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Attack of the Cloverfield sequels

I was a big fan of the original Cloverfield movie that released more than a decade ago. I would follow the pre-release ARG stuff and ended up being a bit of a nerd regarding important details omitted from the actual movie. I really liked the design of the sea monster Clover to the point where I had entire sketchbook drawings of it and what I thought its parent or grown-up version of the monster might look like. And then after a while I forgot about it. The new Godzilla came along as well as the first Pacific Rim and I liked those movies. I didn't follow the marketing for those movies like I did Cloverfield.

Anyways, the Cloverfield "sequels" are garbage. Cloverfield to me is about a sea monster attacking New York City and the video of the Tagruato oil rig collapsing into the sea. It is NOT about Cloverfield easter eggs that were shoehorned into movie scripts that end with a woman confronting some fleshy alien ship, or an even worse movie about horrific parallel universes.

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Matt Reeves, who directed Cloverfield, would go on to direct Dawn of the Planet of the Apes and War for the Planet of the Apes which I thought were good movies. He's also directing The Batman that as we know will star Robert Pattinson in the role of Bruce Wayne/Batman.

That last part is important as I read that J.J. Abrams is developing a true, dedicated Cloverfield sequel but there's no chance that Matt Reeves will be returning seeing as how The Batman is in pre-production, and even if he were to return along with writer Drew Goddard (World War Z, The Martian) in my opinion it's already too late. I have no excitement left for this so-called movie franchise.

When talking about Cloverfield, I can only recommend the original for awesome little moments like this:

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A good example of special effects aging nicely more than a decade later.

I also really liked the scene when everyone walks out of the convenience store back into the street after the cloud of debris from the collapsed building rolled in. The one that immediately follows the Statue of Liberty's head crashing onto the street.

So I'm just going to pretend the sequels don't exist. Leave Cloverfield alone, J. J. Abrams.
 
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Imo only the original movie was great and they should've simply made another big monster found footage flick.

10 Cloverfield Lane shouldn't have been named a Cloverfield movie and also the heavily action-packed ending ruined the entire film. Cloverfield Paradox was straight up garbage and the attempt to tie it to the "Cloverfield universe" was even more laughable.
 
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Only seen them all once, but I liked 'em all. Cloverfield is obviously the original and best.

But the idea of tying these other films into the universe is fun, or annoying, probably 50-50 like Marmite.

It reminds me of how Nintendo come up with a new gameplay concepts and stick a character like Luigi or Toad on last.

I wouldn't be so upset OP, it's just a film.

Love J.J.'s stuff though, especially LOST (yes I'm in the minority).
 
Imo only the original movie was great and they should've simply made another big monster found footage flick.

10 Cloverfield Lane shouldn't have been named a Cloverfield movie and also the heavily action-packed ending ruined the entire film. Cloverfield Paradox was straight up garbage and the attempt to tie it to the "Cloverfield universe" was even more laughable.

Original was bad because of structure "found footage" that didn't work for it really.
With Blair Witch at least there is some explanation to why they are holding camera because they are student group making project about local folklore. With Cloverfield you have plenty of situation where they could be killed any second and they just stand there and film it. 6/10

10 cloverfield lane is actually great movie. The whole bait and switch worked PRECISELY because for most of movie viewer is told that this guy is crazy but in the end he was right and they were wrong. That twist wouldn't work without that ending. The problem with ending is that it was too action heavy and stupid. Either movie should end with her being killed outright after few minutes or her silently stealthy walking away while alien invasion is happening. Still it was 8/10 instead of 9/10 due to this.
 
I'd like to see the Clovie monster now in a movie where the cameras didn't shake so violently practically all the way through because I get motion sickness off that film. Like from a different perspective but the cameras are stable.

Also the marketing for the first movie was great it still stays with me too this day the line they thought was"It's a Lion" and the Internet starts suggesting it was a live action Voltron film remember that?

I also like the idea of a Horror/Sci-Fi anthology series but the scripts written as if they mean something related to it not tacked on later and then quality controlled.
 
Cloverfield's pretty fun, but I find the lead insufferable. So your brother just died and you talk to your parents on the phone and tell them about it. Oh, but then you find out there's a slim chance that the girl you're crushing on MIGHT still be alive in the city, so you decide to risk your life on that to find her despite the fact that if you die now your parents have yet another child to grieve over. Classy. Well, at least he refuses to allow his friends to accompany him and has them head immediately for ways to evac the city, no need to endanger the lives of people you care about, OH.......oh, you just suck, good sir.

Seriously, I'm sure some people will feel differently about him, and that's fine, but I personally found his actions highly frustrating.

10 Cloverfield Lane though, yeah if you can just get over it not really being connected to the first film, is great and honestly to me the superior film. John Goodman kills it in the role, and I love the back-and-forth on how much you can trust what he's saying. Mary Elizabeth Winstead is great too and I appreciate a lead in this sort of situation who really thinks a lot of things through rather than making dumb decisions to keep the plot going. The other guy was good too. Just a solid thriller to me.

Haven't seen the third one, not super interested but I might check it out someday.
 
10 Cloverfield Lane was a great movie but that didn't need to be associated with Cloverfield. It felt like they had the base movie and some studio exec saw it and said "Can't sell this. Nah, needs Cloverfield. Add a CGI Alien boss fight ending and change the name."

Then the fuckin Netflix one, what the fuck was that.

Cloverfield was really good. There was definitely room to build into the lore/mystery but what we got was just....
 
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I still love the first one, it was the only monster movie up to that point that captured the confusion and panic that would result on the ground if something like that actually happened. It had a lot of 9/11 in it.
 
Original was bad because of structure "found footage" that didn't work for it really.
With Blair Witch at least there is some explanation to why they are holding camera because they are student group making project about local folklore. With Cloverfield you have plenty of situation where they could be killed any second and they just stand there and film it. 6/10

10 cloverfield lane is actually great movie. The whole bait and switch worked PRECISELY because for most of movie viewer is told that this guy is crazy but in the end he was right and they were wrong. That twist wouldn't work without that ending. The problem with ending is that it was too action heavy and stupid. Either movie should end with her being killed outright after few minutes or her silently stealthy walking away while alien invasion is happening. Still it was 8/10 instead of 9/10 due to this.
This can always get expanded in the sequel. Remember how REC2 featured shots from different cameras? They could mix shots from civilians, TV crews, soldiers or heck even surveillance cams.

As for Cloverfield 10 Lane, I should mention that I really liked the "bunker part" of the movie, but yeah, she shouldn't have survived like that after going outside.
 
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10 Cloverfield Lane was a great movie but that didn't need to be associated with Cloverfield. It felt like they had the base movie and some studio exec saw it and said "Can't sell this. Nah, needs Cloverfield. Add a CGI Alien boss fight ending and change the name."

Then the fuckin Netflix one, what the fuck was that.

Cloverfield was really good. There was definitely room to build into the lore/mystery but what we got was just....
That is exactly what happened with both sequels. Neither were made as Cloverfield sequels, they were made as stand alone movies and they just bought them and tacked the name Cloverfield onto them
 
I still love the first one, it was the only monster movie up to that point that captured the confusion and panic that would result on the ground if something like that actually happened. It had a lot of 9/11 in it.
I really liked that about the movie. And I wish it was longer. Barely an hour and thirty minutes.
 
It was just shaky cam: the movie with a load of interesting concepts that were never properly explained. I liked 10 Cloverfield Lane the most, it was a far more interesting movie & handled the lack of info the audience was getting a lot better. The Cloverfield Paradox was fucking abysmal, can't believe I actually signed into my Netflix account within the hour of its release to watch it.
 
First one was good. Cloverfield Cinematic Universe is just a no-go for me though. Who knows, maybe the next Bridget Jones movie will take place in it.
 
I'm surprised at how much praise Cloverfield is getting here as I've always thought it was cheap looking CGI, cliche-ridden garbage.

Except for the ending, Cloverfield Lane was much better, imo. I went into the movie having completely forgotten about the original Cloverfield so the ending was a welcomed twist (though badly executed).
 
I imagine this "franchise" only really exists as such because some executives became obsessed with creating franchises and cinematic universes.

The first one was fun as a somewhat unique take on a big monster movie, the second one was a fun thriller with a crappy ending that had no real reason to be connected to the first one, and the third one is a derivative space horror movie which, again, didn't feel like it needed to connect in any way.
 
I imagine this "franchise" only really exists as such because some executives became obsessed with creating franchises and cinematic universes.

The first one was fun as a somewhat unique take on a big monster movie, the second one was a fun thriller with a crappy ending that had no real reason to be connected to the first one, and the third one is a derivative space horror movie which, again, didn't feel like it needed to connect in any way.

I haven't seen Overlord but wasn't it supposed to connect as well or did they change it to be it's own thing?
 
That mutant-Nazi movie was supposed to connect to Cloverfield?

I've never heard this

IDK that's what I was asking. I remember seeing an article that Overlord was originally supposed to be part of the "Cloverfield Universe" movies. Along with the space one and 10 Cloverfield Lane.

Maybe they changed it when the space one bombed. 🤷‍♀️ 🤷‍♀️ 🤷‍♀️ 🤷‍♀️ 🤷‍♀️ 🤷‍♀️
 
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