MaximumSpider
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Atlus USA kills rumors | no PC & Switch versions of Persona 5 & Yakuza 0
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Interfectum
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You don't understand why some would love a portable version of Persona 5?
GhostTrick
Banned
Pretty simple: Sony fucked up the labels in their last video, so it raised questions I guess
TheSpoiler
Member
I think the point is that it's fine to desire games on other systems. But the port begging, "wait vindication" as some others have put it, and hubris of demanding the game come elsewhere is just not necessary. Like, I don't care if Y0 hits Steam or not. It's Sega's decision, and at the end of the day you just deal with it.
The topic before this about Yakuza 0 possibly coming over due to "console exclusive" was so full of people sure of it hitting and I just didn't get it. Like, why not wait until they confirm it?
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Remember when some higher up at Capcom said something like he'd behead himself before RE4 ever made it to consoles other than Gamecube?
Yea, I plan on playing this on PS4, but unless a game is 1st party, I don't believe exclusivity claims anymore.
Yea, I plan on playing this on PS4, but unless a game is 1st party, I don't believe exclusivity claims anymore.
Every japanese game is coming to Switch until proven otherwise.
Englebert3rd
Unconfirmed Member
Aw, that's a shame. Now I'm forced to get a PS4.
JB2448
Member
That's fair. All right, scratch that from my point. Sony has no money in Persona 5's development. And yes, I hope Sony does the same in North America and Europe. The game deserves as much exposure as possible.
Primethius
Banned
I can see that. I don't agree with it given the Japanese market and the relative unknown of the actual demand (aka real sales) as opposed to fan demand on message boards but I can see that argument.
Yea, I dunno man. Selling 300k copies on Vita with Persona 4 Golden really sucked for Atlus (in Japan). That's just not a number they want. A known quantity with base that has proven to buy their games.
*shrugs*
mejin
Member
Pretty simple: Sony fucked up the labels in their last video, so it raised questions I guess
No doubt. Sony created such tags and they don't even care for the meaning nowadays.
It's Atlus that hasn't got what it takes. Once they figure out how to get other Sega branches to help out with their games, we can start dreaming of PC ports of their games.
It sure took a while for Disgaea to appear on PC. The hope for more "niche" JRPGs on PC is not dead but unrealistic to happen with the way the company is right now.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
I mean you can because it's sold in the same places you can buy a toaster and there's always online shopping..Its not like it's not constantly on sale :/....assuming that PC gamers have some sort of income if they can buy games or even beg for a game they want to actually buy with money right? Its not unreasonable to buy something you want. Im sure if there was a PC exclusive I wanted to play, I'm probably going to have to buy a PC wouldn't I?...and funnily enough...that's probably harder and more expensive to buy than a console..
Pretty simple: Sony fucked up the labels in their last video, so it raised questions I guess
It's part of Sonys masterplan.
there's a ps3 version
P4 Golden sold very well on Vita, but that was over 4 years ago. 4.5 in Japan. How did the follow-ups/sequels to big 2012/2013 Vita games make out?
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Of course, but you are consistently missing out one of the most important factors that PC sales do not cover but PS4 does: Asian sales.
TheSpoiler
Member
Pretty simple: Sony fucked up the labels in their last video, so it raised questions I guess
They fucked up the labeling, but nothing was confirmed either way. People took that shit and ran with it, assuming a PC port was definitely coming for games like Nioh.
Which, again, it's better to assume there's a possibility if the publisher thinks it's appropriate, but better to err on the side of caution and wait for official confirmation.
If the licencing allows for it and the IP/developer would benefiting increased revenue and exposure, then yes.
The most important part of getting a game on PC is preservation. The game is forwards compatible with hardware and operating systems to support future resolutions and display standards.
Steams fastest growing revenue source by far is Asian regions.
Primethius
Banned
Are you talking about Dancing All Night? IIRC, that landed around 120k sales.
you want someone's life to be miserable to justify yourself entitlement.
GAF I tell yah
PdotMichael
Banned
We are at the point where Nintendo fans want all third party games. Give it a year and we are back to Nintendo games are the only ones which matter.
There is plenty of reliable out there that shows they can easily port make a pretty big profit.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Why was Persona Q only on 3DS and never came to Vita?
They literally left money on the table.
They literally left money on the table.
JB2448
Member
I sincerely doubt that. Atlus as a developer dwarfs devs developers like Complie Heart and Nippon Ichi in terms of raw employee count, and yet we see their catalog coming to Steam. That doesn't mean it isn't a calculated decision to not release Persona 5 on other platforms, but I can't believe for a second that it wouldn't be feasible for them to bring it to other platforms if they decide to move forward with a decision like that.
DangerMouse
Member
This. They don't need it and it probably saved them development cost by focusing on PS3/4 where the game could achieve what they wanted and still hit most of their fans in Japan, Asia, and the west, and as such it's already their best selling one. Plus the game has been in development for ages.
Plus Japanese devs are starting to make the jump to PS4 considering even Falcom is now making the shift with the next Trails so despite the PS4 not lighting up Japan for consoles it seems like it's finally reached a level they are comfortable with. Atlus doesn't expect or need FF sales numbers from P5.
Are you seriously arguing PS4 is bigger than PC in Asia?
Buggy Loop
Member
Atlus does not want money it seems
Just a release of SMT 3 Nocturne on PC would generate more cash than their entire year of effort.
Just a release of SMT 3 Nocturne on PC would generate more cash than their entire year of effort.
Suzushiiro
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Has a company ever confirmed a port of a game that wasn't coming day-and-date (or at least within a month or so) of the initial version(s)' before the initial launch? It makes zero business sense to make that sort of announcement until after the game's initial release window. You're basically just asking people to hold off on buying your game until a better version comes out later on.
Not saying I think they *are* releasing Switch/PC versions of those games, mind you. But if either one of those are in the cards there's no fucking way we'll hear about them until May/June at the earliest.
Not saying I think they *are* releasing Switch/PC versions of those games, mind you. But if either one of those are in the cards there's no fucking way we'll hear about them until May/June at the earliest.
GhostTrick
Banned
Steam is mainly a Western market though, as of right now. Hence the comparison. You're also missing out some important stuff: PC sales only need to cover its own port. Which it more than likely did by a wide margin. Also the sorry release state of that release.
He isn't. He's talking about DQH sales.
If there's a lesson to be learned from all this, it's that Sony REALLY needs to sort out their labeling issues.
This, along with the recent video outlining upcoming 2017 games, clearly illustrate how much confusion these erroneous labels are causing.
Perhaps Sony is using the "Console Exclusive" label as a precaution, in case a dev decides to port their game(s) to PC/mobile at a later date.
This, along with the recent video outlining upcoming 2017 games, clearly illustrate how much confusion these erroneous labels are causing.
Perhaps Sony is using the "Console Exclusive" label as a precaution, in case a dev decides to port their game(s) to PC/mobile at a later date.
MisterR
Member
Except when it's announced it isn't getting something, then a army of Nintendo avatars flood the thread stating how this was already know and nobody should have expected it.
Primethius
Banned
No idea. But given how well Persona Q sold in Japan, I expect a Switch port for P5 before a PC one.
Gotta make that money in Japan.
how come Persona 4: Dancing All Night was only on the Vita?
how come Persona 4: Racing All Afternoon was only on the Wonderswan?
DangerMouse
Member
For console style non-MMO games? Probably. Do you see Super Robot Wars getting a PC version from a dev that has no history making PC games?
McMoneyman
Member
I don't understand port-begging myself. Sure there's been times stuff comes out for devices I don't own, so then I just wait for a bunch of exclusives that I want before I buy that device. I have no problem with exclusivity.
The Asia PC gaming is not what you think.
I'm sure you're willing to pay the companies upfront for any risks or costs preventing them from releasing their product on your platform of choice.
This thread is awesome but this post? ...
That is some choice nonsense right there. I'm talking Yogi Berra levels.
That is some choice nonsense right there. I'm talking Yogi Berra levels.
Thank you for this, it made my day.
Also were people really expecting switch ports? I guess we don't really have any idea how third party support will shake out, but if we go by current trends, then it was even unlikely before atlus said anything.
Primethius
Banned
Asia is a huge market for Japanese games. PC is a big market too (in general) but it's on the lower end of things when you look at total cumulative sales.
Series like Yakuza for example are never gonna do big in the West, multiple platforms or not.
No comment is usually seen as "we haven't announced anything yet".
Silence is usually seen as "we can't talk about yet".
Just no, is usually seen as "of course they are going to deny it".
No matter what is said or not, some will take it as confirmation anyway.
It doesn't help when situations like the new Marvel vs Capcom, were its existence was denied... until it was officially announced.
In the end, if anything that just means "for now". And things like this can change, so who knows. I mean, after all outside Persona Q, no Persona games has been on Nintendo platforms so I don't know why it suddently is expected on Switch.
Heck, the 3DS could have received P3 and P4 and it didn't. Wii U got Yakuza and not many even know of it.
Silence is usually seen as "we can't talk about yet".
Just no, is usually seen as "of course they are going to deny it".
No matter what is said or not, some will take it as confirmation anyway.
It doesn't help when situations like the new Marvel vs Capcom, were its existence was denied... until it was officially announced.
In the end, if anything that just means "for now". And things like this can change, so who knows. I mean, after all outside Persona Q, no Persona games has been on Nintendo platforms so I don't know why it suddently is expected on Switch.
Heck, the 3DS could have received P3 and P4 and it didn't. Wii U got Yakuza and not many even know of it.
PQ Vita would actually be a more involved port than P5 PC would. You'd need to redo some assets, interface and other stuff. Probably more expensive tbh.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
MONEY.ON.THE.TABLE.
TheSpoiler
Member
No, what it means is "it's not coming". Could that change in the future? Possibly! But posts like these give too much leeway and eventually degrade into "it's definitely coming in the future".
PdotMichael
Banned
His argument was that there are more digital Steam sales than PSN sales.Which is another explanation why there aren't so many PC ports of such games.