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Atlus USA kills rumors | no PC & Switch versions of Persona 5 & Yakuza 0
- Thread starter PrinceOfWhatever
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A rumor by definition has no facts. If its backed by facts it ceases being a rumor.
DangerMouse
Member
Labels that have been proven wrong and mislabeled in the past?
DangerMouse
Member
Okay not known facts c'mon you know what I mean, credible info for example, Laura's supposed leaks have trusted insider sources. There aren't even any trusted sources even vaguely hinting at other versions for these three games.
Edit: sorry for double post
GhostTrick
Banned
Depends. On boxarts, it remains to be seen. If you're talking about that video, right. Then again, I'm not stating something is happening. But you're claiming it came out of nowhere. I'm saying it didn't and there's a reason why these titles, Yakuza 0 in particular, are being discussed.
Same reason you are still here. We both own a gaming pc and PS4 yet people fighting over porting draws us here.
Atlus and Sega don't follow reason. You and other westerners are applying logic to Japanese companies that just don't give a fuck.
Again
This is Altus/Sega we are talking about. They can't even put vanquish on the pc yet yah are going ham over Yakuza.
I never seen that side because I don't care for those games. I believe it though. Gaming side is rough
DangerMouse
Member
I didn't say you in particular have said something is or likely is happening nor do I have any desire to go back through this thread for it, but it has happened a number of times.
Poetic.Injustice
Member
Is there any other third party publisher from Japan left besides Atlus who have not released an internally developed game on Steam? With Gust now joining the bandwagon it really is just Atlus left.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Again, I don't think this is strictly true. P5 was specifically picked for that bizarre ad that Sony Japan ran for the PS4 pricedrop. It'll be interesting to see if the USA branch picks up any of the marketing slack. Doubt it, but certainly within the realm of the possible.
The latter quote is a valid viewpoint, the former is ridiculous and stupid.
I am struggling to think of one, but I think all significant Japanese publishers are on board except for Atlus.
It's no wonder they're the target of platform warrior ire when you have unusual companies like Idea Factory and tiny companies like ASW dropping loads of their games on Steam like it's going out of style and Atlus is just sitting there lol.
Yea the releases are random. I bought Valkyria chronicles literally on PS3, PS4, and PC because I am stupid enough to believe that if I support them we will get the rest on platforms other than a psp but nah fam. That is why I stop applying logic to Sega. They are old in their ways but that is life
I actually just about everything sega on steam. 7flow or TheFlow should be my steam name if anyone wants to look me up.
DangerMouse
Member
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see, also given the talk around the time of that old TGS that Sony helped push for the PS4 version to happen.
Crimsonsky
Member
Agreed. Honestly, they should be porting VC2 and 3, the new spin off and Persona 5 to our anxiously awaiting rigs. Probably Persona 4 Golden as well. I mean port that stuff and we will buy it in droves as VC proved. I have all three copies of the game. Honestly I've paid my dues give me the rest of it you bastards.
Atlus has always been weird with their platform choices. SMT has been Nintendo exclusive for a decade, Persona 4 for the PS2 in 2008, and they made a fucking Virtual Boy game.
I mean Catherine came to the Xbox 360 which was the test run for Persona 5 but P5 didn't come to Xbox 360 or the Xbone. Also P4 Arena came to the 360 as well. And then there's SMT: Nine: An OG Xbox Japanese exclusive.
I mean Catherine came to the Xbox 360 which was the test run for Persona 5 but P5 didn't come to Xbox 360 or the Xbone. Also P4 Arena came to the 360 as well. And then there's SMT: Nine: An OG Xbox Japanese exclusive.
Poetic.Injustice
Member
Even though Sega have bought out Atlus, they are still separate entities. Atlus published Persona 5 in Japan, so the decision of a port lies with them.
Well its not like that he didnt try but if you have japanese CEO's who knows what's best regardless if true or not or give zero fucks about your input you are fucked.
Pretty much. I am now along the lines of " I believe it when I see it"
But it is good to talk to a rational poster. I think I will take your advice and leave this thread. Not much for me to add.
Chopper Dave
Member
Heh what a funny thing to say. We're talking about playing a videogame here. Persona 5 will still be there years later. Do my playing habits have to seriously take into consideration my unexpected death? I take it some snatch up the marshmallow the instant it's offered but patience is a healthy thing. I'll wait for a possible switch "Golden" version for a couple years as I've mentioned. Worst case is I eventually buy the original release when I've waited enough. This way of course comes with the benefit with reduced price of the console and game.
the only people in this forum using such terms are, ironically, console fanboys, yelling at some sort of imaginary people that are not present in the thread.
I don't think so. If you want to make the argument they would have greater success or find more users on the platform you like, that's one thing its explaining pros to the viewpoint. But being biased because it just so happens to be your preferred platform irrespective of any cons against said platform is dumb.
Like i see people talking about Vita and Switch despite Vita being on its way out and Switch not even being a proven properly yet. That doesn't make any kind of sense to me.
DangerMouse
Member
This. I thought it was kind of expected by now.
And Switch doesn't even "exist" yet, nor did it exist for most of P5's development.
Agreed, it's weird but like Flow said, they are unpredictable and kind of random.
Also, while Sega may have said that, they treat Atlus as a separate entity, they are allowing them to run themselves and decide for themselves.
Thinly veiled system wars.
The Mad Draklor
Member
orthodoxy1095
Banned
What you just said does little to explain how "I only hold onto my PS4 cause so it collects dust, refuse to support PS4 titles cause they are currently Playstation only" is a valid viewpoint.
If you have a console that's collecting dust, sell it. If there are games you're interested in playing, play them. If you're refusing to play games on the system that's reportedly collecting dust because they're [insert system] only, you're a fool that has lost the right to complain about your unused system. Especially when we're dealing with currently niche games like Yakuza, the way to help them grow isn't to whine and refuse to buy the game. You'd be far better off helping the franchise grow by buying some copies, throwing them around to friends to garner more interest and also complain about a lack of ports.
Not clicking the link because the stupid song will get stuck in my head, but if that's a link to the video with a woman dressed up as Ichiyo Higuchi singing about Persona 5, then yes.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
This narrative needs to stop as well. Let's not use revisionist history and pretend that there are members of PC-GAF who purport the PC Master race mentality, even if not explicitly using the word itself. There are just as many PC fanboys on these boards as there are Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft fanboys and all act as bad as each other.
I even saw a popular PC-gaffer talk about his disdain for consoles in the controversial opinions thread. A nonsense assertion considering how much of the industry those same devices are propping up right now. But I digress, this thread is something else.
Man this ad always makes me chuckle.
Thank you, I didn't read it on it's time but I'm glad I'm not off on my understanding of the rule.
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
I bet if we have an official system wars thread, it'll reach 10k in less than a day.
DangerMouse
Member
I never said it was a valid viewpoint?? Where did i say that?
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Try two hours. Real life preview of what such a thread would look like:
I'm not kidding. Just thinking about the video got some snippets of the song stuck in my head. Biggest earworm of any recent video ad for me.
Reread your post where you wrote that sentence. You wrote that sentence and then followed up about it not being a "ridiculous viewpoint for people to be annoyed at Atlus living in the 1990s," insinuating that such a view was valid.
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
Try two hours. Real life preview of what such a thread would look like:
Who's gonna be the Regina George of GAF?
I said it was not a ridiculous viewpoint for people to be annoyed at Atlus's practices in regards to platform exclusivity. The two examples i posted before that were examples of dumb statements that should not derail the overall discussion or legitimate opinions of those who feel Atlus games should go to other platforms.
Pretty much. Tho I wouldnt mind if that stuff was just contained but eh i guess it comes with any hobby.
There is no discussion on Neogaf. Only memes, hot takes, drive by shit posts, gifs, replies without reading OP's and snark.
Iva Demilcol
Member
Actually, Persona 5 is the first Atlus game published by SEGA. Sega's name appears in the title screen.
I thought it was about companies not providing more options that they could easily provide to those who want them, and likely make a hell of lot more money from if they tried to. At least, that's the angle I've been trying to take. Pardon me.
Backlogger
Member
I still feel like there is a little bit of ambiguity in his post though. I am not convinced.
I do and have understood that. It's precisely why I refuse to shut up. I'm not really sure I understand the purpose of this post.
CertifiedFP
Member
Hmm?
Valkyria Chronicles PC + Valkyria Chronicles PS4 = Valkyria Revolution Xbox One seems like perfectly sensible logic to me.
CrichtonKicks
Member
When a lesser Tales game sells 300k on PC and Danganronpa and its sequel can sell nearly 100k each (ie about what a localized Yakuza game moves), what is your basis for thinking that the majority of the audience is being served just on PS4?
Ragnar Blackmane
Member
Not if you expect any sales ;-). If Final Fantasy out of all JRPGs barely sells on the XboxO, a JRPGish and far less known Strategy game doesn't stand much of a chance. There is a reason why everyone laughs about Sega releasing Azure Revolution on XBone rather than PC.
wolfhunter777
Neo Member
Good
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
No problem Atlus, will buy both on PS4 (and P5 on PS3 too). Yakuza 0 is already 1080p/60 but I hope they make Persona 5 60 FPS or unlocked on Pro.
Also, no more delays on for Persona please ;_;
Also, no more delays on for Persona please ;_;
Of course stupid to me, I won't end every sentence with "IHMO" for the sake of people sensibilities.
Didn't speak about any obligation, people are just too eager to use a word 'entitled' as soon as they hear someone complain about something. I sure doubt Yakuza 0 or Persona 5 would sell more on PC or Switch or Xbox than it will on the ps4, but that really doesn't matter, after all it can only increase the audience, what matter is if it would be profitable and if there is any downside* to it.
Which is why I said I understood that position for a small developer/studio. *Atlus could easily take that 'risk' once to check if that statement is true, which based on 'recent' trend ( I doubt we need the usual list of Dark souls, Valkyria, etc.. ) isn't really much of a risk for games like those two.