SpeedingUptoStop
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I dunno, big blockbuster in the dead of Winter. Sherlock Holmes could sink it's teeth into it, maybe, but the only competitor I see after after that is...gdt5016 said:
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AVATAR - Sci-fi epic by James Cameron @ COMIC-CON
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BOOK OF ELI.
SpeedingUptoStop said:
They should market it as the next great thing to ever hit the film industry. "The man behind the highest grossing movie ever- Which was the Titanic, is bringing us the most technologically advanced movie in the history of mankind" " Be happy you're ALIVE to see this".
BattleMonkey
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People have to know what the fuck the movie is about or that it even exists for it to make the huge numbers some think it will do. Right now outside the net, no one has a clue this movie is coming so soon, while most big blockbusters start getting pimped almost a year ahead.
The secrecy they are taking with this film can bite them in the ass hard.
The secrecy they are taking with this film can bite them in the ass hard.
SCULLIBUNDO
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TAJ said:
Oh GAF.
HomerSimpson-Man
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Jibril said:
No, you got to go all the way, baby.
I mean also pimp out the fact he's the creator of Terminator and the man behind Aliens, and ending it with Titanic would be even more epic.
You got to list out his individually epic deeds, like the revolutionary visual breakthrough like T2 and stuff.
Are people really so thick? Cracking 400M doesnt mean the WOM is good either, the second movie has weaker legs than the first, its been crtically panned among the worst of the year, user ratings for the movie is lower on all major sites.HomerSimpson-Man said:
That being said I believe Avatar will outgross TF2, not 100% sure but I think it's chances are very good.
SpeedingUptoStop
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...which is why they will have free screenings of 15 minutes of the film nationwide.BattleMonkey said:
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That apple exclusive trailer was a tad weak though.SpeedingUptoStop said:
The story still seems pretty cool and combat looked cool as fuck though.
SCULLIBUNDO
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I can't believe nobody at the Q&A part of the conference asked him the status of Battle Angel, which he was supposed to be in pre-production on in late AVATAR post.
I thought this thread was fairly stupid before someone called the guy who is partially responsible for some of the biggest technological advancements in filming, and some of the most visually interesting motion pictures ever made, "hopelessly old-fashioned".
Now it's reach some frightening level that none of us may ever recover from.
Now it's reach some frightening level that none of us may ever recover from.
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Aside from the old stories of him refusing to edit on a computer, Spielberg seems to be one of the first people to adopt/make great use of new technology in film.TAJ said:
SCULLIBUNDO
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Koodo said:
Do you have any idea how much money that one day will cost them. Doing it for free around the globe? You'll get the trailer on that day as well so calm down. Still 5 months worth of marketing before it bows.
HomerSimpson-Man
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irfan said:
You don't make a $127 million opening 3 day onto a $108 million opening weekend and end with a 3 time multiplier if it's it's isn't some decent legs.
It's still a fact that it's still making more than Transformers 1 did on a daily basis in the same point in time. Aside from the 2nd week drop, it's now equaling Transformers 1 weekly drops with it's 3rd and 4th weekends while overall making more per weekend thus far. The weeklies and dailies show this at boxofficemojo.com which greatly weakens....er the weaker legs comment.
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Yeah dude, like two months of intense advertising is enough.
Let alone 5 months.
Tv spots for films usually don't even start airing before a month or so anyway.
Let alone 5 months.
Tv spots for films usually don't even start airing before a month or so anyway.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Even that is just a byproduct of his resistance to change. He was in the habit of using ILM, and they just happened to be the company that ended up making some big early leaps in CG.Jtwo said:
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Whatever dude.
SCULLIBUNDO
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TAJ, just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.
Also, this image appears to be a slightly higher res/better look at the teaser poster Na'vi:
Also, this image appears to be a slightly higher res/better look at the teaser poster Na'vi:
TitaniumGroceries
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I hope the trailer is just footage of James Cameron talking about why we should be excited.
Scullibundo said:TAJ, just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.
Also, this image appears to be a slightly higher res/better look at the teaser poster Na'vi:
That definitely looks like Zoe Saldaña.
BTW WHERE ARE MY LEAKS!? Don't tell me the nerdcore has failed at producing a bootleg recording of the presentation. :/
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
That's twice you've responded to me, and you still haven't made an argument.Scullibundo said:
And Jurassic Park as we know it only happened because of Mark Dippe, Stephen Fangmeier, Steve Williams, and TyRuben Ellingson.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
The people he hand-picked to do medium and wide shots of the dinosaurs weren't the people who ended up doing them. (well, a few were hired on... like Phil Tippett and Randy Dutra, but still) The breakthroughs only happened because of after-hours tinkering by the four people I mentioned in my last post.Zeliard said:
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HOLY SHIT this is some amateur writing. Is this Pokemon the movie? Dragon Ball maybe? Digimon? I would expect no less from reading this.
SCULLIBUNDO
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FFS Ether, will you get rid of that spoiler shit. The OP specifically says no spoilers and I at least know duckroll feels the same way I do about spoilers in non-spoiler threads.
Also here is Sigourney and some of the cast talking about the film:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV9n...rketsaw.blogspot.com/&feature=player_embedded
I skipped most of it since they talk about the story, but very cool to see Zoe Zaldana can talk Na'vi.
Also here is Sigourney and some of the cast talking about the film:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV9n...rketsaw.blogspot.com/&feature=player_embedded
I skipped most of it since they talk about the story, but very cool to see Zoe Zaldana can talk Na'vi.
TAJ said:
Two of the biggest reasons that Jurassic Park holds up today as well as it does is due to Stan Winston (and his crew) and Phil Tippett (who's work on the film was a huge influence on Winston's puppets), both hired by Spielberg.
The "after-hours tinkering" was the not breakthrough. The ultimate conception was - the idea to use a mix of puppets/animatronics/CGI. Stan Winston's puppetry and makeup was the single biggest factor in Jurassic Park's production, followed by Tippett's dino choreography. The CGI helped to clean up any messes and inconsistencies, and was mainly tasked with keeping a continuity going between the computer-generated stuff and the live-action. The biggest reason Jurassic Park holds up as well as it does is due to the limited CGI.
You're giving CGI supervisors and art directors more credit than the guys who created the actual dinosaurs.
SCULLIBUNDO
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aeriform said:Some quick choppin
Will you guys quit it with the lame shops. Faces aren't perfectly symmetrical and it makes the star constellations overlayed on the teaser poster look retarded.
SCULLIBUNDO
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aeriform said:
No malice intended. Just been tonnes of those in the other AVATAR thread and they all look terrible.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
That mix was old as hell before Jurassic Park. Just replace CGI with stop motion/go motion. People actually leaned on animatronics much more before Jurassic Park, simply because the alternative was so cheesy. The kitchen scene is a perfect example of something that would have sucked without CG. If anything, Jurassic Park could have used more CG. The cuts to animatronics are jarring for me because the way they move (mostly secondary animation) is so much less lifelike.Zeliard said:
Sort of off-topic, but CG and digital compositing breathed new life into model photography. Shots that would have been laughable before work now because of the ability to blend multiple lighting passes afforded by digital compositing and CG effects animation selling the scale. (properly scaled water, smoke, etc.)
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TAJ said:
The CGI raptors in Jurassic Park have less than "lifelike" movement. It's better than some of the jarring animatronics, but as with a lot of CGI, the movement seems far too precise.
Again, I urge some of you to rewatch Jurassic Park in HD if you have access to Cinemax On Demand. One CGI shot that really bothered me during my viewing was the one where the raptors first enter the kitchen, and one snaps at the other, eliciting a hissing retaliation. Something looks really, really off with the shot, and I think it's the movement of the second raptor that hisses.
Same goes for the brachiosaurus scene near the beginning of the film. It has not aged well. Hell, there are even compositing issues with the T-Rex as it begins to chase Jeff Goldblum towards the standalone bathroom where the lawyer is hiding.
I think Starship Troopers has fared much better in terms of aging gracefully.
TAJ said:
Just replace CGI with something entirely different, and it's the same. I understand.
Dennis Muren and Phil Tippett were the main ones responsible for how the dinosaurs moved (the animation and choreography), with Stan and his team being the main ones responsible for how the dinosaurs looked (the puppets/animatronics). The CGI smoothed out the rough edges (including some of the animation) and gave everything a sense of cohesiveness, but it was considerably limited in comparison to modern films. You didn't give those three aforementioned guys any real credit.
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PhoenixDark
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Can't wait for Chiggs to start arguing about how pedestrian Avatar looks in the year 2026, assuming GAF is still around.
Chiggs
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PhoenixDark said:
:lol
I respect the heck out of what Jurassic Park did for its time, but I'm not going to let nostalgia cloud judgment. The very best CGI shot in Jurassic Park is the one taken from inside the jeep as the T-Rex passes in front of the headlights. Fan-fucking-tastic.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Again, I'm not talking about gross body movements. (though I think those look more convincing on average in the CG shots) I mean things like more individual toe/finger movement, fat jiggle/ripple, muscle flexure. I miss the little details in the Stan Winston shots.Chiggs said:
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Q&A segment of Avatar panel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrXA...blogspot.com/&feature=player_embedded#t=4m15s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrXA...blogspot.com/&feature=player_embedded#t=4m15s
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