Glass Rebel
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ugh, hardin fucking portbeggin
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Atlus USA kills rumors | no PC & Switch versions of Persona 5 & Yakuza 0
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ugh, hardin fucking portbeggin
If it was because of that then this thread would of been shutdown before it even hit 1000.
N30RYU
Member
cause there's a ps3 version too
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
No, I only said all those games are not coming out on PC atm and the result is portbegging. NiOh was specifically labelled by TK themselves as a PS4 exclusive and I distinctly remember you trying to deny that.
I'm talking about current releases, in which case PC loses tremendously.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Isn't it also coming to PS3?
Stupid to you. A developer isn't obligated to support multiple platforms and could be fine with sales on only one. Especially games like Yakuza and Persona where the audience is mostly found on one platform anyway. Then there's porting cost and no guarantee sales would be worth the port.
You're saying they assumed it was coming even though you guys never ever made any mention, hint, or possibility of either game being made for PC? Nor Switch? Sounds about right.
And now we have this huge thread of confused and angry people wondering why there's no version of something that never existed to begin with.
AquaWateria
Member
How has this thread hit 30 pages already?
I am stupid, i was wrote something different than i meant lol
i was talking about the "Only on Playstation" label, which should be on both, PS4 and PS3
that's whats missing
People want what they can't have or something like that
GhostTrick
Banned
Right, and it's port begging when labeling implies otherwise.
Distinctly remember ? Sorry, you must have bad memory then. I never said that TK never labelled NiOh as a PS4 exclusive. I did said that Sony labelled it as a console exclusive.
Do you consider that as portbegging ?
I'd like to think it's because P5 and Yakuza have become extremely popular franchises.
BoosterDuck
Banned
That's heresy, us PC kin have purchased 900 thousand copies of Valkyria Chronicles for Sega. The least they need to do is port the new Personas to PC for our humble esteem.
N30RYU
Member
Must have started the port begging when the game was announced for ps3...
zerokoolpsx
Member
People must really want Yakuza and Persona.
If Yakuza 0 ends up on PC, I just know that everyone who posted in this thread is gonna buy it.
GhostTrick
Banned
You're adding to the pile. People who quote you are adding to the pile. Now I'm adding to the pile by pointing out you're adding to the pile. And that's half the thread. It's actually literally the entire page that this post is on as of posting.
N30RYU
Member
Even the ppl talking about future ps4 emulation will need to buy it if they don't plan to play a pirated game...
Or, you know, maybe, you're the first person in this thread that's talking about PS4 emulation.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
He is not.
How exactly am i supposed to afford legal videogames when i already invest so much money into expansive GPU upgrades
All mentions of emulation in this thread
ALL THE PEOPLE
He most likely is. Just did a search of the first 10 pages for the word emulation. It comes up once in reference to older games being emulated preserved their legacy and once again by a console-only poster about ps3 emulation.
Only one of those posts is actually the straw man that the poster is talking about.
The last couple of pages have been about what counts as port begging. Even the mod had to come in say that. All the valid points have been said within the first dozen pages. Now we are just going in circles because there really isn't anything new to discuss.
Game isn't coming to two of the most vocal fanbases on gaf.
A cyclical discussion that ends with a lot of needless finger-pointing from both sides really.
This. Which was why I was surprised that this thread blew up like it did.
Decently popular franchises with very loud fanbases, at least.
BoosterDuck
Banned
but it's already on the PS4
This thread has basically doubled down into the worst thing ever.
PC gamers and Switch owners have a right to voice their opinions about Hardin's post, as irritated as it may make some people feel.
I get being annoyed that there are people not willing to support the original release, but this game is not a Sony funded title, or a game that specifically owes it existence to Sony, has no actual co marketing or co partnership deals with Sony, and really has any real excuse for only being PS3/PS4 outside of Atlus Japan's particular brand of conservatism in regards to how they do business in particular.
So again, as much as it may trigger you(and TBH it triggers me a bit too, dont think i dont understand) to hear dumb posts like "I only hold onto my PS4 cause so it collects dust, refuse to support PS4 titles cause they are currently Playstation only" or "Atlus is stupid for not investing in the specific gaming platform i like and therefore they are dumb", its not a riduclous viewpoint for people to be annoyed at Atlus living in the 1990s on this front.
PC gamers and Switch owners have a right to voice their opinions about Hardin's post, as irritated as it may make some people feel.
I get being annoyed that there are people not willing to support the original release, but this game is not a Sony funded title, or a game that specifically owes it existence to Sony, has no actual co marketing or co partnership deals with Sony, and really has any real excuse for only being PS3/PS4 outside of Atlus Japan's particular brand of conservatism in regards to how they do business in particular.
So again, as much as it may trigger you(and TBH it triggers me a bit too, dont think i dont understand) to hear dumb posts like "I only hold onto my PS4 cause so it collects dust, refuse to support PS4 titles cause they are currently Playstation only" or "Atlus is stupid for not investing in the specific gaming platform i like and therefore they are dumb", its not a riduclous viewpoint for people to be annoyed at Atlus living in the 1990s on this front.
Decently popular...I'll take it.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
You asked if he was the first well clearly he wasn't, just pointed that out.
He was the first one to mention PS4 emulation.
As am I. But how are they rumored? Who is spreading the rumors. If Sony and Atlus Japan came out and said sorry for the bad labels but the games are for PS4 only. Would you believe that?
Are you saying in a decade if they are not on anything else but a Sony console you will just play them on that console? Will you support them now if you have a PS4? Or will you wait for the next rumor to keep you from playing great games.
Tomorrow is not promised. Enjoy them now.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Okay yeah fair enough.
Amen to that. Persona 4 is my favorite game of all time and I own Yakuza 3-5. I am hungry over here
Yakuza has always been a Playstation console title. The team does one game a year and then quickly moves onto the next. Even getting a localisation out of them was difficult. I think after Sega acquired Atlus, they shifted localisation to Atlus and thats how we were able to get 3 more Yakuza games. There's probably nothing in place right now to do a PC or Switch port. John Hardin just doesn't want you guys to be waiting and spreading fake news for a Switch/PC port. In short if you have a PS4 don't wait on these games. I know I'm not.
And this just backs up what I said earlier. Nothing new is being said. All the good stuff has been noted within the first dozen pages.
Rumors are always just rumors.
zerokoolpsx
Member
I agree, Sega/Atlus is leaving money on the table.
Yes, its unfortunate its not gonna be ported, but lets not kid here. It isn't gonna set the PC world on fire either. P5 would sell modestly, but Yakuza. I honestly don't see that selling well.
People who already own a PS4, but choose not to get it. I don't even understand this lol.
Yes, its unfortunate its not gonna be ported, but lets not kid here. It isn't gonna set the PC world on fire either. P5 would sell modestly, but Yakuza. I honestly don't see that selling well.
People who already own a PS4, but choose not to get it. I don't even understand this lol.
I'm not waiting to buy them either, and yeah you summed up the point of the thread. If you hadn't noticed the last several pages has either had one line posts saying that's disappointing but they'll buy/won't buy it anyway or the back and forth about the definition of port begging and schadenfreude by sony fans with a decent amount of posts just decrying how long the thread is.
From the performance of other sega ports, I could totally see Yakuza doing well on PC. I didn't expect a port to happen right away, mind you.
And yeah, the last line is weird to me but there's not that many posters in this thread with that opinion.
DangerMouse
Member
Yup.
Agreed.
Plus Sony pushing and supporting for those extra Yakuza localizations to happen.
I think that is what makes some PS4 players upset. Watching people pass on Yakuza/nioh because of rumors of a pc version. Though nioh has the highest chance to come to pc
Let's not forget that SEGA themselfs have been talking repeatedly about them porting multiple of their console IP's to PC for 2 years now
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Poetic.Injustice
Member
Sony is publishing it worldwide, it actually has the lowest chance.
DangerMouse
Member
Bingo. It's okay to want them on there but there were NEVER any real rumors for any of these titles so at the end of the day these are niche games that need the support that are at least coming to a system where people like these games and there are no real rumors of PC or even Switch versions for either of them and yet you've got people saying screw that wait for fantasy and generally unlikely PC versions, Nioh being published by Sony now and let alone Persona and Yakuza, both console (sometimes handheld with Atlus) titles by devs who don't work on PC.
Eolz
Member
Oof lol
That would be pretty stupid to be angry at that after what some of them said in the BG&E2 or ROTR threads...
I mean, I agree. But you're only talking to a handful of posters in this thread. The other posters are PC owners who also have a PS4/3 that will buy it on those platforms that are disappointed that they won't get a PC version or PC owners that don't own a PS4 and don't like the games enough to buy a PS4 for them.
And honestly, I don't think any of those posters you're talking about made more than a couple of posts in the thread.
DangerMouse
Member
Seriously now? You've got to be trolling.
A real rumor is one backed up by fact and actual leaks with basis in reality. Persona 5, Yakuza 0, and Nioh have absolutely zero such information about potential other versions as well as developers with no signficant history of PC development (and Nioh is now published by Sony). Persona 5 is even already out in Japan with just PS3 and PS4 versions.