics, these are functioning alcoholics...then there's people that drink all day and dont do shit.

But drinking alone is definitely a sign that you're an alky

oxrock said:
You're an alcoholic if drinking becomes more important to you than obvious important things in life. Losing your spouse/job due to your drinking is a major sign.

This too, I've lost some cool chicks because I'm a sloppy drunk


edit-i'm still an alcoholic lol
 
Kastro said:
in all seriousness though this thread has woken me up, because I have been drinking a lot lately, usually by myself, at home.. nearly every day.

I need to get my act together before I jepordize both school and work. Thanks GAF

that's nice. :)
I have a horrible hang-over :(
 
I drink every day, at least a couple beers, usually a beer and then a couple mixed drinks. I get drunk maybe once a month.

I've thought many times.... what constitutes alcoholism? I drink EVERY DAY, but rarely if ever get drunk, and getting drunk is NEVER my goal.
 
According to the World Health organisation, alohol gets dangerous for your health at 21 doses per week (standard glasses served in bar equal 1 dose). I guess you are an alcoholic when you top that all the time and when alcohol gets in the way of other activities like socializing, work and so on.

I don't think drinking alone can be a pointer to it, there's no problem downing a beer or a glass of liquor when coming home from work to chill out.

As for myself, i can pass weeks and weeks without drinking alcohol with my fridge loaded with beers so I guess I'm okay on that front. Weed on the other hand...
 
Mar_ said:
Well I'm in trouble then. This is one of my favourite things to do.

A good video game or movie, a case of beer or bottle of whiskey, and the house to myself for an entire day. Pure fucking heaven.

I do this too sometimes, and it's awesome. Sure i go out and spend time with people, but sometimes it's just nice to get home from work, silence the phone, crack open a beer, pop in a movie or game, and take it easy.

I also love jumping on an xbox party with friends and having a few while I play.

I don't think there's anything wrong with drinking alone, as long as you're not getting wasted or letting it effect other aspects of your life. I feel like tons of people have a few beers after work and as long as it doesn't interfere with or hurt their well being or relationships, I dont' see it as "pathetic."
 
ChrisGoldstein said:
But drinking alone is definitely a sign that you're an alky

I don't think so necessarily. What if you just don't have any friends? :(

Also, I wouldn't call winding down a long day with a drink by yourself a sign that you're an alcoholic. Sometimes it's just more convenient to drink by yourself than go out to a bar or whatever.
 
Drey1082 said:
I don't think there's anything wrong with drinking alone, as long as you're not getting wasted or letting it effect other aspects of your life. I feel like tons of people have a few beers after work and as long as it doesn't interfere with or hurt their well being or relationships, I dont' see it as "pathetic."
Yeah, I don't think people who advocate drinking alone as a danger sign have really considered what that means. Mind you, if you're the type of person who comes home and thinks to himself "well, I SHOULD pay my bills, as they're past due, OR I could down all the vodka in my liquor cabinet and stare at the ceiling... let's go with the latter" then yeah, you probably have a problem.

But if it's just a matter of wanting to enjoy a couple of drinks in the evening, it seems completely arbitrary to require that someone else be there with you, lest you be regarded as a drunk. "I really want to have a beer while I watch the game, but I can't unless I can rope someone else into coming over to watch it -- then it's okay!"
 
Kastro said:
I don't think so necessarily. What if you just don't have any friends? :(

Also, I wouldn't call winding down a long day with a drink by yourself a sign that you're an alcoholic. Sometimes it's just more convenient to drink by yourself than go out to a bar or whatever.


I guess it can be a more responsible way to be an alcolic. I could go out and drink but then it costs more and you have to worry about driving home.

I dont have many friends either but I almost killed myself in a wreck a few years ago so I drink at home. The problem is I'm very high strung so drinking puts me to sleep so I can go to work the next day.

I didnt drink last night and I was up late as hell, plus I have crazy dreams...like I was on an airplane crashing...deep shit.

I hate dreams that's the main reason I like to drink at night. I never drink early because of work.
 
ChrisGoldstein said:
The problem is I'm very high strung so drinking puts me to sleep so I can go to work the next day.

dude, we are the same person. that's how I started out but lately I've been starting drinking earlier in the day. I have a problem though, I recognize that. I just haven't been bold enough to do anything about it.

I'm stuck in a horrible loop where I drink because I'm depressed but alcohol is a depressive substance and makes me more depressed in the end.
 
Steve Youngblood said:
Yeah, I don't think people who advocate drinking alone as a danger sign have really considered what that means. Mind you, if you're the type of person who comes home and thinks to himself "well, I SHOULD pay my bills, as they're past due, OR I could down all the vodka in my liquor cabinet and stare at the ceiling... let's go with the latter" then yeah, you probably have a problem.

But if it's just a matter of wanting to enjoy a couple of drinks in the evening, it seems completely arbitrary to require that someone else be there with you, lest you be regarded as a drunk. "I really want to have a beer while I watch the game, but I can't unless I can rope someone else into coming over to watch it -- then it's okay!"

Nah, having a few drinks alone to unwind is cool. Staying home and getting smashed and wallowing in misery is where the problem lies.
 
Kastro said:
dude, we are the same person. that's how I started out but lately I've been starting drinking earlier in the day. I have a problem though, I recognize that. I just haven't been bold enough to do anything about it.

I'm stuck in a horrible loop where I drink because I'm depressed but alcohol is a depressive substance and makes me more depressed in the end.

Red fucking alert
 
Kastro said:
in all seriousness though this thread has woken me up, because I have been drinking a lot lately, usually by myself, at home.. nearly every day.

I need to get my act together before I jepordize both school and work. Thanks GAF
9 weeks here. The first 2 will be pretty hard.
 
If you have to ask yourself, you probably have a problem.

I had a friend who used to create "tests" for herself. "If I can go two weeks without drinking, I'm not an alcoholic." Big red flag there.
 
Karakand said:
9 weeks here. The first 2 will be pretty hard.

Is it the sleeping that's the hardest part? That's what I fear. When I didn't drink before sleeping I had a really hard time getting to sleep and I'd have really crazy/scary dreams and wake up in a warm sweat. :(
 
Kastro said:
Is it the sleeping that's the hardest part? That's what I fear. When I didn't drink before sleeping I had a really hard time getting to sleep and I'd have really crazy/scary dreams and wake up in a warm sweat. :(
I'm probably not the best one to ask about that... I didn't sleep much before so the fact that I'm not after isn't much to go on. Cravings were what was a pain in the ass for me. As was the fact most of my known associates are drinkers.
 
Kastro said:
Is it the sleeping that's the hardest part? That's what I fear. When I didn't drink before sleeping I had a really hard time getting to sleep and I'd have really crazy/scary dreams and wake up in a warm sweat. :(
The dreams are the worst, but temporary, it's because the alcohol has been suppressing the brain's dream center and now that the alcohol isn't present it's going hog-wild.
 
i never understood the "drinking alone=alcoholic" thing. that's a silly myth to me

as for me, i have about 4 beers a day, and much more if i'm out partying, so i probably am alky trash scum of the earth.
 
Mar_ said:
Well I'm in trouble then. This is one of my favourite things to do.

A good video game or movie, a case of beer or bottle of whiskey, and the house to myself for an entire day. Pure fucking heaven.

TESTIFY.

Could not agree more. Saturday/Sunday is for friends and family. Friday night is for me to drink beer by myself and watch either a film or catch up on everything I didn't get a chance to watch during the week.

It really is 'me time'.

Last Friday? Five bottles of Czech beer and (among others) the first three episodes of Eastbound and Down.

As the poster above said.....

Mar_ said:
Pure fucking heaven.
 
catfish said:
I do this a bit if the social setting is a party/club. but I don't have trouble socialising outside these settings without alcohol.

I think i've 'programmed' myself to get drunk in these situations through repitition. I can't go to a bar and sip cola and chat to people, I get bored.

This.

Part of the issue is that everyone else is drinking, and generally, conversations between sober and non-sober people get pretty lame for the non-drinker.

You basically have to drink if you want to stay in such a setting for any given amount of time. That, or go nuts.
 
madara said:
Looking back at my mother:

1)Starts to drink more, intentionally causes fights with dad as I turn 12.
2)Steps outside mother role, offers to buy booze, adult mags, details how unhappy she is suddenly. Unwanted details.
3)Has an affair, splits family with divorce.
4)Increases drinking consumption with enabler new husband
5)Starts fights with new husband making it hard for us to sleep and be ready for school.
6)Five years of inane hateful late night calls when I move to my dads that makes no sense, obvious regret at leaving our dad. Next morning calls of sucking up, offering to buy something.
7)The bars, DUI arrests start. Plays divide and conquer with us siblings, tells blatant lies. At this point her life story needs constant drama, how bad the world has treated her. Large amounts of wine are not enough moves to hardcore liquor. Divorces second husband.
8)Can get physical if confronted with drinking. Refuses anything is wrong, three attempted interventions fail. Told to let her go by professionals. Seems to be combining pills with booze. Ruins every holiday, hidden liquor all over and in coffee.
9)Last I heard she has had a string of bad boyfriends, burnt her kitchen down once, lost two jobs and is still blaming everyone else for all her problems while we are bad children to some folks that dont really know her and what she has all done.

Fuck man ... sorry to hear this. :(


The sad thing, it actually reads like a by-the-book case of alcoholism and its effects on a family. Fuck.
 
Generally, when something has power over you, it becoms a problem and an addicition.

1. Does the thing (alchohol) cause you to make poor decision?
2. Is it difficult to give the thing up for a small amount of time?

If they answer to either question is 'yes' then you have a problem that should be dealt with, even if its not textbook achoholism.

Try giving it up for the rest of lent. It will prove to yourself that you have control over it, rather than it controlling you.
 
Xeke said:
What if you're just really really bored? I know my freshman year in school I was the last person to leave for thanksgiving break and I left the morning after everyone already left. I was the only person in the building, no car, no friends left at school and all I had to do was drink and smoke weed.:lol

Exactly. I often drink with my roommates, but there have been quite a few nights they either were not here or didn't want to drink, so I went for it anyway. I just watch comedy shows or movies and enjoy, it's not like I was sitting in a dark room, salting the beer with my tears.
 
Yeah, I don't think drinking by yourself can make a case for you being an alcoholic. Alcoholics drink alone more than normal, but a lot of people drink by themselves who aren't alcoholics.

It has far more to do with whether you are physically dependent on it or not. So basically its more like the people who said it starts when you drink to feel better.
 
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