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[Deleted member 22576]

Agreed. I actually refrained from ever watching movies in 3D until Avatar is released. It'll be the first movie I've seen in 3D. It's just the wait man, it's painful.

I've seen 3:
My bloody valentine
Bufflewulf
and James Cameron's Aliens of the deep.

I'm not trying to fuel any fires here, but Aliens of the deep was the only one I remember being super impressed by. There was this shot of like an elephant or something with it's trunk sticking out and the effect was so real.

That was the FIRST 3D movie I had ever seen so I'm sure that's part of it, but I later saw Beowulf on the exact same screen and was completely unimpressed.

MBV was sorta in the middle, the depth was great but only on long shots. Close ups and mid shorts just didn't look quite "right."

 

[critch]

They want to torture us. Isn't it obvious?

Seriously, this movie will be huge at the box office. The 25-minute Comic Con footage and the reactions to it are now going to precipitate the positive word-of-mouth and get Avatar into the public consciousness.

By the time August 21st roles around, there are gonna be some packed IMAX theaters wanting to look at that footage. They're obviously going a different direction with the marketing of this movie, and it annoys some of us because we're the ones who want to see the footage so badly, but they're clearly confident that the movie will sell itself fairly easily once it is shown.

The problem is that the main public consciousness doesn't even know what the hell Comic-Con is, and I don't think the 15 minute thing is going to reach anyone but the people that were going to see it regardless. The main public will rely on trailers in front of other movies and on the net. The main problem Fox is going to run into is by waiting so long to put anything out there they completely miss the trailer being on any big movies. It'll be on 2012 and Christmas Carol and possibly New Moon but nothing like Star Trek or Transformers. It's hard to say if 4 months is enough time to hype a blockbuster, it's never been tried.

I think it'll do ok, though not exactly incredible, probably along the lines of King Kong. The length and subject matter aren't going to reach too far outside of the geek community. 60-70 opening, 180-200 finish. Worldwide gives it it's profit.

 

[PrivateWHudson]

User?

viewer/listener

 

[Dead]

http://www.avatarmovie.com/

AVATAR DAY

 

[Deleted member 22576]

The length and subject matter aren't going to reach too far outside of the geek community. 60-70 opening, 180-200 finish. Worldwide gives it it's profit.

Not sure about the length, but I don't think the "general public" will have any problem with the subject matter.

 

[critch]

http://www.avatarmovie.com

Website has a bit of music, a quick shot of a face.

 

[Deleted member 22576]

http://www.avatarmovie.com/

AVATAR DAY

Wow, the music is awesome.

 

[Blader]

Not sure about the length, but I don't think the "general public" will have any problem with the subject matter.

The general public is a bunch of furries?

 

[jett]

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/41793

Reading now so I'm not sure how detailed or well written of a impression it is..

I have to admit, those aintitcool impressions make me hyped up for the movie, which only turns in the dagger deeper. Damnit Camewrong. Especially the 3D impressions, it almost makes me want to see the movie in 3D first, even though it makes suffer from instant and constant headaches.

But the 3-D is eye-popping, some of the best use I’ve seen recently… maybe since Captain Eo in my youth. Cameron’s not just content to give you a Viewmaster depth, but he also puts layers on our side of the screen… not so much in the SCTV comin’ atcha way, but in that the only depth isn’t perceived through the window of the screen… it’s also in the audience itself, filling the peripherals as things move by.

That sounds very intriguing to me because so far none of these Digital 3D movies have held a candle to Captain EO, in my opinion...

This line in particular though, I'm not sure what he's getting at:

but in that the only depth isn’t perceived through the window of the screen… it’s also in the audience itself, filling the peripherals as things move by.

From what I've experienced of 3D movies is that everything you see is constrained within the screen, it's impossible for stuff to "fly out" of the frame. Maybe I'm reading it wrong?

Anyway, those impressions really hit home for me, it's as if the guy was in my head and every complain I had about 3D was also his. I too have described 3D movies as being like a POS Viewmaster. :lol

 

[Gilby]

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/41793

Reading now so I'm not sure how detailed or well written of a impression it is..

I hope this movie turns out to be good, and I think it will. But that write-up makes it sound like Pocahontas-3D.

 

[critch]

Not sure about the length, but I don't think the "general public" will have any problem with the subject matter.

Do you know the plot of the movie?

Also thing I thought was funny. The font used in Cameron's Avatar is very similar to the Last Airbender font. Nothing special, just thought it was amusing.

 

[Veidt]

http://www.avatarmovie.com/

AVATAR DAY

Holy crap.

I'm hopeful of internet trailer appearing. No matter what is said

 

[plank]

I really hope those aliens look fuckable.

 

[Len Dontree]

All we've heard from you and several others is how amazing this is going to be, without you having seen frame 1 of footage. I would think that, especially amongst the nerdily-inclined, NO DIRECTOR has earned the benefit of the doubt based on how many times movies just like this have been hyped and been complete wastes of time.

We've never said how awful it will be, we're just waiting on some sort of evidence before we get all crazed, and would appreciate some reason to be hyped. Once again, Fox and Cameron have missed an opportunity to show the people that will actually see his movie that it actually exists.

Only on the internet would moving cautiously get you bitched at.

Okey doke, show me where I've been hyping this up as the second coming...As far as I'm concerned, I've never hated a James Cameron movie I've seen; some are better than others, but several of them are all-time classics IMO. So he's an artist that has earned my trust that he might know what he's doing. That's all I'm saying.

I'm not bitching about anyone tempering their expectations, but I don't see a lot of that. I don't want to join a crazed hyperbole parade any more than I want to become a bitter, jaded nerdwarrior. I'm not waiting for "some reason to be hyped" and I don't view going to the movies as "complete wastes of time", even mediocre movies can be entertaining; and I filter my experiences so I don't go see the Wolverine's and Twilight's of the world.

Quit being so weird.

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

Having read that AICN report (which, let's face it, isn't often the bastion of balanced reporting when it come to the next-big-thing) I'm as underwhelmed as I previously was.

The technology simply isn't 'game-changing' and the story certainly sounds too rehashed and uninspired to make up for the tech demonstration.

I'm going to put my money down and say that the reason there's no trailer yet and that the premiers of such material will not occur until Aug. 21st on IMAX only is partly because an internet release would draw a fair old backlash with expectation running this high.

I expect sugar crashes across the land in a month's time.

 

[I <3 Memes]

Do you know the plot of the movie?

Anyone who watched Ubisofts E3 conference had the entire plot to Avatar recited to them by James Cameron himself.

 

[Zenith]

The 25-minute Comic Con footage and the reactions to it are now going to precipitate the positive word-of-mouth and get Avatar into the public consciousness.

:lol Sorry, but something shown behind closed doors at a comics/scifi/movies/video games convention and talked about on blogs and forums is going to get zero propagation in the real world.

 

[Wollan]

http://twitter.com/officialavatar is actually the official tweet and not a fraud as thought earlier.

 

[Deleted member 22576]

The general public is a bunch of furries?

No... well, maybe.
But I think it's pretty obvious the general public doesn't have any problems with high budget fantasy films.
And to the other poster, yes I've read quite a bit about the films plot.

 

[Grant DaNasty]

What? TDK has had zero impact on how films are made. It was a great movie but the "masses" probably don't even have it in their top ten.

It takes at least 2 years to make a tentpole. It's too early to know what kind of impact TDK had.

 

[usernamechange]

http://www.avatarmovie.com/

AVATAR DAY

Weird that they're not hyping up the trailer being released on the 21st... maybe it's not coming out that day?

 

[Veidt]

Damn. This movie really looks to be a film like no other.

 

[Snaku]

http://www.avatarmovie.com/

AVATAR DAY

 

[realraptor]

Blue "aliens?" I keep imagining Liara T'Soni from Mass Effect :lol

 

[jett]

Anyone else paid attention to this?

HUGE announcement! Avatar Day is coming 8/21! The FIRST ever look at scenes from the movie only in theaters! #avatarday

Is James Cameron insane enough to not upload an official Avatar trailer online?

Blue "aliens?" I keep imagining Liara T'Soni from Mass Effect :lol

Lucky you, I keep imagining this

 

[Deleted member 22576]

Weird that they're not hyping up the trailer being released on the 21st... maybe it's not coming out that day?

I know it's probably stupid to assume things about this movie, but I'd say it's a safe bet that we'll see a trailer day.

I mean, you don't just make an AVATARDAY website and have JC declare he's going to take over as many IMAX theaters as possible and not put a trailer online.

Spoiler

Unless there is going to be trailers for the trailer.

 

[Veidt]

Anyone else paid attention to this?

HUGE announcement! Avatar Day is coming 8/21! The FIRST ever look at scenes from the movie only in theaters! #avatarday

Is James Cameron insane enough to not upload an official Avatar trailer online?

Is this real? Dammit.

 

[bluescreenoflife]

I really hope those aliens look fuckable.

It's Zoe Saldana, dude.

Of course it's going to look fuckable.

 

[Deleted member 22576]

Yeah, she is so hot.

 

[Veidt]

Zoe Saldana *drools* my kinda woman.

 

[RBelong2Us]

While I dont agree with Devin from Chud on some stuff, he's less likely to get sucked in hyperbole and he seems to give some decent impressions on what he gathered from the footage.

http://chud.com/articles/articles/20234/1/COMIC-CON-09-DEVIN-SEES-AVATAR/Page1.html

 

[Zeliard]

:lol Sorry, but something shown behind closed doors at a comics/scifi/movies/video games convention and talked about on blogs and forums is going to get zero propagation in the real world.

Word of mouth is spread precisely in such a fashion. It starts as a murmur and grows from there. Puzzling how you'd say this when every major news network now hosts multiple twitter feeds and blogs, in what has become a new phenomenon. Are they not part of "the real world"?

The Internet is intrinsically tied into popular culture at this point, and Comic-Con grows exponentially bigger every year, helped along by the huge popularity of comic book movies.

 

[Zenith]

It takes at least 2 years to make a tentpole. It's too early to know what kind of impact TDK had.

what impact? It was a great film but nothing it did was new. How could it possibly alter film making? Did it have revolutionary new special effects or a camera shots? When was the last time you heard a director or someone referrring to it in an interview? It's like saying Once Upon a Time in Mexico is going to change film making. No one outside of comic-book circles is going to view it as one of the "defining" movies. Most people view it the same as Ironman or Hulk. Cool stuff but that's all. Hyperbole overload.

Puzzling how you'd say this when every major news network now hosts multiple twitter feeds and blogs, in what has become a new phenomenon.

I have never heard anyone who isn't internet savvy like me talk about something from a blog or twitter.

 

[DMczaf]

While I dont agree with Devin from Chud on some stuff, he's less likely to get sucked in hyperbole

devin is ALL about hyperbole :lol Either negative or positive.

Just look at his recent reviews of Harry Potter and Transformers 2.

 

[GhaleonEB]

No, what this presentation convinced me of is that AVATAR will be a strong return to narrative filmmaking from one of the best filmmakers of the last 30 years. Once we see the whole picture it might be more than that because I have a feeling that this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Works for me.

Sucks about the trailer, though. We'll get fuzzy footage and impressions for a full month before it debuts? Lamers.

 

[Ashhong]

what impact? It was a great film but nothing it did was new. How could it possibly alter film making? Did it have revolutionary new special effects or a camera shots? When was the last time you heard a director or someone referrring to it in an interview? It's like saying Once Upon a Time in Mexico is going to change film making. No one outside of comic-book circles is going to view it as one of the "defining" movies. Most people view it the same as Ironman or Hulk. Cool stuff but that's all. Hyperbole overload.



I have never heard anyone who isn't internet savvy like me talk about something from a blog or twitter.

do you not watch late night TV?

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Weird that they're not hyping up the trailer being released on the 21st... maybe it's not coming out that day?

Wow that music is great!

I am conflicted GAF. Do I go watch and spoil an entire 15 minutes of the movie for myself at IMAX or do I hold out?

 

[Fodaquinhentos]

That twitter wasn't bullshit

 

[TOM f'N CRUISE]

Wow that music is great!

I am conflicted GAF. Do I go watch and spoil an entire 15 minutes of the movie for myself at IMAX or do I hold out?

hold out

 

[Veidt]

Wow that music is great!

I am conflicted GAF. Do I go watch and spoil an entire 15 minutes of the movie for myself at IMAX or do I hold out?

I've read some descriptions from the 15 minute footage. And for someone like you, I think it's best to hold out. You're mind will be blown to bits. Seriously, it doesn't seem like a movie. It sounds surreal.

 

[Nizz]

Guess this'll be my first 3d movie I'll see in theaters.

 

[Wollan]

I am conflicted GAF. Do I go watch and spoil an entire 15 minutes of the movie for myself at IMAX or do I hold out?

It's in the proper format and Cameron wants you to go.

The only IMAX cinema in Norway was shut down some years ago due to low interest (but we're going to be the first in the world to have fully digitized all our cinemas into 3D, all before the end of 2010, 440 screens). I'm guessing that Colosseum or Ringen cinema in Oslo will have this 15minute offer and I will be there.

 

[totowhoa]

motherfuckers.

I waited all day for now and slowly hyped myself while reading several pages up to this one awaiting a real link.

youtube just rickrolls me again and again.

 

[Karma Kramer]

I am going to hold out on this 15 minute thing at Imax.... seems like its just going to be a big tease

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Yeah I think I will hold out.

Great to see that even all the skeptics are agreeing this is the first real use of 3D. That is what the revolution was people. The effects and the way they were created is something unique, but whenever anybody talked about the revolutionary status of this film, it was in relation to the film as a spark for the 3D revolution. The recent slew of 3D films in the past couple of years is evidence of Cameron's work already in being the frontrunner for 3D to be taken seriously.

Wollan - I will not spoil any part of this film for me. Its all or nothing. If it was just a trailer I would head to IMAX for that, but I will not sit through 15 minutes of different parts of the story.

 

[Snaku]

Wow that music is great!

I am conflicted GAF. Do I go watch and spoil an entire 15 minutes of the movie for myself at IMAX or do I hold out?

Shit, you've made it this far. I say you go on a complete media black out for five more months.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

http://www.avatarmovie.com/ I swear that music sounds Mononoke inspired almost. Sounds like forest spirit/kodamas type music.

 

[Dan]

The recent slew of 3D films in the past couple of years is evidence of Cameron's work already in being the frontrunner for 3D to be taken seriously.

No, it's evidence that executives have found a way to charge more for ticket prices.

 

[Veidt]

This whole James Cameron discussion has made me see that JC really did a lot for the industry. I appreciate his love of pushing the boundaries. I hate it when directors don't try to accomplish something new. James Cameron is up there, the man is insanely talented for bringing in the newest tech and using it to it's full potential.

 

[The Librarian]

Yeah I think I will hold out.

Great to see that even all the skeptics are agreeing this is the first real use of 3D. That is what the revolution was people. The effects and the way they were created is something unique, but whenever anybody talked about the revolutionary status of this film, it was in relation to the film as a spark for the 3D revolution. The recent slew of 3D films in the past couple of years is evidence of Cameron's work already in being the frontrunner for 3D to be taken seriously.

Wollan - I will not spoil any part of this film for me. Its all or nothing. If it was just a trailer I would head to IMAX for that, but I will not sit through 15 minutes of different parts of the story.

I swear I will murder you if this movie isn't the greatest thing since 2001.